[Koha-bugs] [Bug 15174] Allow borrowers to be members of additional categories

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Katrin Fischer  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX
 Status|In Discussion   |RESOLVED

--- Comment #11 from Katrin Fischer  ---
I think the idea of this to be able to apply different circulation rules for a
short term loan or other means is still valid, but the proposed implementation
left some unresolved questions. I am closing this WONTFIX for now, but please
feel free to reopen!

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 15174] Allow borrowers to be members of additional categories

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David Cook  changed:

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--- Comment #10 from David Cook  ---
Sounds vaguely interesting but I could see this causing confusion/difficulties
in reporting if nothing else...

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 15174] Allow borrowers to be members of additional categories

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--- Comment #9 from cfhong2...@gmail.com ---
Hi,

Can this patch be applied to Koha 18.05? 
If so, how do I apply this patch?

Thanks,
Chee

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 15174] Allow borrowers to be members of additional categories

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--- Comment #7 from Katrin Fischer  ---
Hi Viktor,

currently the patron category would be only used at checkout time - so
overdues/notices, renewals, etc. would still be those of the initial category
as after the checkout there is no trace of the switched category. That's why I
feel quite uncomfortable with the idea to be honest. The only thing it will
work for is determining the initial loan period.

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--- Comment #8 from Viktor Sarge  ---
> currently the patron category would be only used at checkout time - so
> overdues/notices, renewals, etc. would still be those of the initial
> category as after the checkout there is no trace of the switched category.
> That's why I feel quite uncomfortable with the idea to be honest. The only
> thing it will work for is determining the initial loan period.

I knew we would not be able to ignore all the other places the category is used
:) You are quite right of course Katrin - renewals is another place that we
would have to take into account to make this happen. 

Since there is no desperate need for this patch and the scope is growing to
include all those places we suspected I propose that we leave this in
discussion for the time being. There´s other development that needs to happen,
but if someone would find it highly useful we might pick it up again. I think
the current patch is great for trying out the concept and get a feel of the
proposed change if anyone would want to try the suggested workflow. I still
think the idea is worthwhile, but the development cost is currently looking to
high for us compared to the payoff.

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--- Comment #4 from Katrin Fischer  ---
Hm, what about handling the overdues? Isn't the "chosen patron category" lost
after checking out? So it would only be used for the loan period?

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Martin Stenberg  changed:

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--- Comment #3 from Martin Stenberg 
 ---
Hi Katrin,

thanks for the feedback. The primary/home category is left unchanged with this
patch, so that shouldn't be a problem.

One use case would be a teacher who wish to make a personal loan and a loan for
his/her class during the same session.

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--- Comment #5 from Martin Stenberg 
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Hm, yes, looking at the overdue code, that seem to be the case. That must also
mean that if you change a patrons category, all loans made while the patron
belonged to the old category will be overdue-ruled according to the new
category. But perhaps this is a desired effect?

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Viktor Sarge  changed:

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--- Comment #6 from Viktor Sarge  ---
> I am not sure about this change - Koha uses the patron's home category in a
> lot of places. Can you describe the use case for this?

We developed this one as a bit of a favor to Luleå who have been in need of
this feature (though I think they will change their rules now instead). It's
quite common for libraries here to have multiple accounts for the same patron
depending on in which role they use the library. We have lots of integrated
libraries that are both the school and community library at the same time. That
means that the same library will serve the same patrons as both
students/teachers and as ordinary child/adult accounts. One solution might be
to switch library but that will mess up shelving since there's actually only
one library and is also impractical when the public can access the library
during school hours. This patch would mean that it's a bit easier to handle
that type of problems without ugly hacks. 

When discussing this development Martin did identify a whole lot of places
expecting a single code (73 I think), but we suspect that checkout and overdue
notices/fees may be enough for the scope of this problem. Before doing further
development I think that we need to see that others would find this useful and
that it has a fighting chance to get accepted.

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 15174] Allow borrowers to be members of additional categories

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Martin Stenberg  changed:

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 Status|NEW |ASSIGNED
   Patch complexity|--- |Small patch
   Assignee|koha-b...@lists.koha-commun |mar...@bugs.koha-community.
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--- Comment #1 from Martin Stenberg 
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Created attachment 44762
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http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=44762=edit
Bug 15174: Member of multiple categories

This patch makes it possible for borrowers to be members of more than one
category. On checkout, librarian can choose which category to do checkout as.

Test plan:

1. Apply this patch
2. Run updatedatabase.pl
3. Log in to staff client and modify a patron
4. Under "Library managenet" a new field "Additional categories" should be
   visible
5. Select one or more additional catogaries for the patron
6. Save
7. Make a checkout for the modified patron
8. A new dropdown box labled "Choose category for this checkout:" should be
   visible on the checkout page
9. Choose one of the additional categories in the dropdown box and checkout
10.Confirm that appropriet circulation rules for the category was applied
to
   the checkout

Sponsored-by: Halland County Library

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--- Comment #2 from Katrin Fischer  ---
Hi Martin,

I am not sure about this change - Koha uses the patron's home category in a lot
of places. Can you describe the use case for this?

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