[Kicad-developers] Donating serverspace + confluence + gliffy

2012-04-09 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
I just offer this here, not sure if it could be interesting (I think it could, as I see it as a productivity boost) In the last year I started using Confluence (+JIRA + gliffy) in my little-tiny company, and it was a real productivity boost (everything became ultra easy to document,

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-09 Thread hauptmech
Human readability/usability/ease of learning would also be helped with some standardization. On 8/04/2012 8:23 p.m., Dick Hollenbeck wrote: On 04/08/2012 11:38 AM, lajos kamocsay wrote: Hi Wayne- The new file format looks awesome. Very simple and readable. Would it be possible to

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-09 Thread jean-pierre charras
On 8/04/2012 8:23 p.m., Dick Hollenbeck wrote: On 04/08/2012 11:38 AM, lajos kamocsay wrote: Hi Wayne- The new file format looks awesome. Very simple and readable. Would it be possible to standardize the transformation data? Currently there seems to be a couple different formats, some

Re: [Kicad-developers] Broken kicad_plugin.cpp on auto_ptr.h (doesn't seem to be in the source tree)

2012-04-09 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 04/09/2012 08:27 AM, Jerry Jacobs wrote: I'm using the LLVM clang compiler on OS X (which has a gcc/g++ 4.2 style frontend), it seems that removing the auto_ptr.h fixed the problem and linked perfect. jerry@white:/Volumes/kicad/common$ make [ 60%] Built target common [ 60%] Building

Re: [Kicad-developers] file format feedback

2012-04-09 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
Some more feedback: (segment ...) IS on one line, so good there. Wonder if (segment) is our best keyword for what is a trace/track. specctra uses (wire). Could check EAGLE's new XML format, if we're lacking opinions, which would be atypical. Wonder of the flags in (segment (status HERE)

Re: [Kicad-developers] Hello, I want to help with you project

2012-04-09 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 4/9/2012 1:10 AM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: On 03/27/2012 12:55 PM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: On 03/27/2012 04:56 AM, Edwin van den Oetelaar wrote: Hello everyone, My name is Edwin, I have some motivation and skill to help with your project. Although I am not very old yet, I do have some deep

Re: [Kicad-developers] file format feedback

2012-04-09 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 04/09/2012 09:38 AM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: Some more feedback: (segment ...) IS on one line, so good there. Wonder if (segment) is our best keyword for what is a trace/track. specctra uses (wire). Could check EAGLE's new XML format, if we're lacking opinions, which would be

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-09 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 4/9/2012 6:28 AM, jean-pierre charras wrote: On 8/04/2012 8:23 p.m., Dick Hollenbeck wrote: On 04/08/2012 11:38 AM, lajos kamocsay wrote: Hi Wayne- The new file format looks awesome. Very simple and readable. Would it be possible to standardize the transformation data? Currently there

Re: [Kicad-developers] Donating serverspace + confluence + gliffy

2012-04-09 Thread David J S Briscoe
On 09/04/2012 07:13, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo wrote: I just offer this here, not sure if it could be interesting (I think it could, as I see it as a productivity boost) In the last year I started using Confluence (+JIRA + gliffy) in my little-tiny company, and it was a real

Re: [Kicad-developers] Fwd: file format feedback

2012-04-09 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 4/9/2012 9:50 AM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: Wayne, regarding: DRAWSEGMENT::Format(), it concerns me in two minor ways: case S_SEGMENT: // Line aFormatter-Print( 0, line (pts xy(%s) xy(%s)), FormatBIU( m_Start ).c_str(),

Re: [Kicad-developers] file format feedback

2012-04-09 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 4/9/2012 10:38 AM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: Some more feedback: (segment ...) IS on one line, so good there. Wonder if (segment) is our best keyword for what is a trace/track. specctra uses (wire). Could check EAGLE's new XML format, if we're lacking opinions, which would be

Re: [Kicad-developers] file format feedback

2012-04-09 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 4/9/2012 11:18 AM, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo wrote: They seem to be using wire for schematics: and wire for pcb too. They also enumerate the layers at start. Miguel, Thanks for the eagle files. A layer map at the top of the file is a good idea. Something like (layers (0

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-09 Thread lajos kamocsay
Hi Wayne- I've had a conversation with Dick, and he asked me to clarify my suggestion about standardizing the transformation data. Standardizing would save you work and debugging time because you would only need to write the encoder and decoder (parser) once. Instead of every object taking care

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-09 Thread jean-pierre charras
Le 09/04/2012 17:02, Wayne Stambaugh a écrit : On 4/9/2012 6:28 AM, jean-pierre charras wrote: On 8/04/2012 8:23 p.m., Dick Hollenbeck wrote: On 04/08/2012 11:38 AM, lajos kamocsay wrote: Hi Wayne- The new file format looks awesome. Very simple and readable. Would it be possible to

