Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-16 Thread lajos kamocsay
Hi Wayne- I deleted the build directory, compiled from scratch and now the issue is gone. So it must have been a cmake cache problem as you suspected. Lesson learned ;) Thanks Lajos On Apr 15, 2012 11:21 AM, Wayne Stambaugh stambau...@verizon.net wrote: On 4/15/2012 11:08 AM, lajos kamocsay

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-16 Thread Brian Sidebotham
On 16 April 2012 18:06, lajos kamocsay panka.nos...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Wayne- I deleted the build directory, compiled from scratch and now the issue is gone. So it must have been a cmake cache problem as you suspected. Lesson learned ;) Thanks Lajos Sorry, I'm coming to the party

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-16 Thread lajos kamocsay
Thanks for the tip Brian, I'll try that next time. On Apr 16, 2012 1:36 PM, Brian Sidebotham brian.sidebot...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 April 2012 18:06, lajos kamocsay panka.nos...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Wayne- I deleted the build directory, compiled from scratch and now the issue is gone. So

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-15 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 4/14/2012 11:18 PM, lajos kamocsay wrote: Hi- When I build revno 3511, the tracks that I draw in pcbnew are huge (wider than the default page) (screenshot attached). I use these flags for cmake: cmake ../kicad.latest -DKICAD_STABLE_VERSION=ON -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release \

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-13 Thread Solonen Vesa
Like so many suggestions, they are often good ideas that never get done, because they do not rise to a sufficient level of need within an individual capable of doing the work. This is especially true in free software, which in fact is never free. Feature bounties might be a workable

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-13 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 04/13/2012 02:04 AM, jean-pierre charras wrote: Le 12/04/2012 20:53, Wayne Stambaugh a écrit : On 4/12/2012 9:05 AM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: On 04/11/2012 06:41 PM, Dan Chianucci wrote: This new format looks great, I have a few comments/questions 1) in some spots like module pads

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-13 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 04/13/2012 02:32 AM, Solonen Vesa wrote: Like so many suggestions, they are often good ideas that never get done, because they do not rise to a sufficient level of need within an individual capable of doing the work. This is especially true in free software, which in fact is never free.

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-13 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
This is one of those areas where I am relying on the knowledge of someone who know about the BOARD_ITEM internals that I do. If there is ^ knows more^ than I really need to get away from my computer :) Wayne That will only make you worse at typing.

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-13 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 4/13/2012 8:39 AM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: On 04/13/2012 02:04 AM, jean-pierre charras wrote: Le 12/04/2012 20:53, Wayne Stambaugh a écrit : On 4/12/2012 9:05 AM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: On 04/11/2012 06:41 PM, Dan Chianucci wrote: This new format looks great, I have a few comments/questions

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-13 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 04/13/2012 10:18 AM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: On 4/13/2012 8:39 AM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: On 04/13/2012 02:04 AM, jean-pierre charras wrote: Le 12/04/2012 20:53, Wayne Stambaugh a écrit : On 4/12/2012 9:05 AM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: On 04/11/2012 06:41 PM, Dan Chianucci wrote: This new

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-12 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 04/11/2012 06:41 PM, Dan Chianucci wrote: This new format looks great, I have a few comments/questions 1) in some spots like module pads there is (net nutNum netName) and in other spots like track segments it only has (net netNum). 2)What do the edge tags represent in the

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-12 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 04/11/2012 07:14 AM, Solonen Vesa wrote: Some salt on the popcorn? Regarding net classes handling... Flexible automatic design rules would need differential net classes that means different rules for a net depending on surrounding nets. As an example I'll explain the problem of a

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-12 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 4/12/2012 9:05 AM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: On 04/11/2012 06:41 PM, Dan Chianucci wrote: This new format looks great, I have a few comments/questions 1) in some spots like module pads there is (net nutNum netName) and in other spots like track segments it only has (net netNum).

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-12 Thread Cirilo Bernardo
- Original Message - From: Wayne Stambaugh stambau...@verizon.net To: kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Cc: Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 4:53 AM Subject: Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format. [snip]       4) What are the two (at) tags in module_text for? why not only 1

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-12 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 04/12/2012 01:53 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: On 4/12/2012 9:05 AM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: On 04/11/2012 06:41 PM, Dan Chianucci wrote: This new format looks great, I have a few comments/questions 1) in some spots like module pads there is (net nutNum netName) and in other spots like

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-12 Thread Dan Chianucci
class EDGE_MODULE is derived from DRAWSEGMENT and comes in types S_SEGMENT, S_CIRCLE, S_ARC, S_POLYGON. So it is basically a graphical line, circle, arc, or polygon. Basically a graphic, so that word is one candidate.  It is not confined to the module's edge, but is often used to

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-12 Thread Cirilo Bernardo
- Original Message - From: Dan Chianucci trump211...@gmail.com To: Dick Hollenbeck d...@softplc.com Cc: kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format. [snip] To Cirilo: I agree with what you are saying

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-11 Thread Brian Sidebotham
Sorry for top-posting! Just wanted to say well done Wayne! Again, excellent work that is so beneficial to the project! And don't think your UI changes have gone unnoticed, KiCad is a lot more together since you started work on the UI tidy up. Thanks for your continued efforts! :D Best Regards,

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-11 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 04/09/2012 03:52 PM, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo wrote: I love the plan, it matches and extends the tiny idea I had but it's well planned!!, About the SWEET_HTTP_LIB source and even SWEET servers, and web apps, I propose that we could use our (future) new python powers, that are

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-11 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 4/11/2012 4:02 AM, Brian Sidebotham wrote: Sorry for top-posting! Just wanted to say well done Wayne! Again, excellent work that is so beneficial to the project! And don't think your UI changes have gone unnoticed, KiCad is a lot more together since you started work on the UI tidy up.

