Re: [Kicad-developers] How to help users handle updating from version 4 to version 5 with regards to fp-lib-table handling?

2018-06-22 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 06/22/2018 09:19 AM, Carsten Schoenert wrote: > Am 22.06.2018 um 14:28 schrieb Wayne Stambaugh: >> This is not a trivial fix. Blindly copying the default global library >> tables every time they change would overwrite any user customization >> which is a not an option. It then becomes a merge

Re: [Kicad-developers] How to help users handle updating from version 4 to version 5 with regards to fp-lib-table handling?

2018-06-22 Thread Carsten Schoenert
Am 22.06.2018 um 14:28 schrieb Wayne Stambaugh: > This is not a trivial fix. Blindly copying the default global library > tables every time they change would overwrite any user customization > which is a not an option. It then becomes a merge operation which is > far more complex. I'm not

Re: [Kicad-developers] How to help users handle updating from version 4 to version 5 with regards to fp-lib-table handling?

2018-06-22 Thread Adam Wolf
Wayne, I can pull the text into the DMG or else link to it--Seth's idea of putting some text in the background to tell users who are upgrading to actually read the README will remove any guilt I have about excited users just assuming they know what to do and skipping any docs. Rather than a "we

Re: [Kicad-developers] How to help users handle updating from version 4 to version 5 with regards to fp-lib-table handling?

2018-06-22 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 06/22/2018 01:05 AM, Carsten Schoenert wrote: > Hi, > > Am 22.06.2018 um 04:52 schrieb Adam Wolf: > ... >> Is there any way we can detect if the fp-lib-table is out of sync and >> tell a user at run time? > > I'm too seeing this point not only related to the update now from V4 to > V5 and

Re: [Kicad-developers] How to help users handle updating from version 4 to version 5 with regards to fp-lib-table handling?

2018-06-22 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
I plan on pushing the preliminary v4 to v5 guide to my personal repo today for review. Hopefully, I can get enough comments and feedback by the end of the weekend to finalize and merge it into the master kicad documentation repo by Monday at the latest. How hard would it be to provide a link to

Re: [Kicad-developers] How to help users handle updating from version 4 to version 5 with regards to fp-lib-table handling?

2018-06-21 Thread Carsten Schoenert
Hi, Am 22.06.2018 um 04:52 schrieb Adam Wolf: ... > Is there any way we can detect if the fp-lib-table is out of sync and > tell a user at run time? I'm too seeing this point not only related to the update now from V4 to V5 and this is completely unrelated to the OS the user is running on at

Re: [Kicad-developers] How to help users handle updating from version 4 to version 5 with regards to fp-lib-table handling?

2018-06-21 Thread Adam Wolf
I suppose the actual text of what to do maybe something in the V4->V5 page that's being drafted. If not, we should draft something up on the list here. Adam On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 10:48 PM Adam Wolf wrote: > > Sure. I can even have just a message saying "If you are upgrading > KiCad, please

Re: [Kicad-developers] How to help users handle updating from version 4 to version 5 with regards to fp-lib-table handling?

2018-06-21 Thread Adam Wolf
Sure. I can even have just a message saying "If you are upgrading KiCad, please read the README" with a little arrow to the README file. Next--what do I instruct our users to do? Adam On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 10:45 PM Seth Hillbrand wrote: > > Adam, I've often seen applications use the

Re: [Kicad-developers] How to help users handle updating from version 4 to version 5 with regards to fp-lib-table handling?

2018-06-21 Thread Seth Hillbrand
Adam, I've often seen applications use the background image of the DMG to convey important information that they want the user to see during installation. ​ -S​ Am Do., 21. Juni 2018 um 19:52 Uhr schrieb Adam Wolf < adamw...@feelslikeburning.com>: > I am pretty concerned about this. There is

Re: [Kicad-developers] How to help users handle updating from version 4 to version 5 with regards to fp-lib-table handling?

2018-06-21 Thread Adam Wolf
Jean-Paul, I think this is a perfect example :) I said there is already a README in the DMG, but I do not believe many people actually read it. :) Adam On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 10:20 PM Jean-Paul Louis wrote: > > Adam, > It should be easy to add a README file in the dmg package. I have seen

Re: [Kicad-developers] How to help users handle updating from version 4 to version 5 with regards to fp-lib-table handling?

2018-06-21 Thread Jean-Paul Louis
Adam, It should be easy to add a README file in the dmg package. I have seen quite a few apps that have a README file you can open before moving the main app to the Applications folder. Just my $0.02, Jean-Paul N1JPL > On Jun 21, 2018, at 10:52 PM, Adam Wolf wrote: > > I am pretty concerned

Re: [Kicad-developers] How to help users handle updating from version 4 to version 5 with regards to fp-lib-table handling?

2018-06-21 Thread Adam Wolf
I am pretty concerned about this. There is no place in the macOS package to put instructions that users will read. (There is a README but I do not believe many people open it.) Is there any way we can detect if the fp-lib-table is out of sync and tell a user at run time? Adam On Wed, Jun 20,

[Kicad-developers] How to help users handle updating from version 4 to version 5 with regards to fp-lib-table handling?

2018-06-20 Thread Rene Pöschl
Hello, I know we are in feature freeze. It seems a lot of people struggle with the transition from kicad 4 to kicad 5. One of the things that could help a lot would be some way of forcing a reset of the user config directory contents to the default. (cold also help later on if for some