Re: [kicad-users] Re: Installing Kicad from Source files
Hallo, downloading binaries from http://kicad.1301.cz is not the option? Milan Dne 21.8.2010 17:14, Andrew napsal(a): Hi Bernd I've finally managed to do it. After reading various txt install and compile text files, I followed the guide i used upto the point where i got the error, then just used the cmake . cmd and then make and make install. I did the same for the Kicad-doc and Kicad-lib source files, and it all installed in the right place. What I like about the source files is the 3d packages. The resistors have all got there own values, with the appropriate colour bands on them. When I was using Kicad on windows, I was creating my own set of 3d modules, by adding bands to the resistor module, but it was very time consuming. Don't understand why these files are not included in the compiled packages that are available to download in the first place.. Thanks Andy Ps And your quite right. I am not an experienced developer. Wish I was though. I would love to be able to contribute to this wonderful program --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Bernd Wiebusbernd.wie...@... wrote: Hello Andrew. So how do I install the latest stable version on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS using the source code??? A step by step guide would be very hellpfull Perhaps i would appreciate this for Debian Lenny (i think very similar but not equal) too. At moment, i run the version from 05-05-2010 for Ubuntu 8.10 at Debian Lenny. Or is it a little bit assumpting, to try building from the sources without being an experienced developer or system admin? With best regards: Bernd Wiebus alias dl1eic -- GMX DSL SOMMER-SPECIAL: Surf Phone Flat 16.000 für nur 19,99 ¿/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl
Re: [kicad-users] Re: Type Err(4) trace near pad issue in Kicad
The error occurs only when I try to create a PCB without schematic nor netlist AND with the DRC active. I don't get any error when the DRC is OFF, or if I have a schematic and a proper netlist. That's because you can't have DRC without a netlist; please see my last post on this subject for the explanation. Regards, Robert. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3088 - Release Date: 08/22/10 19:35:00
[kicad-users] Re: Installing Kicad from Source files
Well I discovered yesterday that I had a problem with my installation of Kicad from the sources. Because I don't know how to make myself the root, I had to use the sudo command to run the ' make install' option. After coming back to Kicad yesterday, I found that the program would not run. No matter what I tried, so I decided to do total wipe of my system (I know its an overkill, but I got rid of Windows all together at the same time.) So now I need to know how to do it properly using the source codes available from svn and making myself root to perform the installation. Any ideas guy?? Andy --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Milan Horák konfere...@... wrote: Hallo, downloading binaries from http://kicad.1301.cz is not the option? Milan Dne 21.8.2010 17:14, Andrew napsal(a): Hi Bernd I've finally managed to do it. After reading various txt install and compile text files, I followed the guide i used upto the point where i got the error, then just used the cmake . cmd and then make and make install. I did the same for the Kicad-doc and Kicad-lib source files, and it all installed in the right place. What I like about the source files is the 3d packages. The resistors have all got there own values, with the appropriate colour bands on them. When I was using Kicad on windows, I was creating my own set of 3d modules, by adding bands to the resistor module, but it was very time consuming. Don't understand why these files are not included in the compiled packages that are available to download in the first place.. Thanks Andy Ps And your quite right. I am not an experienced developer. Wish I was though. I would love to be able to contribute to this wonderful program --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Bernd Wiebusbernd.wiebus@ wrote: Hello Andrew. So how do I install the latest stable version on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS using the source code??? A step by step guide would be very hellpfull Perhaps i would appreciate this for Debian Lenny (i think very similar but not equal) too. At moment, i run the version from 05-05-2010 for Ubuntu 8.10 at Debian Lenny. Or is it a little bit assumpting, to try building from the sources without being an experienced developer or system admin? With best regards: Bernd Wiebus alias dl1eic -- GMX DSL SOMMER-SPECIAL: Surf Phone Flat 16.000 für nur 19,99 ÿ/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl
Re: [kicad-users] Re: Installing Kicad from Source files
Depends on the distro. type su at a command prompt is the normal method of becoming root. If you are using that awful Ubuntu system of sudo then the easy way is to open a shell and enter sudu su once you do that the the shell will remain as root, but BE CAREFUL not to exit it by accident. With normal Linux compile operations, you only need the root access for the final make install stage. The normal sequence is ./configure make make install Note that not all software follows this sequence, (most do) so be sure to read the install instructions of whatever package you use. I've never needed to compile Kicad, the binaries have always worked for me. Andy On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:38:15 - Andrew andrwp...