Re: [Kicad-developers] Fwd: file format feedback

2012-04-09 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 04/09/2012 10:37 AM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: On 4/9/2012 9:50 AM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: Wayne, regarding: DRAWSEGMENT::Format(), it concerns me in two minor ways: case S_SEGMENT: // Line aFormatter-Print( 0, line (pts xy(%s) xy(%s)), FormatBIU(

Re: [Kicad-developers] file format feedback

2012-04-09 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 04/09/2012 10:45 AM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: On 4/9/2012 10:38 AM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: Some more feedback: (segment ...) IS on one line, so good there. Wonder if (segment) is our best keyword for what is a trace/track. specctra uses (wire). Could check EAGLE's new XML format, if

Re: [Kicad-developers] Fwd: file format feedback

2012-04-09 Thread jean-pierre charras
Le 09/04/2012 17:37, Wayne Stambaugh a écrit : On 4/9/2012 9:50 AM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: Wayne, regarding: DRAWSEGMENT::Format(), it concerns me in two minor ways: case S_SEGMENT: // Line aFormatter-Print( 0, line (pts xy(%s) xy(%s)), FormatBIU(

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-09 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 04/09/2012 10:07 AM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: On 4/9/2012 9:43 AM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: Wayne and all, I feel better now about PCBNEW loading a BOARD with USE_PCBNEW_NANOMETRES defined after some work I did this weekend. Dick, Great work! Thanks for fixing this so we can keep the

Re: [Kicad-developers] Fwd: file format feedback

2012-04-09 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 04/09/2012 01:41 PM, jean-pierre charras wrote: Le 09/04/2012 17:37, Wayne Stambaugh a écrit : On 4/9/2012 9:50 AM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: Wayne, regarding: DRAWSEGMENT::Format(), it concerns me in two minor ways: case S_SEGMENT: // Line aFormatter-Print( 0, line (pts

Re: [Kicad-developers] Donating serverspace + confluence + gliffy

2012-04-09 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
Yes, Altium makes extensive use of Confluence. I think this is where I got the idea for using Confluence + JIRA + etc... for my company :-) in first place. I think it could save us a lot of time for design, manual maintenance, etc... and In the worst case (if we needed for just any reason a

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-09 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
Now that may be we're still in time (well in fact, now I think that could be added lately without big impact..) What do you think about adding a UUID (I see now that you used 'LPID' for SWEET) to the PCB files, and also a revision number (that goes incrementally on every modified save).

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-09 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 04/09/2012 02:55 PM, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo wrote: Now that may be we're still in time (well in fact, now I think that could be added lately without big impact..) What do you think about adding a UUID (I see now that you used 'LPID' for SWEET) to the PCB files, and also a

Re: [Kicad-developers] New Pcbnew file format.

2012-04-09 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
I love the plan, it matches and extends the tiny idea I had but it's well planned!!, About the SWEET_HTTP_LIB source and even SWEET servers, and web apps, I propose that we could use our (future) new python powers, that are proficient in handling XML-RPC, Databases, and similar things with very

Re: [Kicad-developers] file format feedback

2012-04-09 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 4/9/2012 2:37 PM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: On 04/09/2012 10:45 AM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: On 4/9/2012 10:38 AM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: Some more feedback: (segment ...) IS on one line, so good there. Wonder if (segment) is our best keyword for what is a trace/track. specctra uses

Re: [Kicad-developers] Fwd: file format feedback

2012-04-09 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 4/9/2012 2:41 PM, jean-pierre charras wrote: Le 09/04/2012 17:37, Wayne Stambaugh a écrit : On 4/9/2012 9:50 AM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: Wayne, regarding: DRAWSEGMENT::Format(), it concerns me in two minor ways: case S_SEGMENT: // Line aFormatter-Print( 0, line (pts

Re: [Kicad-developers] file format feedback

2012-04-09 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 4/9/2012 5:43 PM, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo wrote: Nice Wayne, Don't you think that also dumping the non-default layers would make sense?, just for sanity of the file format (making complete sense even without the version of kicad it belongs to). May be on future kicad version

[Kicad-developers] KiCad and 3D models

2012-04-09 Thread Cirilo Bernardo
A month or so ago (2 Mar 2012) Bob Cousins wrote about using FreeCAD to create 3D STEP models.  I've been looking into this issue for a few months now and here are some of my (still early) thoughts on the matter: 1.  Due to the complexity of any software implementing the STEP AP203/AP214