Re: [Kicad-developers] eeschema Save

2018-01-14 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
Looks good to me. On 01/14/2018 08:04 AM, Jeff Young wrote: > Concrete proposal based on the discussion so far.   > > Note that I used the existing generic save icon not as a vote for it, > but because the look of the generic save icon is really a separate > issue.  (FWIW, I'd prefer a floppy

Re: [Kicad-developers] eeschema Save

2018-01-14 Thread Jörg Hermann
Gentlemen, from my point of view a save is a save, in whatever application I am in. In pcb I save a pcb, and in eeschema I save a schema. There is no need for different save icons in individual applications. It adds complexity and workload for developers without any benefit for users. In

Re: [Kicad-developers] eeschema Save

2018-01-13 Thread Jeff Young
> There is a "Save Current Sheet" in the File menu. Ha! I hadn’t even noticed that. So we do actually support both operations. > I'm fine with dropping "Project" from the tooltip. Maybe "Save all > schematic sheets" would be a better tooltip. Sure, as long as we change the File menu entry

Re: [Kicad-developers] eeschema Save

2018-01-13 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
I don't think you are giving our users much credit. I could be wrong but I would think most user understand that the schematic is not just the current sheet. There is a "Save Current Sheet" in the File menu. I'm fine with dropping "Project" from the tooltip. Maybe "Save all schematic sheets"

Re: [Kicad-developers] eeschema Save

2018-01-13 Thread Jeff Young
But without a tooltip, how is anyone to know that? The window shows only a single sheet at a time. One might be forgiven for concluding that the save button will only save the current one. (Or even worrying that it might, and cycling through all the sheets hitting Save.) Having a

Re: [Kicad-developers] eeschema Save

2018-01-13 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
Just because a schematic has more than one sheet (file), complex or otherwise does not mean we have a different save context. You are still saving the current schematic no matter how may files are involved. Please do *not* do this. On 01/13/2018 03:06 PM, Andrey Kuznetsov wrote: > You already

Re: [Kicad-developers] eeschema Save

2018-01-13 Thread Andrey Kuznetsov
You already said the save will save everything, now you want to introduce differentiating icons/tooltips that will add complexity to the most simple tasks that will already do the implied function without the need for clarifying what is sheet and what is hierarchy. No changing tooltips based on

Re: [Kicad-developers] eeschema Save

2018-01-13 Thread Jeff Young
Yeah, I was trying not to let feature creep in. But yes, I would be happier with a floppy disk icon than an arrow pointing to a hard-disk (for wherever we use it). I think Andrey has pulled me around to (a') followed by (a), although I still prefer a context-sensitive tooltip (iii). > On 13

Re: [Kicad-developers] eeschema Save

2018-01-13 Thread Jeff Young
The function is always the same: save as many sheets as there are. The only question is how to communicate that to the user. Your reply sounds like a vote for (a)(ii), although you weren’t specific about the tooltip side of things. Cheers, Jeff. > On 13 Jan 2018, at 19:23, Andrey Kuznetsov

Re: [Kicad-developers] eeschema Save

2018-01-13 Thread Andrey Kuznetsov
What is the problem with saving ALL schematics in the project that have been edited, whether it's a 1 sheet or heirarchy sheet project? Are there times when you only want to save that sheet but not the other sheets? If yes, then maybe add 2 save buttons, save and save all, if not then just the

[Kicad-developers] eeschema Save

2018-01-13 Thread Jeff Young
The eeschema Save button’s tooltip reads “save schematic project” (emphasis mine). Because of that, it got the project-with-superimposed-disk in the recent icon update. I don’t think either of those is optimal. There are 3 distinct concepts: 1) Kicad projects (containing schematics, PCBs,

[Kicad-developers] EESchema save project file behavior.

2011-08-17 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
Does anyone know why the wxFileDialog is displayed every time the project (.pro) file is saved? None of the other files saved by EESchema exhibit this behavior. It seems to me that this should be transparent to the user. If the project file needs to be saved to a different file and/or folder,

Re: [Kicad-developers] EESchema save project file behavior.

2011-08-17 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 08/17/2011 01:37 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: Does anyone know why the wxFileDialog is displayed every time the project (.pro) file is saved? None of the other files saved by EESchema exhibit this behavior. It seems to me that this should be transparent to the user. If the project file

Re: [Kicad-developers] EESchema save project file behavior.

2011-08-17 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 8/17/2011 3:32 PM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: On 08/17/2011 01:37 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: Does anyone know why the wxFileDialog is displayed every time the project (.pro) file is saved? None of the other files saved by EESchema exhibit this behavior. It seems to me that this should be