Re: [Kicad-developers] Routing algorithm used in PCB

[Simon Küppers]

Sorry, but i seriously doubt that there is anyone in this community that agrees 
with your cloud-hype. 
Tell me someone who does serious work with Google docs or codenvy.. Dont get me 
wrong, it is nice for community based stuff, such as teaching, learning, etc.. 
But kicad (ultimately) wants to be a serious commercial grade software that is 
not based on cloud technology. 
Anyone can See what Import The cloud-hype  in this market segment hast, when 
looking at circuitmaker or EAGLE since it was bought by autodesk.. 
Professionals are turning their back due to the weaknesses in cloud technology. 

Am 28. August 2017 20:47:24 MESZ schrieb Arun Kumar :
>At least the non-resource intensive tasks like creating schematics,
>symbols
>and foot prints etc can be pushed on to the web.
>
>Resource intensive tasks can be done by a server side code (c++ or
>python
>code which you already developed can be used at the server side).
>
>Google is able to run services like sheets, docs and other resource
>intensive services on the cloud. Everything will eventually move to the
>cloud. It's better that we start a web based as early as possible.
>
>Today even the development environment like IDEs, SDK, workspaces have
>moved to cloud (example https://www.codenvy.com/)
>
>On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:26 PM, Bastian Neumannn <
>neumann.bast...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> KiCad does come with a python interface.
>> Moving to python as native system and other web technologies are not
>a
>> good idea imho.
>>
>> Not every software is better with web and cloud stuff.
>>
>> 2017-08-28 18:04 GMT+02:00 Arun Kumar :
>>
>>> Documentation of code or the usage of Kicad? I see that there is
>already
>>> documentation on the user guide.
>>>
>>> Would be happy if Kicad transitions to python or other web
>technologies.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 8:56 PM, Fabrizio Tappero <
>>> fabrizio.tapp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Arun,
 if yu like you can contribute with the documentation.

 Regards
 Fabrizio


 On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Arun Kumar
>
 wrote:

> I don't know C++ so unable  to contribute and I want to build my
>own
> FOSS app with the languages I know. I always wanted to contribute
>to an
> existing project there  isn't a proper documentation about the
>source code.
> Have to go through hundreds and thousands of lines of code to
>understand
> where they have implemented a specific functionality.
>
> I browsed the folders of the source code of Kicad but unable to
> understand what routing techniques are used and the code
>associated with
> it. I  found  a folder with name algorithm but couldn't understand
>how
> they're working with the parts.
>
> Thanks,
> Arun
>
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:04 PM, José Ignacio
>
> wrote:
>
>> You already established that you want to extract techniques from
>kicad
>> for your own project instead of contributing. The code is all
>there in the
>> repo, free to use under the GPL.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:41 AM, Arun Kumar
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Team,
>>>
>>> Which PCB routing algorithm are used in PCB designing in Kicad?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Arun
>>>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Routing algorithm used in PCB

[Adam Wolf]

Hi Arun,

I helped OSHPark render KiCad PCBs to gerbers "in the cloud" so people
can upload KiCad PCB files and order them. Through the existing
scripting framework, you can put parts of KiCad in the cloud, but
there has been a massive amount of work in getting the UI stuff
working with wx, and I am skeptical we will see a non-wx KiCad anytime
soon.

You may be more interested in something like PCBmodE, which uses svg
and other technologies you may find more to your liking.

Adam Wolf

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 1:47 PM, Arun Kumar  wrote:
>
> At least the non-resource intensive tasks like creating schematics, symbols
> and foot prints etc can be pushed on to the web.
>
> Resource intensive tasks can be done by a server side code (c++ or python
> code which you already developed can be used at the server side).
>
> Google is able to run services like sheets, docs and other resource
> intensive services on the cloud. Everything will eventually move to the
> cloud. It's better that we start a web based as early as possible.
>
> Today even the development environment like IDEs, SDK, workspaces have moved
> to cloud (example https://www.codenvy.com/)
>
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:26 PM, Bastian Neumannn
>  wrote:
>>
>> KiCad does come with a python interface.
>> Moving to python as native system and other web technologies are not a
>> good idea imho.
>>
>> Not every software is better with web and cloud stuff.
>>
>> 2017-08-28 18:04 GMT+02:00 Arun Kumar :
>>>
>>> Documentation of code or the usage of Kicad? I see that there is already
>>> documentation on the user guide.
>>>
>>> Would be happy if Kicad transitions to python or other web technologies.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 8:56 PM, Fabrizio Tappero
>>>  wrote:

 Hi Arun,
 if yu like you can contribute with the documentation.

