Re: [Kicad-developers] Discussion: Hidden Pins, Net labels

2016-02-06 Thread Thor-Arne
We’re not talking about forbidding hiding pins, as far as we’ve reached in this discussion we’re curently on giving a warning when setting a warning when a pin is set to hidden. And we are talking about the DRC giving to warn about multiple net names on one net. Nothing of this should make

Re: [Kicad-developers] Which wxFormBuilder?

2016-02-06 Thread Bernhard Stegmaier
Thanks, I’ll try to get Marks fork running on OS X for future use. Accidentally, I just got a hand on a windows laptop. The 3.5.1-rc1 really is usable on Windows… so much for being cross-plattform… :) At least for the files I need I could check and generate the code with it for now. Regards,

Re: [Kicad-developers] Which wxFormBuilder?

2016-02-06 Thread Bernhard Stegmaier
I could edit it without any problems with the 3.5.1-rc1 Windows version. So I guess the file is OK and it is some problem with at least the OS X version of 3.5.1-rc1. > On 06 Feb 2016, at 23:47, Chris Pavlina wrote: > > Blame Mark, I used his wxfb :) > > I'll have a

Re: [Kicad-developers] Which wxFormBuilder?

2016-02-06 Thread Simon Wells
Ok, not with that one i am tempted to blame chris as he is the one who has been messing with that file lately On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Bernhard Stegmaier wrote: > It does seem to work somehow in general, but not an all files. > Could you try on

Re: [Kicad-developers] Which wxFormBuilder?

2016-02-06 Thread Simon Wells
I have used the lastest osx binary from sf.net many times with no issues, The only thing i have found occasionally is i have to double click on the dialog in the left box to have it show up, but whether this is a bug or a "feature" i don't know On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Bernhard Stegmaier

Re: [Kicad-developers] Which wxFormBuilder?

2016-02-06 Thread Chris Pavlina
Blame Mark, I used his wxfb :) I'll have a look a bit later. I haven't done anything weird to that file. On Sun, Feb 07, 2016 at 11:44:03AM +1300, Simon Wells wrote: > Ok, not with that one i am tempted to blame chris as he is the one > who has been messing with that file lately > > On Sun,

Re: [Kicad-developers] Which wxFormBuilder?

2016-02-06 Thread Bernhard Stegmaier
It does seem to work somehow in general, but not an all files. Could you try on dialog_eeschema_options_base.fbp? This one doesn’t work at all for me. Regards, Bernhard > On 06 Feb 2016, at 22:55, Simon Wells wrote: > > I have used the lastest osx binary from sf.net many

Re: [Kicad-developers] [PATCH] No GAL FPS Limiting for OS X

2016-02-06 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
Any other OSX devs object to this being committed? Also, do we really need to throttle on the other platforms? If not, I would rather not have the ugly platform specific #ifdef/#endif code if we don't need it. On 2/6/2016 10:25 AM, Bernhard Stegmaier wrote: > Hi, > > attached a patch to

Re: [Kicad-developers] Discussion: Hidden Pins, Net labels

2016-02-06 Thread Thor-Arne
Then how is pcbnew supposed to know what's going to be connected? I have not been using hierarchies much, is the nets separated? -Original Message- From: jp charras Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 6:27 PM To: kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Kicad-developers]

Re: [Kicad-developers] Which wxFormBuilder?

2016-02-06 Thread Jon Neal
Mark Roszko forked wxFormBuilder to make building much easier and faster + has at least one new wxWidgets widget. https://github.com/marekr/wxFormBuilder/ On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 2:30 PM Garth Corral wrote: > Hi, Berhard. > > Yes this is a bit if a pain on OS X. I built this

Re: [Kicad-developers] Discussion: Hidden Pins, Net labels

2016-02-06 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
I would not have allowed that to be implemented. One thing I try to avoid is forcing users down the "one true way" path of pcb design whenever possible. I prefer to give users the flexibility to design as they see fit even if it means that kicad has a steeper learning curve. I don't pretend to

Re: [Kicad-developers] KiCad Twitter

2016-02-06 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, Am 04.02.2016 um 23:07 schrieb Chris Gammell: > I was wondering if I could help out with the @kicad_pcb twitter account. > I keep an eye on all things KiCad on Tweetdeck and noticed that the > official twitter is rather dormant. Speaking of social media: I've created a "KiCad" Facebook page

Re: [Kicad-developers] Which wxFormBuilder?