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Well I discovered yesterday that I had a problem with my installation of Kicad from the sources. Because I don't know how to make myself the root, I had to use the sudo command to run the ' make install' option. After coming back to Kicad yesterday, I found that the program would not run. No matter what I tried, so I decided to do total wipe of my system (I know its an overkill, but I got rid of Windows all together at the same time.) So now I need to know how to do it properly using the source codes available from svn and making myself root to perform the installation. Any ideas guy?? Andy --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Milan Horák konfere...@... wrote: Hallo, downloading binaries from http://kicad.1301.cz is not the option? Milan Dne 21.8.2010 17:14, Andrew napsal(a): Hi Bernd I've finally managed to do it. After reading various txt install and compile text files, I followed the guide i used upto the point where i got the error, then just used the cmake . cmd and then make and make install. I did the same for the Kicad-doc and Kicad-lib source files, and it all installed in the right place. What I like about the source files is the 3d packages. The resistors have all got there own values, with the appropriate colour bands on them. When I was using Kicad on windows, I was creating my own set of 3d modules, by adding bands to the resistor module, but it was very time consuming. Don't understand why these files are not included in the compiled packages that are available to download in the first place.. Thanks Andy Ps And your quite right. I am not an experienced developer. Wish I was though. I would love to be able to contribute to this wonderful program --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Bernd Wiebusbernd.wiebus@ wrote: Hello Andrew. So how do I install the latest stable version on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS using the source code??? A step by step guide would be very hellpfull Perhaps i would appreciate this for Debian Lenny (i think very similar but not equal) too. At moment, i run the version from 05-05-2010 for Ubuntu 8.10 at Debian Lenny. Or is it a little bit assumpting, to try building from the sources without being an experienced developer or system admin? With best regards: Bernd Wiebus alias dl1eic -- GMX DSL SOMMER-SPECIAL: Surf Phone Flat 16.000 für nur 19,99 ¿/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl Please read the Kicad FAQ in the group files section before posting your question. Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the creator of Kicad. Please visit http://www.kicadlib.org for details of how to contribute your symbols/modules to the kicad library. For building Kicad from source and other development questions visit the kicad-devel group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-develYahoo! Groups Links
Re: [kicad-users] Re: Installing Kicad from Source files
sudo is a very old Unix command. sudo is an excellent way to control access to commands that have deep implications. Unlike Windows where roles and authority are typically granted to users on a per-login basis (with the exception of run as which is a half-assed work-like sudo,) it has a published interface and behaviour that just plain works. Becoming and staying root is generally NOT a good thing. Unless you have lots of experience with command line interfaces, it is too easy to forget that you are root and typo something that does permanent damage. A good rule is to only be root for the time necessary to do that which requires root permissions. (I've been doing this professionally and personally for over 30 years, so I think I can claim some experience and authority.) Donald. -- Plain Text email -- it's an accessibility issue () no proprietary attachments; no html mail /\ ascii ribbon campaign - www.asciiribbon.org - Original Message - From: Andy Eskelson andyya...@g0poy.co.uk To: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 6:59:42 AM Subject: Re: [kicad-users] Re: Installing Kicad from Source files Depends on the distro. type su at a command prompt is the normal method of becoming root. If you are using that awful Ubuntu system of sudo then the easy way is to open a shell and enter sudu su once you do that the the shell will remain as root, but BE CAREFUL not to exit it by accident. With normal Linux compile operations, you only need the root access for the final make install stage. The normal sequence is ./configure make make install Note that not all software follows this sequence, (most do) so be sure to read the install instructions of whatever package you use. I've never needed to compile Kicad, the binaries have always worked for me. Andy On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:38:15 - Andrew andrwp...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Well I discovered yesterday that I had a problem with my installation of Kicad from the sources. Because I don't know how to make myself the root, I had to use the sudo command to run the ' make install' option. After coming back to Kicad yesterday, I found that the program would not run. No matter what I tried, so I decided to do total wipe of my system (I know its an overkill, but I got rid of Windows all together at the same time.) So now I need to know how to do it properly using the source codes available from svn and making myself root to perform the installation. Any ideas guy?? Andy [snip]
Re: [kicad-users] Re: Installing Kicad from Source files