 Regards
 Fabrizio


 On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Arun Kumar 
 wrote:
>
> I don't know C++ so unable  to contribute and I want to build my own
> FOSS app with the languages I know. I always wanted to contribute to an
> existing project there  isn't a proper documentation about the source 
> code.
> Have to go through hundreds and thousands of lines of code to understand
> where they have implemented a specific functionality.
>
> I browsed the folders of the source code of Kicad but unable to
> understand what routing techniques are used and the code associated with 
> it.
> I  found  a folder with name algorithm but couldn't understand how they're
> working with the parts.
>
> Thanks,
> Arun
>
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:04 PM, José Ignacio 
> wrote:
>>
>> You already established that you want to extract techniques from kicad
>> for your own project instead of contributing. The code is all there in 
>> the
>> repo, free to use under the GPL.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:41 AM, Arun Kumar 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Team,
>>>
>>> Which PCB routing algorithm are used in PCB designing in Kicad?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Arun
>>>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Routing algorithm used in PCB

[Arun Kumar]

At least the non-resource intensive tasks like creating schematics, symbols
and foot prints etc can be pushed on to the web.

Resource intensive tasks can be done by a server side code (c++ or python
code which you already developed can be used at the server side).

Google is able to run services like sheets, docs and other resource
intensive services on the cloud. Everything will eventually move to the
cloud. It's better that we start a web based as early as possible.

Today even the development environment like IDEs, SDK, workspaces have
moved to cloud (example https://www.codenvy.com/)

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:26 PM, Bastian Neumannn <
neumann.bast...@gmail.com> wrote:

> KiCad does come with a python interface.
> Moving to python as native system and other web technologies are not a
> good idea imho.
>
> Not every software is better with web and cloud stuff.
>
> 2017-08-28 18:04 GMT+02:00 Arun Kumar :
>
>> Documentation of code or the usage of Kicad? I see that there is already
>> documentation on the user guide.
>>
>> Would be happy if Kicad transitions to python or other web technologies.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 8:56 PM, Fabrizio Tappero <
>> fabrizio.tapp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Arun,
>>> if yu like you can contribute with the documentation.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Fabrizio
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Arun Kumar 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I don't know C++ so unable  to contribute and I want to build my own
 FOSS app with the languages I know. I always wanted to contribute to an
 existing project there  isn't a proper documentation about the source code.
 Have to go through hundreds and thousands of lines of code to understand
 where they have implemented a specific functionality.

 I browsed the folders of the source code of Kicad but unable to
 understand what routing techniques are used and the code associated with
 it. I  found  a folder with name algorithm but couldn't understand how
 they're working with the parts.

 Thanks,
 Arun

 On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:04 PM, José Ignacio 
 wrote:

> You already established that you want to extract techniques from kicad
> for your own project instead of contributing. The code is all there in the
> repo, free to use under the GPL.
>
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:41 AM, Arun Kumar 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Team,
>>
>> Which PCB routing algorithm are used in PCB designing in Kicad?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Arun
>>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Routing algorithm used in PCB

[Wayne Stambaugh]

On 8/28/2017 12:04 PM, Arun Kumar wrote:
> Documentation of code or the usage of Kicad? I see that there is already
> documentation on the user guide.

The source code documentation can be found here:
http://docs.kicad-pcb.org/doxygen/index.html

> 
> Would be happy if Kicad transitions to python or other web technologies. 

Most of the board editor functionality has been swigged out to a python
module.  I don't know if the push/shove router has been swigged or not.
If it hasn't maybe our P router expert can explain why not and what it
would take to get it swigged out.

> 
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 8:56 PM, Fabrizio Tappero
> > wrote:
> 
> Hi Arun,
> if yu like you can contribute with the documentation.
> 
> Regards
> Fabrizio
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Arun Kumar  > wrote:
> 
> I don't know C++ so unable  to contribute and I want to build my
> own FOSS app with the languages I know. I always wanted to
> contribute to an existing project there  isn't a proper
> documentation about the source code. Have to go through hundreds
> and thousands of lines of code to understand where they have
> implemented a specific functionality. 
>  
> I browsed the folders of the source code of Kicad but unable to
> understand what routing techniques are used and the code
> associated with it. I  found  a folder with name algorithm but
> couldn't understand how they're working with the parts.
> 
> Thanks,
> Arun
> 
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:04 PM, José Ignacio
> > wrote:
> 
> You already established that you want to extract techniques
> from kicad for your own project instead of contributing. The
> code is all there in the repo, free to use under the GPL.
> 
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:41 AM, Arun Kumar
> > wrote:
> 
> Hi Team,
> 
> Which PCB routing algorithm are used in PCB designing in
> Kicad?
> 
> Thanks
> Arun
> 
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Routing algorithm used in PCB

[Bastian Neumannn]

KiCad does come with a python interface.
Moving to python as native system and other web technologies are not a good
idea imho.

Not every software is better with web and cloud stuff.

