Re: [kicad-users] Re: gerber files produced by kiCad

2009-05-18 Thread Julien
I did that, and this is the reason why I duplicated the soldermask  
because I wanted to have pads on the both side!


Thanks a lot!!

// from iPhone

Le 18 mai 09 à 01:12, Joerg joerg...@analogconsultants.com a écrit :




Julien Bayle wrote:
 thanks a lot :)
 it is very clear to understand.
 I exported those layers for the 1st pcb of my project.


Just one more comment: It pays to take a real good look at all your
Gerbers with a gerber viewer. This usually makes it obvious what
function a certain file has regardless of how cryptic its name is. It
also catches bugs.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/




Re: [kicad-users] native autorouter VS freerouting.net

2009-05-18 Thread Julien

Thanks a lot!!
I'll test it asap!
It could be fine to put these informations in the pdf or elsewhere

Talk soon

// from iPhone

Le 17 mai 09 à 23:37, Brian Sidebotham brian.sidebot...@gmail.com a  
écrit :





Hi Julien,

It looks like a problem with your designators. A while back a problem
was fixed with the specctra import where a component name began with a
number instead of an alphabetical character. So your component 1pin
should now parse correctly.

I think your problem is with the reference designators for your
component 1pin, they have no designator portion, only the number is
present. So your 1pin component designators are for example 1, 2, 3,
4, 5, etc. instead of something sane like J1, J2, J3, J4, J5, etc.

Unfortunately I'm on a plane tomorrow and am packing now so I don't
have the time to look at this any further, but I'm sure you can fix
this by making sure your 1pin reference designators start with at
least one alphabetical character (a-z)

The KiCad autorouter is currently not as good as the freerouter.net
version, so I would suggest using the freerouter version at the moment
and importing the specctra session back into kicad as your are trying
to do if you intend to autoroute boards.

Best Regards,

Brian Sidebotham.

2009/5/17 Julien Bayle julien.ba...@gmail.com:
 [Attachment(s) from Julien Bayle included below]

 hi Brian,

 here is the error message (in french, but I can translate it)
 here is the ses file from freerouting.net, too.

 I hope I can solve that ...


 as I wrote, I don't understand too why sometimes kicad doesn't  
autoroute

 anything :-(
 if it does, I don't use freerouting.net anymore but ...
 Julien


 2009/5/17 Brian Sidebotham brian.sidebot...@gmail.com


 2009/5/17 Julien Bayle julien.ba...@gmail.com:
  hi,
 
  I would want to autoroute my pcb.
  I tested native autorouter... on several pcb, it began to  
autoroute and
  finished . on some other, it didn't start and just displayed  
the whole

  unrouted wires.
 
  so, I tested freerouting.net
  it works everytime and it is pretty good!
  BUT, how to use the result from freerouting.net to kicad to  
finish my

  pcb ??
 
  I tried to save the file as a session specctra file (.ses) but  
when I'm

  trying to import it in kiCad, there is an error message (expected
  component_id at line 7 etc etc)
 
  how can I solve my problem??
 
  cheers,
  julien

 Hi Julien,

 It sounds like you are doing the right thing, so please post up the
 exact error message you get, and if possible attach your specctra
 session file. I'm sure someone will be able to help you further  
from

 there.

 Best Regards,

 Brian Sidebotham.


 Attachment(s) from Julien Bayle

 1 of 1 Photo(s)

 error.jpg

 1 of 1 File(s)

 PCB1.ses




Re: [kicad-users] Drill file missing vias

2009-05-18 Thread jean-pierre charras - INPG
wdoe999 a écrit :


 I don't know if I'm doing something wrong, but...

 I created 3 boards that have one or more vias on each. If I create a 
 drill file for each board, the drill file does contain all of the via 
 drill holes for that board. I then put the 3 boards onto one panel and 
 then created a drill file. In the Drill-Files- Generation dialogue 
 box, under the Holes-Count section, it clearly says that there are 7 
 Through-Vias. However, the resulting drill file only has one via in 
 it. Curiously, it is the one via on the leftmost board. It seems to be 
 missing the vias from the other boards. There's no problem with any of 
 the other drill holes. The plotting for the panel is OK as well.


Please, can you send me yours PCB files ?
(to jean-pierre.char...@gipsa-lab.inpg.fr)

-- 
Jean-Pierre CHARRAS
Maître de conférences
Directeur d'études 2ieme année.
Génie Electrique et Informatique Industrielle 2
Institut Universitaire de Technologie 1 de Grenoble
BP 67, 38402 St Martin d'Heres Cedex

Recherche :
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Grenoble France


[kicad-users] Re: native autorouter VS freerouting.net

2009-05-18 Thread Julien Bayle
I tested it, it works FINE!

now, I'm going to post another question about ground zone and automatic trace 
suppression ...


thanks again!


--- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Julien julien.ba...@... wrote:

 Thanks a lot!!
 I'll test it asap!
 It could be fine to put these informations in the pdf or elsewhere
 
 Talk soon
 
 // from iPhone
 
 Le 17 mai 09 à 23:37, Brian Sidebotham brian.sidebot...@... a  
 écrit :
 
 
 
  Hi Julien,
 
  It looks like a problem with your designators. A while back a problem
  was fixed with the specctra import where a component name began with a
  number instead of an alphabetical character. So your component 1pin
  should now parse correctly.
 
  I think your problem is with the reference designators for your
  component 1pin, they have no designator portion, only the number is
  present. So your 1pin component designators are for example 1, 2, 3,
  4, 5, etc. instead of something sane like J1, J2, J3, J4, J5, etc.
 
  Unfortunately I'm on a plane tomorrow and am packing now so I don't
  have the time to look at this any further, but I'm sure you can fix
  this by making sure your 1pin reference designators start with at
  least one alphabetical character (a-z)
 
  The KiCad autorouter is currently not as good as the freerouter.net
  version, so I would suggest using the freerouter version at the moment
  and importing the specctra session back into kicad as your are trying
  to do if you intend to autoroute boards.
 
  Best Regards,
 
  Brian Sidebotham.
 
  2009/5/17 Julien Bayle julien.ba...@...:
   [Attachment(s) from Julien Bayle included below]
  
   hi Brian,
  
   here is the error message (in french, but I can translate it)
   here is the ses file from freerouting.net, too.
  
   I hope I can solve that ...
  
  
   as I wrote, I don't understand too why sometimes kicad doesn't  
  autoroute
   anything :-(
   if it does, I don't use freerouting.net anymore but ...
   Julien
  
  
   2009/5/17 Brian Sidebotham brian.sidebot...@...
  
  
   2009/5/17 Julien Bayle julien.ba...@...:
hi,
   
I would want to autoroute my pcb.
I tested native autorouter... on several pcb, it began to  
  autoroute and
finished . on some other, it didn't start and just displayed  
  the whole
unrouted wires.
   
so, I tested freerouting.net
it works everytime and it is pretty good!
BUT, how to use the result from freerouting.net to kicad to  
  finish my
pcb ??
   
I tried to save the file as a session specctra file (.ses) but  
  when I'm
trying to import it in kiCad, there is an error message (expected
component_id at line 7 etc etc)
   
how can I solve my problem??
   
cheers,
julien
  
   Hi Julien,
  
   It sounds like you are doing the right thing, so please post up the
   exact error message you get, and if possible attach your specctra
   session file. I'm sure someone will be able to help you further  
  from
   there.
  
   Best Regards,
  
   Brian Sidebotham.
  
  
   Attachment(s) from Julien Bayle
  
   1 of 1 Photo(s)
  
   error.jpg
  
   1 of 1 File(s)
  
   PCB1.ses
  
 





[kicad-users] zone creation automatic track suppression [1 Attachment]

2009-05-18 Thread Julien Bayle
hi,

I create a pretty ground zone in order to suppress some tracks.
no problem for the zone creation. it is very well documented so..

BUT I have a little problem:
after the filling of the zone, it remains all the tracks existing between
the pads supposed to be connected to the zone.

I put a snapshot of this.

Could someone help me ?

Julien


[kicad-users] Re: zone creation automatic track suppression

2009-05-18 Thread axtz4
--- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Julien Bayle julien.ba...@... wrote:

 hi,
 
 I create a pretty ground zone in order to suppress some tracks.
 no problem for the zone creation. it is very well documented so..
 
 BUT I have a little problem:
 after the filling of the zone, it remains all the tracks existing between
 the pads supposed to be connected to the zone.
 
 I put a snapshot of this.
 
 Could someone help me ?

With the latest rev, you don't need to create tracks between pads that will be 
connected to the zone; thermal reliefs will be automatically created, with the 
relief widths of the size specified in the zone fill dialog.

Two exceptions to this. You may want normal reliefs to be wider than will fit 
into a small pad, like a TQFP. In that case, use a narrow trace and connect 
that pad to another component on the net as usual. The other exception would be 
power pads where you might want much larger traces. Again, draw these 
separately at the desired width.

Once you fill the zone, any existing traces will be merged to the zone in the 
Gerber file and won't be separately visible in the final board.