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Andrew andrwp...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Thanks for the quick reply Andy. So which binaries do you use exactly??? I have tried using the Synaptic package manager, but the version it downloads is from 2009, and that version keeps crashing every time i select the 3D view. I am after the latest stable release Hi Andrew, I use the package from the 0.0.20100314 version, taken from Debian Squeeze (I think I installed the .deb directly on Ubuntu 10.04 and it worked out of the box), which is also available for the future Ubuntu 10.10. Actually, after a quick glance, I'd say you can use the version for Maverick too, as the dependencies seem to be right for 10.04. To do this, just download: http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kicad/kicad-common_0.0.20100314-1_all.deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kicad/kicad_0.0.20100314-1_i386.deb (change that _i386.deb to _amd64.deb if you're running a 64 bit installation of Ubuntu). You may also want: http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kicad/kicad-doc-en_0.0.20100314-1_all.deb Once you have donwloaded the files, just run: $ sudo dpkg -i kicad*.deb in the same directory they're sitting, and you should be done. If you really want to use the very latest stable copy, I could explain you how extract the debian directory from any working copy of the debian-package source, which you can get from Debian's or Ubuntu's repositories, and how to use it to produce new packages. In any case, try always to use packages. It's the tidiest thing to do. regards, Ricardo
Re: [kicad-users] Re: Installing Kicad from Source files
I'm still using the 2009 final with SUSE 11.1 at the moment. (I use the centos versio on SUSE) I do have SUSE 11.3 installed but I have a annoying problem with my KVM which is preventing the system determining what monitor is connected, so I have not yet installed the latest Kicad on 11.3 as yet. I got the binaries from here: ftp://iut-tice.ujf-grenoble.fr/cao/ The 2010-05-05 final fore win, Ubuntu and Centos are all there. (The 2009 version is now in the old version folder.) The 3D issue is a bit odd, PCBnew should understand the Wings 3D files without any problem, however if you have tried to compile from source, it may be that something is missing. There is not much in the install text, apart from a link to the maiun wings 3d site, it may be worth having a look there. It would also be worth while disabling any graphics effects that may be switched on. sometimes they don't sit well with various apps, and can be the cause of quite a few problems. Things like 3D desktops, wobbly windows (yuk! that one makes me feel sick) and the other such things. (I did have a problem with Wings 3d on a windows box some years ago, which was related to wings choosing a video mode that was not supported by the monitor.) Andy On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:19:05 - Andrew andrwp...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Thanks for the quick reply Andy. So which binaries do you use exactly??? I have tried using the Synaptic package manager, but the version it downloads is from 2009, and that version keeps crashing every time i select the 3D view. I am after the latest stable release Thanks Andy --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Andy Eskelson andyya...@... wrote: Depends on the distro. type su at a command prompt is the normal method of becoming root. If you are using that awful Ubuntu system of sudo then the easy way is to open a shell and enter sudu su once you do that the the shell will remain as root, but BE CAREFUL not to exit it by accident. With normal Linux compile operations, you only need the root access for the final make install stage. The normal sequence is ./configure make make install Note that not all software follows this sequence, (most do) so be sure to read the install instructions of whatever package you use. I've never needed to compile Kicad, the binaries have always worked for me. Andy On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:38:15 - Andrew andrwp...@... wrote: Well I discovered yesterday that I had a problem with my installation of Kicad from the sources. Because I don't know how to make myself the root, I had to use the sudo command to run the ' make install' option. After coming back to Kicad yesterday, I found that the program would not run. No matter what I tried, so I decided to do total wipe of my system (I know its an overkill, but I got rid of Windows all together at the same time.) So now I need to know how to do it properly using the source codes available from svn and making myself root to perform the installation. Any ideas guy?? Andy --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Milan Horák konference@ wrote: Hallo, downloading binaries from http://kicad.1301.cz is not the option? Milan Dne 21.8.2010 17:14, Andrew napsal(a): Hi Bernd I've finally managed to do it. After reading various txt install and compile text files, I followed the guide i used upto the point where i got the error, then just used the cmake . cmd and then make and make install. I did the same for the Kicad-doc and Kicad-lib source files, and it all installed in the right place. What I like about the source files is the 3d packages. The resistors have all got there own values, with the appropriate colour bands on them. When I was using Kicad on windows, I was creating my own set of 3d modules, by adding bands to the resistor module, but it was very time consuming. Don't understand why these files are not included in the compiled packages that are available to download in the first place.. Thanks Andy Ps And your quite right. I am not an experienced developer. Wish I was though. I would love to be able to contribute to this wonderful program --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Bernd Wiebusbernd.wiebus@ wrote: Hello Andrew. So how do I install the latest stable version on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS using the source code??? A step by step guide would be very hellpfull Perhaps i would appreciate this for Debian Lenny (i think very similar but not equal) too. At moment, i run the version from 05-05-2010 for Ubuntu 8.10 at Debian Lenny. Or is it a little bit assumpting, to try building from the sources without
