[kicad-users] Re: Feature request: Hard metric

2009-07-09 Thread einazaki668
--- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Brian Sidebotham brian.sidebot...@... wrote: 2009/7/8 einazaki668 einazaki...@...: In the PCB tool (and module editor) I think it'd be a good idea to use hard metric when in metric mode, rather than the metrified english as it's now done. TIA,

[kicad-users] Re: Feature request: Hard metric

2009-07-09 Thread einazaki668
--- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, al davis a...@... wrote: On Thursday 09 July 2009, Robert wrote: America is the last country in the world where engineers prefer to use them. American engineers don't prefer traditional units. It's the non-engineers. When speaking of inches you have

[kicad-users] Re: Feature request: Hard metric

2009-07-09 Thread einazaki668
--- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, einazaki668 einazaki...@... wrote: In the PCB tool (and module editor) I think it'd be a good idea to use hard metric when in metric mode, rather than the metrified english as it's now done. TIA, eric Well, I am a dope. There is a hard metric grid

Re: [kicad-users] Re: Feature request: Hard metric

2009-07-09 Thread Robert
I would agree if it wasn't for the fact that everything else in the engineering world is specified in metric, and PCB's don't live in a bubble isolated from that metric world. Now that electronic components are (finally) going metric, having PCB software that doesn't work well in metric is

[kicad-users] Re: Feature request: Hard metric

2009-07-09 Thread Dan
Not true. I'm an American engineer, and I prefer English units for certain applications (and metric for others). 1) The proper name is English units. It has nothing to do with the present practices of England, the country; that's where they originated from, so that's what they're called.

Re: [kicad-users] Re: Feature request: Hard metric

2009-07-09 Thread Chris
Actually, the correct terminology is Imperial units, not English. And mils is actually a unit of angle. the correct terminology for 1/1000 of an inch is thousandth or thou. On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Dan dan...@wolstenholme.net wrote: Not true. I'm an American engineer, and I prefer

Re: [kicad-users] Re: Feature request: Hard metric

2009-07-09 Thread Andy Eskelson
Many people here would refer to English units as Imperial measurements. They also go back much further than the Empire... They are a very natural unit for people to work in, which is why they are still used. Pounds, ounces, yards (an arms length)., miles, stones, feet (on the end of your leg),

Re: [kicad-users] Re: Feature request: Hard metric

2009-07-09 Thread Chris Bartram
Dan wrote: 1) The proper name is English units. It has nothing to do with the present practices of England, the country; that's where they originated from, so that's what they're called. They're not Roman units (how ridiculous), because the Romans didn't have inches. This is just like how

[kicad-users] Re: Feature request: Hard metric

2009-07-09 Thread Dan
No, the correct terminology for 1/1000 of an inch is mil. There's countless PCB manufacturers who agree with me on this, so I'll take their word on it. Here's what Wikipedia has to say about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thou_(length) According to this, mil is the older term, and was only

Re: [kicad-users] Re: Feature request: Hard metric

2009-07-09 Thread Chris
You hit the nail on the head 'In the United States'... I have always used thousandth or thou, and I grew up in England. where the dimension was probably first used. However, it's kind of ironic, that in the US, the prefix 'mil' is used, since the _preferred_ SI units are all