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-09 Thread hauptmech
Human readability/usability/ease of learning would also be helped with some standardization. On 8/04/2012 8:23 p.m., Dick Hollenbeck wrote: On 04/08/2012 11:38 AM, lajos kamocsay wrote: Hi Wayne- The new file format looks awesome. Very simple and readable. Would it be possible to

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-09 Thread jean-pierre charras
On 8/04/2012 8:23 p.m., Dick Hollenbeck wrote: On 04/08/2012 11:38 AM, lajos kamocsay wrote: Hi Wayne- The new file format looks awesome. Very simple and readable. Would it be possible to standardize the transformation data? Currently there seems to be a couple different formats, some

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-09 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 4/9/2012 6:28 AM, jean-pierre charras wrote: On 8/04/2012 8:23 p.m., Dick Hollenbeck wrote: On 04/08/2012 11:38 AM, lajos kamocsay wrote: Hi Wayne- The new file format looks awesome. Very simple and readable. Would it be possible to standardize the transformation data? Currently there

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-09 Thread lajos kamocsay
Hi Wayne- I've had a conversation with Dick, and he asked me to clarify my suggestion about standardizing the transformation data. Standardizing would save you work and debugging time because you would only need to write the encoder and decoder (parser) once. Instead of every object taking care

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-09 Thread jean-pierre charras
Le 09/04/2012 17:02, Wayne Stambaugh a écrit : On 4/9/2012 6:28 AM, jean-pierre charras wrote: On 8/04/2012 8:23 p.m., Dick Hollenbeck wrote: On 04/08/2012 11:38 AM, lajos kamocsay wrote: Hi Wayne- The new file format looks awesome. Very simple and readable. Would it be possible to

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-09 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 04/09/2012 10:07 AM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: On 4/9/2012 9:43 AM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: Wayne and all, I feel better now about PCBNEW loading a BOARD with USE_PCBNEW_NANOMETRES defined after some work I did this weekend. Dick, Great work! Thanks for fixing this so we can keep the

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-09 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
Now that may be we're still in time (well in fact, now I think that could be added lately without big impact..) What do you think about adding a UUID (I see now that you used 'LPID' for SWEET) to the PCB files, and also a revision number (that goes incrementally on every modified save).

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-09 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 04/09/2012 02:55 PM, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo wrote: Now that may be we're still in time (well in fact, now I think that could be added lately without big impact..) What do you think about adding a UUID (I see now that you used 'LPID' for SWEET) to the PCB files, and also a

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-09 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
I love the plan, it matches and extends the tiny idea I had but it's well planned!!, About the SWEET_HTTP_LIB source and even SWEET servers, and web apps, I propose that we could use our (future) new python powers, that are proficient in handling XML-RPC, Databases, and similar things with very

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-08 Thread lajos kamocsay
Hi Wayne- The new file format looks awesome. Very simple and readable. Would it be possible to standardize the transformation data? Currently there seems to be a couple different formats, some examples: (draw line (pts xy(76.581 47.9425) xy(77.724 47.9425)) (layer 21) (width 0.127)) (size

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-08 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 04/08/2012 11:38 AM, lajos kamocsay wrote: Hi Wayne- The new file format looks awesome. Very simple and readable. Would it be possible to standardize the transformation data? Currently there seems to be a couple different formats, some examples: (draw line (pts xy(76.581 47.9425)

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-08 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
I must be doing something very silly just pulled from bzr, and then mkdir building cd building cmake -i ../ make and make says nothing at all, and exists :-? I must re-read the compiling guide ':-) 2012/4/8 Dick Hollenbeck d...@softplc.com On 04/08/2012 11:38 AM,

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-08 Thread lajos kamocsay
Hi Miguel- You probably figured it out already, but here's my super simple build script for the latest. Assuming you already have the bzr branch in this structure: 42 |- build_latest# build script, chmod a+x |- kicad.latest# as it says |- build.latest # this folder the script makes

[Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-07 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
It took long than I anticipated (doesn't always?) but I just committed the code to allow saving board files to the new s-expression based file format. I would like as many folks as possible to save their favorite board file using File-Save As to the new format and take a look at the result. My

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-07 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
Oops! To be able to save to the new file format you must add -DUSE_PCBNEW_SEXPR_FILE_FORMAT=ON and -DUSE_PCBNEW_NANOMETRES=ON when invoking CMake in order to build the new code. On 4/7/2012 2:09 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: It took long than I anticipated (doesn't always?) but I just committed