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--- Comment #15 from Caroline Cyr La Rose  ---
This has been done for a while, closing.

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Bug 7840 depends on bug 15326, which changed state.

Bug 15326 Summary: Add CMS feature
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I'm documenting bug 15326, I will remove the section about CMS at the same
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--- Comment #13 from Katrin Fischer  ---
(In reply to Marie-Luce Laflamme from comment #12)
> Is this still relevant? The news tools has changed drastically since this
> conversation.

The feature described here was used to add new pages to the OPAC, that's
something that's still not possible with the News feature, but it would be with 
Bug 15326 - Add CMS feature.

We should probably still remove the CMS instructions if they are still there,
because they are unlikely to work anymore and require to change Koha core code,
which we shouldn't recommend:

https://koha-community.org/manual/20.05/en/html/extending_koha.html?highlight=cms#using-koha-as-a-content-management-system-cms

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--- Comment #12 from Marie-Luce Laflamme  ---
Is this still relevant? The news tools has changed drastically since this
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 Depends on|12806   |15326


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12806
[Bug 12806] Adding 'Koha as a CMS' to the OPAC
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See Fridolin's POC on bug 14980.

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--- Comment #9 from Viktor Sarge viktor.sa...@regionhalland.se ---
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Mockup with idea for primary navbar with Koha as CMS

I'm trying out some mockups of how Koha as CMS might look to the patron. As I
don't use it as of now this might be redundant but this is how I'd imagine it.
Since there is already the head with a black horizontal cross-site navigation
I'm going with tabs.

(I'll go think about how a third level page or similar might look and post
something there too)

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Mockup with third level page displayed

This is a mockup of the tabbed main nag + left hand navigation that goes two
levels deep. I'm not completely happy with how the different levels of the left
hand navigation is displayed. Some kind of highlight might work to give focus
to the active page in the left hand navbar. 

* The main area of the page is though to come from the news-functionality. 
* The main nav and left hand bar i auto generated. Some kind of create a new
page-functionality will be required here to create a page, give it a name,
give it a title in the navigation and place it in the hierarchy. 
* The box(es) on the right hand column should also be created with the news
tool and I'd rather see that they are standardized then user-created boxes
through hacking a two column layout in the main area.

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--- Comment #6 from Viktor Sarge viktor.sa...@regionhalland.se ---
Using the news tool sounds like a good start. I'd say baseline would be to
light up pages with content in the main area created with the news tool. The
ability to also publish a right hand column (perhaps in the popular right hand
boxes style) would be great. 

Language handling is good - but I´d say we also need the possibility to publish
a page for all langugages that doesn't have their own version of the page. If
it isn't already possible that is.

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--- Comment #7 from Galen Charlton gmcha...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to comment #5)
 I think maybe we could use the news tool for this. The advantage of the news
 tool is, that it already has some CMS-like functionality and allows you to
 add content in multiple languages. The system preferences are always limited
 in that area.

Interesting idea.  There are a couple aspects of OPAC news as it exists now
that don't map cleanly to the Koha-as-CMS hack, most particularly title and
number, but possibly also expirationdate.  However, a bit of refactoring of the
database tables might lead us to something like this:

CREATE TABLE page_content (
   id int(10) not null auto_increment,
   html text not null,
   PRIMARY KEY (id)
);

CREATE TABLE `opac_news` ( -- data from the news tool
  `idnew` int(10) unsigned NOT NULL auto_increment, -- unique identifier for
the news article
  `title` varchar(250) NOT NULL default '', -- title of the news article
  `lang` varchar(25) NOT NULL default '', -- location for the article (koha is
the staff client, slip is the circulation receipt and language codes are for
the opac)
  `timestamp` timestamp NOT NULL default CURRENT_TIMESTAMP, -- pulibcation date
and time
  `expirationdate` date default NULL, -- date the article is set to expire or
no longer be visible
  `number` int(11) default NULL, -- the order in which this article appears in
that specific location,
  page_content_id int(10) not null,
  CONSTRAINT opac_news_fk1 FOREIGN KEY (page_content_id) REFERENCES
page_content (id) ON DELETE RESTRICT ON UPDATE CASCADE 
  PRIMARY KEY  (`idnew`)
) ENGINE=InnoDB DEFAULT CHARSET=utf8;

CREATE TABLE cms_page (
  id int(10) unsigned NOT NULL auto_increment,
  default_page_content_id int(10) null, -- page to use if no specific matching
language available
  PRIMARY KEY (id),
  CONSTRAINT cms_page_fk1 FOREIGN KEY (default_page_content_id) REFERENCES
page_content (id) ON DELETE SET NULL ON UPDATE CASCADE 
);

CREATE TABLE cms_page_lang_map (
  id int(10) unsigned NOT NULL auto_increment,
  lang varchar(25) NOT NULL default ''
  page_content_id int(10) not null,
  PRIMARY KEY (id),
  CONSTRAINT cms_page_lang_map_fk1 FOREIGN KEY (default_page_content_id)
REFERENCES page_content (id) ON DELETE CASCADE ON UPDATE CASCADE 
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--- Comment #8 from Katrin Fischer katrin.fisc...@bsz-bw.de ---
I know that CMS like Typo3 let you set an expiration date for your pages - so
that's not unseen in a CMS and you can leave it empty to mean forever. But it
seems you need a start date that is at least yesterday.

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--- Comment #2 from Galen Charlton gmcha...@gmail.com ---
My personal inclination (though one not yet backed by any patches) would be to
turn Koha-as-CMS into a proper feature, along the lines of:

- add a syspref to enable it
- create an admin page to manage the page_* sysprefs
- use TinyMCE as a WYSIWYG editor (this is inspired by some IRC discussion
today)

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--- Comment #3 from Nicole C. Engard neng...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to comment #2)
 My personal inclination (though one not yet backed by any patches) would be
 to turn Koha-as-CMS into a proper feature, along the lines of:

I agree!

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--- Comment #4 from Viktor Sarge viktor.sa...@regionhalland.se ---
I´d too like to see this as a proper feature. Koha handles replacing the
current web frontends quite good and only really lacks when it comes to
CMS-functionality. What I would consider a good baseline is: 

* Wysiwyg editing of pages. 
* A few levels deep of pages (horizontal navigation bar + left hand navigation
working together)

I´d be interested to hear from someone in the know what this would take to
implement. We know we will want to do some development during late 2013/2014
and I'd like to know if this is something we could afford to fund/co-fund.

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--- Comment #1 from Nicole C. Engard neng...@gmail.com ---
Magnus,

I know people who are using this feature and so I don't want to remove it from
the manual - even if it is a hack - it works.

Once the new way is implemented we can put that in instead.

Nicole

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