2017-08-28 18:04 GMT+02:00 Arun Kumar :

> Documentation of code or the usage of Kicad? I see that there is already
> documentation on the user guide.
>
> Would be happy if Kicad transitions to python or other web technologies.
>
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 8:56 PM, Fabrizio Tappero <
> fabrizio.tapp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Arun,
>> if yu like you can contribute with the documentation.
>>
>> Regards
>> Fabrizio
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Arun Kumar 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know C++ so unable  to contribute and I want to build my own
>>> FOSS app with the languages I know. I always wanted to contribute to an
>>> existing project there  isn't a proper documentation about the source code.
>>> Have to go through hundreds and thousands of lines of code to understand
>>> where they have implemented a specific functionality.
>>>
>>> I browsed the folders of the source code of Kicad but unable to
>>> understand what routing techniques are used and the code associated with
>>> it. I  found  a folder with name algorithm but couldn't understand how
>>> they're working with the parts.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Arun
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:04 PM, José Ignacio 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 You already established that you want to extract techniques from kicad
 for your own project instead of contributing. The code is all there in the
 repo, free to use under the GPL.

 On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:41 AM, Arun Kumar 
 wrote:

> Hi Team,
>
> Which PCB routing algorithm are used in PCB designing in Kicad?
>
> Thanks
> Arun
>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Routing algorithm used in PCB

[Arun Kumar]

Documentation of code or the usage of Kicad? I see that there is already
documentation on the user guide.

Would be happy if Kicad transitions to python or other web technologies.

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 8:56 PM, Fabrizio Tappero <
fabrizio.tapp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Arun,
> if yu like you can contribute with the documentation.
>
> Regards
> Fabrizio
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Arun Kumar 
> wrote:
>
>> I don't know C++ so unable  to contribute and I want to build my own FOSS
>> app with the languages I know. I always wanted to contribute to an existing
>> project there  isn't a proper documentation about the source code. Have to
>> go through hundreds and thousands of lines of code to understand where they
>> have implemented a specific functionality.
>>
>> I browsed the folders of the source code of Kicad but unable to
>> understand what routing techniques are used and the code associated with
>> it. I  found  a folder with name algorithm but couldn't understand how
>> they're working with the parts.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Arun
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:04 PM, José Ignacio 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You already established that you want to extract techniques from kicad
>>> for your own project instead of contributing. The code is all there in the
>>> repo, free to use under the GPL.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:41 AM, Arun Kumar 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Team,

 Which PCB routing algorithm are used in PCB designing in Kicad?

 Thanks
 Arun

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Re: [Kicad-developers] Routing algorithm used in PCB

[Fabrizio Tappero]

Hi Arun,
if yu like you can contribute with the documentation.

Regards
Fabrizio


On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Arun Kumar  wrote:

> I don't know C++ so unable  to contribute and I want to build my own FOSS
> app with the languages I know. I always wanted to contribute to an existing
> project there  isn't a proper documentation about the source code. Have to
> go through hundreds and thousands of lines of code to understand where they
> have implemented a specific functionality.
>
> I browsed the folders of the source code of Kicad but unable to understand
> what routing techniques are used and the code associated with it. I  found
>  a folder with name algorithm but couldn't understand how they're working
> with the parts.
>
> Thanks,
> Arun
>
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:04 PM, José Ignacio 
> wrote:
>
>> You already established that you want to extract techniques from kicad
>> for your own project instead of contributing. The code is all there in the
>> repo, free to use under the GPL.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:41 AM, Arun Kumar 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Team,
>>>
>>> Which PCB routing algorithm are used in PCB designing in Kicad?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Arun
>>>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Routing algorithm used in PCB

[Arun Kumar]

I don't know C++ so unable  to contribute and I want to build my own FOSS
app with the languages I know. I always wanted to contribute to an existing
project there  isn't a proper documentation about the source code. Have to
go through hundreds and thousands of lines of code to understand where they
have implemented a specific functionality.

I browsed the folders of the source code of Kicad but unable to understand
what routing techniques are used and the code associated with it. I  found
 a folder with name algorithm but couldn't understand how they're working
with the parts.

Thanks,
Arun

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:04 PM, José Ignacio 
wrote:

> You already established that you want to extract techniques from kicad for
> your own project instead of contributing. The code is all there in the
> repo, free to use under the GPL.
>
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:41 AM, Arun Kumar 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Team,
>>
>> Which PCB routing algorithm are used in PCB designing in Kicad?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Arun
>>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Routing algorithm used in PCB

[José Ignacio]

You already established that you want to extract techniques from kicad for
your own project instead of contributing. The code is all there in the
repo, free to use under the GPL.

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:41 AM, Arun Kumar  wrote:

> Hi Team,
>
> Which PCB routing algorithm are used in PCB designing in Kicad?
>
> Thanks
> Arun
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[Kicad-developers] Routing algorithm used in PCB

[Arun Kumar]

Hi Team,

Which PCB routing algorithm are used in PCB designing in Kicad?

Thanks
Arun
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