Re: [Kicad-developers] DIALOG_ORIENT_FOOTPRINTS

2016-04-17 Thread Chris Pavlina
It's gone :) On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 08:25:48AM -0400, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > Since we have enough alternative methods for rotating a block of > footprints, I don't think removing this is going to be much of a burden > on anyone. > > On 4/13/2016 5:35 AM, Chris Pavlina wrote: > > Just rotate

Re: [Kicad-developers] DIALOG_ORIENT_FOOTPRINTS

2016-04-13 Thread Chris Pavlina
The response on the forum has also been an overwhelming "rip it out". On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 08:25:48AM -0400, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > Since we have enough alternative methods for rotating a block of > footprints, I don't think removing this is going to be much of a burden > on anyone. > > On

Re: [Kicad-developers] DIALOG_ORIENT_FOOTPRINTS

2016-04-13 Thread Nick Østergaard
You can achieve exactly this with the move exact and array tools. 2016-04-13 8:16 GMT+02:00 David Godfrey : > Hi Chris, > > A rotation of the selection is not the same as a rotation of the > individual components. > Consider you already have the components roughly in a grid, and

Re: [Kicad-developers] DIALOG_ORIENT_FOOTPRINTS

2016-04-13 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
Since we have enough alternative methods for rotating a block of footprints, I don't think removing this is going to be much of a burden on anyone. On 4/13/2016 5:35 AM, Chris Pavlina wrote: > Just rotate them first, then place. We don't need specific tools for > every conceivable permutation of

Re: [Kicad-developers] DIALOG_ORIENT_FOOTPRINTS

2016-04-13 Thread Chris Pavlina
Yup, this is the way to do it. A generic tool for doing all of these sort of batch edit ops, not a specific "orient all footprints" tool. On Apr 13, 2016 05:42, "Tomasz Wlostowski" wrote: > On 13.04.2016 11:35, Chris Pavlina wrote: > > Just rotate them first, then

Re: [Kicad-developers] DIALOG_ORIENT_FOOTPRINTS

2016-04-13 Thread Tomasz Wlostowski
On 13.04.2016 11:35, Chris Pavlina wrote: > Just rotate them first, then place. We don't need specific tools for > every conceivable permutation of movements. Unless even more people come > in saying they need this, or Wayne overrides me... I still don't think > this needs to stay. Hi Chris,

Re: [Kicad-developers] DIALOG_ORIENT_FOOTPRINTS

2016-04-13 Thread Chris Pavlina
Just rotate them first, then place. We don't need specific tools for every conceivable permutation of movements. Unless even more people come in saying they need this, or Wayne overrides me... I still don't think this needs to stay. On Apr 13, 2016 02:16, "David Godfrey" wrote:

Re: [Kicad-developers] DIALOG_ORIENT_FOOTPRINTS

2016-04-13 Thread jp charras
Le 13/04/2016 09:47, Clemens Koller a écrit : > Hello, There! > > I didn't use that functionality in KiCad, but in my other designtool I ran > into > the following case: > > - There is a finished design X. > > - The footprint library envolves over a year and lots of footprints > get migrated

Re: [Kicad-developers] DIALOG_ORIENT_FOOTPRINTS

2016-04-13 Thread Clemens Koller
Hello, There! I didn't use that functionality in KiCad, but in my other designtool I ran into the following case: - There is a finished design X. - The footprint library envolves over a year and lots of footprints get migrated in it's zero orientation from pin 1 is on lower left to pin 1 is on

Re: [Kicad-developers] DIALOG_ORIENT_FOOTPRINTS

2016-04-13 Thread jp charras
Le 13/04/2016 02:53, Chris Pavlina a écrit : > GAL already has this. Block or multi select, Ctrl-M for "move exactly" (or use > the context menu), and type an angle. Just rotates the whole selection, then > you can place your rotated resistors. > > Considering legacy is on its way out, I'd rather

Re: [Kicad-developers] DIALOG_ORIENT_FOOTPRINTS

2016-04-13 Thread David Godfrey
Hi Chris, A rotation of the selection is not the same as a rotation of the individual components. Consider you already have the components roughly in a grid, and you need to rotate them by 20 degrees. Rotating the selection means you have to do major repositioning of every component to get them

Re: [Kicad-developers] DIALOG_ORIENT_FOOTPRINTS

2016-04-12 Thread Chris Pavlina
GAL already has this. Block or multi select, Ctrl-M for "move exactly" (or use the context menu), and type an angle. Just rotates the whole selection, then you can place your rotated resistors. Considering legacy is on its way out, I'd rather not keep crusty old half-implemented legacy features

Re: [Kicad-developers] DIALOG_ORIENT_FOOTPRINTS

2016-04-12 Thread David Godfrey
Hmm, I'v not used it on Kicad but the ability to change the orientation of an arbitrary selection of footprints is something I've used many times in Altium. Ideally you want to be able to set an absolute orientation, and also a relative (to current) angle adjustment. This is especially useful

Re: [Kicad-developers] DIALOG_ORIENT_FOOTPRINTS

2016-04-12 Thread Simon Wells
autorouter code as well :) On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote: > Yes, this is soundly on my "burn for warmth instead of maintaining" list, but > I > think someone else may have stuck up for this one a while ago. > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:43:50AM

Re: [Kicad-developers] DIALOG_ORIENT_FOOTPRINTS

2016-04-12 Thread Chris Pavlina
Yes, this is soundly on my "burn for warmth instead of maintaining" list, but I think someone else may have stuck up for this one a while ago. On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:43:50AM +, Jon Neal wrote: > In the same vein, what about the autoplace functions? I tried them a couple > of times just to

Re: [Kicad-developers] DIALOG_ORIENT_FOOTPRINTS

2016-04-12 Thread Jon Neal
In the same vein, what about the autoplace functions? I tried them a couple of times just to see what they would do (really to see if it was worth it to port over to GAL) and yikes. It is way, way too simplistic to do anything useful and from the small amount I tested it has a handful of issues

Re: [Kicad-developers] DIALOG_ORIENT_FOOTPRINTS

2016-04-12 Thread Chris Pavlina
I just asked on forum.kicad.info. On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 07:05:03PM -0400, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > I've never used it. Anyone else find it a must have? You might want to > get some feedback from users to see if anyone would miss it. It should > be undoable though. > > On 4/12/2016 6:54 PM,

Re: [Kicad-developers] DIALOG_ORIENT_FOOTPRINTS

2016-04-12 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
I've never used it. Anyone else find it a must have? You might want to get some feedback from users to see if anyone would miss it. It should be undoable though. On 4/12/2016 6:54 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote: > It's not even undoable - so not only is it kinda useless, it's _broken_. > > Please?

Re: [Kicad-developers] DIALOG_ORIENT_FOOTPRINTS

2016-04-12 Thread Chris Pavlina
It's not even undoable - so not only is it kinda useless, it's _broken_. Please? It's so much nicer not to have to maintain this stuff. :D On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 06:40:07PM -0400, Chris Pavlina wrote: > I wonder how many of you are even aware of DIALOG_ORIENT_FOOTPRINTS. It's > hidden in the