Re: [Koha-devel] Elasticsearch sans Zebra

[David Cook via Koha-devel]

Can you be more specific? If there’s a problem, a ticket should be raised.

 

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Philippe Blouin via Koha-devel
Sent: Wednesday, 27 March 2024 11:30 PM
To: Fridolin SOMERS ; 
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Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Elasticsearch sans Zebra

 

Well, not really.  Hammat asked about limitations on Feb 28 on this very list, 
because attributes are not well handled.


  

Philippe Blouin 
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On 2024-03-27 06:21, Fridolin SOMERS via Koha-devel wrote:

Ah nope, z39.50 can be handled by misc/z3950_responder.pl 
https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Setting_up_the_Z39.50_and_SRU_Server 

Le 25/03/2024 à 13:59, Philippe Blouin a écrit : 



Hi! 

We have a scenario (albeit an exception) where both are used, due to the 
limitation of ES's z3950. 

So we fill zebraqueue uselessly in 199 Koha, but really really need it in 1. 

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On 2024-03-25 08:54, Fridolin SOMERS via Koha-devel wrote: 



Hi, 

We have patch since a few years for that because filling zebraqueue is useless 
and can't be removed with cleanup_database.pl : 
https://git.biblibre.com/biblibre/kohac/commit/50ae1a44d200c6fa46940107d15bef6d66e55383
 

It would be nice to have a more official way ;) 

Best regards 

Le 25/03/2024 à 12:29, David Schmidt via Koha-devel a écrit : 



Hi David 

the majority of our Koha installations use Elastiscearch and we have a process 
that deactivates zebra but we would love to see the change you proposed. 

I vaguely remember a bug where not having zebra running caused a problem (with 
background jobs i think) even if ES is in charge of indexing. 

cheers 
david (HKS3/www.koha-support.eu) 

On Mon, 25 Mar 2024, at 2:22 AM, David Cook via Koha-devel wrote: 




Hi all, 


I have started using Elasticsearch more with Koha, and we’re at a point of 
wanting to use Elasticsearch without Zebra for Koha. 

I came across “Bug 21820 - Zebraqueue should not be added to when only 
Elasticsearch is used” and it seems like other people are interested in this 
too. 


I imagine it’s just a case of getting a patch written? Overall, it’s an idea 
that people support? 


David Cook 

Senior Software Engineer 

Prosentient Systems 

Suite 7.03 

6a Glen St 

Milsons Point NSW 2061 

Australia 


Office: 02 9212 0899 

Online: 02 8005 0595 


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Re: [Koha-devel] Elasticsearch sans Zebra

[Philippe Blouin via Koha-devel]

Well, not really.  Hammat asked about limitations on Feb 28 on this very 
list, because attributes are not well handled.


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On 2024-03-27 06:21, Fridolin SOMERS via Koha-devel wrote:

Ah nope, z39.50 can be handled by misc/z3950_responder.pl
https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Setting_up_the_Z39.50_and_SRU_Server

Le 25/03/2024 à 13:59, Philippe Blouin a écrit :

Hi!

We have a scenario (albeit an exception) where both are used, due to 
the limitation of ES's z3950.


So we fill zebraqueue uselessly in 199 Koha, but really really need 
it in 1.


Logo inLibro  Philippe Blouin
Directeur de la technologie

T 833-INLIBRO (465-4276) , poste 230
C philippe.blo...@inlibro.com

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On 2024-03-25 08:54, Fridolin SOMERS via Koha-devel wrote:

Hi,

We have patch since a few years for that because filling zebraqueue 
is useless and can't be removed with cleanup_database.pl :
https://git.biblibre.com/biblibre/kohac/commit/50ae1a44d200c6fa46940107d15bef6d66e55383 



It would be nice to have a more official way ;)

Best regards

Le 25/03/2024 à 12:29, David Schmidt via Koha-devel a écrit :

Hi David

the majority of our Koha installations use Elastiscearch and we 
have a process that deactivates zebra but we would love to see the 
change you proposed.


I vaguely remember a bug where not having zebra running caused a 
problem (with background jobs i think) even if ES is in charge of 
indexing.


cheers
david (HKS3/www.koha-support.eu)

On Mon, 25 Mar 2024, at 2:22 AM, David Cook via Koha-devel wrote:


Hi all,


I have started using Elasticsearch more with Koha, and we’re at a 
point of wanting to use Elasticsearch without Zebra for Koha.


I came across “Bug 21820 - Zebraqueue should not be added to when 
only Elasticsearch is used” and it seems like other people are 
interested in this too.



I imagine it’s just a case of getting a patch written? Overall, 
it’s an idea that people support?



David Cook

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Prosentient Systems

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Milsons Point NSW 2061

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Office: 02 9212 0899

Online: 02 8005 0595


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Re: [Koha-devel] Elasticsearch sans Zebra

[Fridolin SOMERS via Koha-devel]

Ah nope, z39.50 can be handled by misc/z3950_responder.pl
https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Setting_up_the_Z39.50_and_SRU_Server

Le 25/03/2024 à 13:59, Philippe Blouin a écrit :

Hi!

We have a scenario (albeit an exception) where both are used, due to the 
limitation of ES's z3950.


So we fill zebraqueue uselessly in 199 Koha, but really really need it in 1.

Logo inLibro Philippe Blouin
Directeur de la technologie

T 833-INLIBRO (465-4276) , poste 230
C philippe.blo...@inlibro.com

www.inLibro.com 

On 2024-03-25 08:54, Fridolin SOMERS via Koha-devel wrote:

Hi,

We have patch since a few years for that because filling zebraqueue is 
useless and can't be removed with cleanup_database.pl :

https://git.biblibre.com/biblibre/kohac/commit/50ae1a44d200c6fa46940107d15bef6d66e55383

It would be nice to have a more official way ;)

Best regards

Le 25/03/2024 à 12:29, David Schmidt via Koha-devel a écrit :

Hi David

the majority of our Koha installations use Elastiscearch and we have 
a process that deactivates zebra but we would love to see the change 
you proposed.


I vaguely remember a bug where not having zebra running caused a 
problem (with background jobs i think) even if ES is in charge of 
indexing.


cheers
david (HKS3/www.koha-support.eu)

On Mon, 25 Mar 2024, at 2:22 AM, David Cook via Koha-devel wrote:


Hi all,


I have started using Elasticsearch more with Koha, and we’re at a 
point of wanting to use Elasticsearch without Zebra for Koha.


I came across “Bug 21820 - Zebraqueue should not be added to when 
only Elasticsearch is used” and it seems like other people are 
interested in this too.



I imagine it’s just a case of getting a patch written? Overall, it’s 
an idea that people support?



David Cook

Senior Software Engineer

Prosentient Systems

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Milsons Point NSW 2061

Australia


Office: 02 9212 0899

Online: 02 8005 0595


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