2016-02-06 Thread Chris Pavlina
+1 to this, this is the only one that's been working properly for me lately... On Sat, Feb 06, 2016 at 07:44:14PM +, Jon Neal wrote: > Mark Roszko forked wxFormBuilder to make building much easier and faster + > has at least one new wxWidgets widget. > >

[Kicad-developers] [PATCH] No GAL FPS Limiting for OS X

2016-02-06 Thread Bernhard Stegmaier
Hi,attached a patch to disable the below mentioned FPS limitation on OS X.Without limitation/timer scrolling is smooth as expected.Even with heaviest scrolling or other use-cases I tested I did not observe any increased CPU load.At least, from a user perspective possibly drawing too often seems

Re: [Kicad-developers] Discussion: Hidden Pins, Net labels

2016-02-06 Thread jp charras
Le 06/02/2016 18:12, Thor-Arne a écrit : > I think the multiple netnames on the same net should be included in the > roadmap v5 DRC check. > This should as a minimum throw a warning as this might break the > finished pcb. Multiple netnames on the same net are a frequent case when using

Re: [Kicad-developers] Discussion: Hidden Pins, Net labels

2016-02-06 Thread André S .
This may work when the output is directly connected to the net. But if you have some output/input filter behind it this will not work as expected, you still need the power flag then. André On 06.02.2016 18:29, Andrew Zonenberg wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I do the

Re: [Kicad-developers] Which wxFormBuilder?

2016-02-06 Thread Garth Corral
Hi, Berhard. Yes this is a bit if a pain on OS X. I built this from HEAD sometime last year, and it seemed to work okay for my purposes. I had to munge a few things to get it to build, though. I’ll send you a patch off-list and see if that gets you going in the right direction. It was some

Re: [Kicad-developers] Discussion: Hidden Pins, Net labels

2016-02-06 Thread André S .
Ok, I see your point regarding not breaking old designs. However: the current KiCad broke mine, since it does regard hidden pins different than "the old KiCad" (around 2013). The old KiCad connected a visible "hidden pin" only to the connected net. The current KiCad still connects it to "VDD"

Re: [Kicad-developers] Discussion: Hidden Pins, Net labels

2016-02-06 Thread Thor-Arne
I think the multiple netnames on the same net should be included in the roadmap v5 DRC check. This should as a minimum throw a warning as this might break the finished pcb. It might also affect the hidden pins issue as one might have several supply voltages connected to VCC pins. However,

Re: [Kicad-developers] Slow performance in pcbnew (PNS/GAL only) on high-fanout nets

2016-02-06 Thread André S .
On 03.02.2016 07:33, Jeff Barlow wrote: Actually I have intentionally located two footprints so they overlap. Only one or the other (not both) are stuffed on a given board. One board, two different BOMs, two different assembles. Very common trick. Not really a DRC error. There needs to be a

[Kicad-developers] Which wxFormBuilder?

2016-02-06 Thread Bernhard Stegmaier
Hi, I manually made some changes to preferences dialogs which are working fine. To finish this, I wanted to check that I didn’t break the .fbp files and generate code from that (as it probably is supposed to be). But, which wxFormBuilder to use? Last official is 3.1.70, it doesn’t open at

Re: [Kicad-developers] Discussion: Hidden Pins, Net labels

2016-02-06 Thread Andrew Zonenberg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This sounds like the best option to me - keep the feature around but throw a DRC error if you try to use it. This keeps old designs working (albeit with warnings) and discourages use of hidden connections in new designs. Eventually, if the project

Re: [Kicad-developers] Discussion: Hidden Pins, Net labels

2016-02-06 Thread Andrew Zonenberg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I do the same thing - power flags and hidden pins are banned in my designs. To supply power to a net I set the "power output" flag on the pins of the connector going to the battery/power plug. On 06/02/16 09:23, André S. wrote: > Ok, I see your point

Re: [Kicad-developers] Discussion: Hidden Pins, Net labels

2016-02-06 Thread Jeff Barlow
I agree with Andrew's approach. Power flags are just a hack to suppress a valid error message. If there's a power flag on a net ERC will still be happy even after you accidentally delete the component that actually supplies the power. On 02/06/2016 06:14 PM, Andrew Zonenberg wrote: It still

Re: [Kicad-developers] Discussion: Hidden Pins, Net labels

2016-02-06 Thread André S .
The approach with "power" components sounds like a really good way to handle this (I think that should be put into the documentation as a tip). I always felt power flags a hack, thanks for the confirmation. ;) In a design there are not so many places where you provide power and there are not so

Re: [Kicad-developers] Discussion: Hidden Pins, Net labels

2016-02-06 Thread Chris Pavlina
Eh. I agree 100% about hidden pins being Bad, anyone using them surely should be tarred and feathered. But I'm not sure it's our place to enforce good schematic drawing practices. If people want to use KiCad to draw terrible, horrible schematics, they'll find a way. Personally, I'm *strongly*

Re: [Kicad-developers] Discussion: Hidden Pins, Net labels

2016-02-06 Thread Thor-Arne
I agree with Chris on the hidden pins issue, old design should not be broken. When it comes to net names I think they should be forced to be unique. Anyway, are we going to collect features requests now? Would it be better to have a wanted-feauture list on github instead of the mail list so