Re: [Kicad-developers] Autosave BS

2017-01-24 Thread Oliver Walters
I have personally had multiple occasions where a KiCad application crash has corrupted the save file AND the autosave. Perhaps the above user was unwise but that doesn't justify not fixing this problem. My experience - whilst saving regularly: Editing a track on a largish board, KiCad crashes to

Re: [Kicad-developers] Autosave BS

2017-01-24 Thread Chris Pavlina
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 03:15:33PM -0500, Mark Roszko wrote: > To throw it out there. > > To me a proper UI should not immediately popup but rather an very big > banner of some sort saving "FILES AVAILABLE TO BE RECOVERED" above the > workspace. Clicking on the banner opens the recovery window.

Re: [Kicad-developers] Autosave BS

2017-01-24 Thread Mark Roszko
To throw it out there. To me a proper UI should not immediately popup but rather an very big banner of some sort saving "FILES AVAILABLE TO BE RECOVERED" above the workspace. Clicking on the banner opens the recovery window. It doesn't have to be an banner, just something obvious and distinct.

Re: [Kicad-developers] Autosave BS

2017-01-24 Thread Chris Pavlina
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 09:09:45AM -0700, Andy Peters wrote: > > > On Jan 23, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote: > > > > I'm talking to someone on IRC right now who lost two hours of routing > > because pcbnew crashed, then deleted his autosave file before he could

Re: [Kicad-developers] Autosave BS

2017-01-24 Thread Andy Peters
> On Jan 23, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote: > > I'm talking to someone on IRC right now who lost two hours of routing > because pcbnew crashed, then deleted his autosave file before he could > make use of it. What, he couldn’t type Ctrl-S (or Cmd-S on a Mac)

Re: [Kicad-developers] Autosave BS

2017-01-23 Thread Clemens Koller
Hello, Chris! Thank you for considering crashes + loss of data/autosaves as *very* *serious* issue! Crashes with data-loss and "no idea what I changed exactly since the last manual or autosave" happens to me in Mr P**S way too often and this is the *main* reason to migrate to KiCad being

Re: [Kicad-developers] Autosave BS

2017-01-23 Thread Nox
Some other program simply uses multiple autosaves. Although this is not the smartest solution it is relative effective and allow for some retracing the steps as well. Am 24.01.2017 um 00:26 schrieb Chris Pavlina: I'm talking to someone on IRC right now who lost two hours of routing because

Re: [Kicad-developers] Autosave BS

2017-01-23 Thread Simon Wells
It probably wouldn't be too bad, if each file was timestamped, and then deleted if/when kicad exits cleanly, therefore unless one has a very crashy kicad there should be very few autosaves and very few needed. If you exit kicad cleanly and then want the autosave well thats user fault. On 24

[Kicad-developers] Autosave BS

2017-01-23 Thread Chris Pavlina
I'm talking to someone on IRC right now who lost two hours of routing because pcbnew crashed, then deleted his autosave file before he could make use of it. We need to put some new efforts into: 1. Never delete autosave data. He may have accidentally saved the board before loading the autosave,