Re: [kicad-users] Can anyone explain why EEschema uses A and B for pin numbers?

2008-09-18 Thread Pedro Martin
Hi,

I think you are not doing anything wrong.

But there are only 2 choices:
1. Edit eeschema R an C and change pin numbers to 1 an 2.
2. Edit the modules and change pin numbers to A and B.

Maybe there is another choice: copy and paste your old R and C from an older 
project to a new library and use them.

I guess you have already think of these solutions anyway...

Pedro.

 I'm having trouble generating a netlist that can be used in PCBnew. 
 EEschema has decided that all C and R components should have pins A and 
 B instead of 1 and 2. I'm using the default symbol libraries.
 
 PCBnew can't find the right pins on the modules I've picked, and this 
 means the ratsnest isn't complete - and the components aren't connected 
 to anything. 
 
 This keeps happening on new schematics...
 
 What am I doing wrong?
 




[kicad-users] How to edit Lines on PCB?

2008-09-18 Thread malei255
Hi,

I have placed some lines on the PCB Edges Layer and I wonder how one
could edit these lines (with, x- position etc...). In the context
menue (right-click on the line) there is a Edit entry but nothing
happens when I click on it. Not sure if I am doing something wrong?

Regards,

Manuel  



[kicad-users] Re: Can anyone explain why EEschema uses A and B for pin numbers?

2008-09-18 Thread calvingrier
--- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Pedro Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I think you are not doing anything wrong.
 
 But there are only 2 choices:
 1. Edit eeschema R an C and change pin numbers to 1 an 2.
 2. Edit the modules and change pin numbers to A and B.
 
 Maybe there is another choice: copy and paste your old R and C from 
an older 
 project to a new library and use them.

So I tried copy/save from a project with a netlist that works 
(generates netlist connections for pins 1 and 2) and pasting the 
block into a project that's broken.

EEschema removed the old annotations, and I had it update for the new 
schematic. Then I generated the netlist. Once again the netlist had 
pins numbered A and B. PCBnew just can't understand that numbering 
for the default modules in KiCAD.

I looked at the library and the pin numbers on all the standard 2 pin 
passive elements were ~. I could go through and force them to 1 and 
2, but that's a lot of work, and I'd have to do it to each element I 
want to use...

I could also modify all the modules I need, so they all use A and B 
for pin numbers... but again, I'd have a custom set of footprints and 
I'd need to do it every time.


HELP! Jean-Pierre!




Re: [kicad-users] Re: Can anyone explain why EEschema uses A and B for pin numbers?

2008-09-18 Thread jean-pierre charras - INPG
calvingrier a écrit :

 --- In kicad-users@ yahoogroups. com 
 mailto:kicad-users%40yahoogroups.com, Pedro Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I think you are not doing anything wrong.
 
  But there are only 2 choices:
  1. Edit eeschema R an C and change pin numbers to 1 an 2.
  2. Edit the modules and change pin numbers to A and B.
 
  Maybe there is another choice: copy and paste your old R and C from
 an older
  project to a new library and use them.

 So I tried copy/save from a project with a netlist that works
 (generates netlist connections for pins 1 and 2) and pasting the
 block into a project that's broken.

 EEschema removed the old annotations, and I had it update for the new
 schematic. Then I generated the netlist. Once again the netlist had
 pins numbered A and B. PCBnew just can't understand that numbering
 for the default modules in KiCAD.

When copying (duplicates)  a block eeschema reset references because 2 
components cannot have the same reference (or the same time stamp).

 I looked at the library and the pin numbers on all the standard 2 pin
 passive elements were ~. I could go through and force them to 1 and
 2, but that's a lot of work, and I'd have to do it to each element I
 want to use...

I believe you are confusing pin names and pin numbers.
For passive components like R and C, pin names are void (~ in lib)
but the pin numbers are 1 and 2
pin numbers are the link between schematic and boards.
(pin number can be in fact a word using up to 4 ascii code : 1 , 2 or 
inp or anod o AA11)

Please ckeck you library ans see the pin *number* (pin name is not used 
by netlists)

they must be 1 and 2 (and not A or B, unless you are also using A or B 
as pad names in footprints).

Generally speaking pin *numbers and pad names must be the same word (or 
number)


 I could also modify all the modules I need, so they all use A and B
 for pin numbers... but again, I'd have a custom set of footprints and
 I'd need to do it every time.

 HELP! Jean-Pierre!


Here is some things to verify:

1 - Verify in your schematic (not in libedit) the pin number (click on a 
pin)
A common mistake is a duplicate component in 2 different libs. Eeschema 
takes the first (this is a feature: lib order is significant)
Be absolutely sure eeschema (not libedit) see 1 and 2 (and not A  and B) 
as pin *numbers*

2 *DO NOT* use spaces in labels, values, references, component names ...
This is not a problem in eeschema, but a *lot* of netlist formats do not 
accept spaces in names.
I do not know the kicad version you are using.
The last version replaces spaces in labels in pcbnew netlist, but it is 
better to avoid spaces in names.
See (with a text editor) the .net file to verify what is exactly created.


-- 
Jean-Pierre CHARRAS
Maître de conférences
Directeur d'études 2ieme année.
Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2
Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble
BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex

Recherche :
 Grenoble Image Parole Signal Automatique (GIPSA - INPG)
46, Avenue Félix Viallet
38031 Grenoble Cedex


[kicad-users] Wiki returning 403

2008-09-18 Thread Karl Schmidt
http://kicad.sourceforge.net/

forwards to

http://kicad.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

and returns a 403..

Not sure who manages the source forge action.


Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com
3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089
Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434

Time wounds all heels.




Re: [kicad-users] Wiki returning 403

2008-09-18 Thread Milan Horák
Maybe Igor is doing some changes?

Milan

Karl Schmidt napsal(a):
 
 
 http://kicad.sourceforge.net/ http://kicad.sourceforge.net/
 
 forwards to
 
 http://kicad.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page 
 http://kicad.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
 
 and returns a 403..
 
 Not sure who manages the source forge action.
 
 --
 Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:Karl%40xtronics.com
 Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com http://xtronics.com
 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089
 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434
 
 Time wounds all heels.