Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-08 Thread Mathieu Saby
Yes, lots of patches, and - it would be difficult to find a RM for 1 year, - libraries would not be happy if they have to wait 1 year to see their sponsored devs pushed in master, - the update from 3.0 to 3.2 (2 years...) seems to be a very very bad memory for lot of people (I think at that

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-08 Thread Indranil Das Gupta
Hi, Not to nitpick, but won't numbering Koha with 4.x open possibilities of confusion with that other prop. product with a similar sounding name and version numbering? just wondering aloud :) cheers -- Indranil Das Gupta Phone : +91-98300-20971 Blog: http://indradg.randomink.org/blog IRC

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-08 Thread Mathieu Saby
...@rijksmuseum.nl To: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering Message-ID: 809BE39CD64BFD4EB9036172EBCCFA310E20641A@S-MAIL-1B.rijksmuseum.intra Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cool discussion :) Here is my

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-08 Thread Ian Walls
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Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-07 Thread Mathieu Saby
Hello Maybe you will not agree with me, but here is my *personal *opinion about release rythm : 6 month between each major release seems quite a short delay. In France we have libraries using 3.10 (I think only my library for the moment), 3.8, probably 3.6, 3.2 (with a lot of local changes).

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-07 Thread Archives and Collections Society
At 04:07 PM 4/7/2013 -0400, Jared Camins-Esakov wrote: But please do not jump from 3 to 14 ! Good point. I added the following proposal to the agenda for the next IRC meeting: When does the vote take place, and how does one join in? I've no experience whatsoever with IRC, what's needed

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-07 Thread Paul
At 04:07 PM 4/7/2013 -0400, Jared Camins-Esakov wrote: But please do not jump from 3 to 14 ! Good point. I added the following proposal to the agenda for the next IRC meeting: When does the vote take place, and how does one join in? I've no experience whatsoever with IRC, what's needed

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-07 Thread Liz Rea
http://koha-community.org/get-involved/irc/ may be the resource you are looking for. Cheers, Liz Rea On 08/04/13 10:07, Paul wrote: At 04:07 PM 4/7/2013 -0400, Jared Camins-Esakov wrote: But please do not jump from 3 to 14 ! Good point. I added the following proposal to the agenda for

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-07 Thread Mathieu Saby
Thank you for Katrin Chris for your answers ( I also read some comments on irc...) You convinced me, 1 year release would be a bad idea ;-) Mathieu Le 07/04/2013 10:48, Katrin Fischer a écrit : Hi Mathieu, you are right in that updating every half year is a lot of work, but the good thing

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-07 Thread Robin Sheat
Galen Charlton schreef op vr 05-04-2013 om 11:28 [-0700]: Really just two things: first, that they increase from version to version. I reserve the right to get grumpy if they don't map cleanly into the debian versioning scheme. Second, that we don't spend a great deal of time discussing

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-07 Thread David Cook
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Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-06 Thread Paul Poulain
Le 05/04/2013 20:28, Galen Charlton a écrit : I don't ask much of version number schemes. Really just two things: first, that they increase from version to version. Second, that we don't spend a great deal of time discussing them. :) OK, I propose to open a poll to have as many ppl opinion as

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-06 Thread Jared Camins-Esakov
Paul, OK, I propose to open a poll to have as many ppl opinion as possible. The most interested ppl being users/libraries themselves ! Are you seriously proposing we waste MORE time on this? As everyone involved in this discussion has expressed a willingness to start versioning Koha with whole

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-06 Thread Paul
At 12:15 AM 4/7/2013 +0200, Paul Poulain wrote: [snip] The poll would have the following options : * keep 3. forever * keep the 3. until a major functional change is made, like introducing a new search engine. The numbering change is decided by the Release Manager. * drop the 3. and use 14.0,

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-06 Thread Chris Cormack
Paul pau...@aandc.org wrote: At 12:15 AM 4/7/2013 +0200, Paul Poulain wrote: [snip] The poll would have the following options : * keep 3. forever * keep the 3. until a major functional change is made, like introducing a new search engine. The numbering change is decided by the Release

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Quoc Uy
) -- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 09:40:22 +0200 From: Paul Poulain paul.poul...@biblibre.com To: Koha Devel Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org Subject: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering Message-ID: 515e7fe6.5030...@biblibre.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello koha

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Chris Nighswonger
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 3:40 AM, Paul Poulain paul.poul...@biblibre.comwrote: What could/should we expect to decide to switch to 4.x ? IIRC this was discussed sometime back on irc/wiki/mailing list/somewhere and the prevailing thought was that 4.x would happen when the solr implementation was

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Paul Poulain
Le 05/04/2013 13:34, Kyle Hall a écrit : From what I've I've heard around the water cooler, we won't be switching to 4.x until there is some major change to the internal infrastructure of Koha ( like Solr support, or perhaps DBIx::Class support ). The switch from 2.x to 3.x was driven by a

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Paul Poulain
Le 05/04/2013 14:11, Chris Nighswonger a écrit : It seems that any major move forward would qualify for a major version increment, however. Something like DBIx, the completion of the move from C4:: to Koha::, the completion of the move from YUI to bootstrap, etc. In this case, we could have

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Paul
At 07:34 AM 4/5/2013 -0400, Kyle Hall wrote: From what I've I've heard around the water cooler, we won't be switching to 4.x until there is some major change to the internal infrastructure of Koha ( like Solr support, or perhaps DBIx::Class support ). I think if were to ditch the traditional

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Paul Poulain
Le 05/04/2013 15:26, Paul Poulain a écrit : So 12.0, 12.1, 12.2,... then 14.0,... Another positive aspect of this option : 12.0 IS a number. 3.12.0 isn't ;-) -- Paul POULAIN - BibLibre http://www.biblibre.com Free Open Source Softwares for libraries Koha, Drupal, Piwik, Jasper

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Kyle Hall
I think you have some good ideas here. It seems to me that support for each release drops off rather dramatically. Our oldest supported release is currently 3.8 which was first released about 1 year ago! Right now I believe a release is only supported as long as we have a maintainer willing to do

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread BWS Johnson
Salvete! You silly, silly man. Everyone knows that anything past nine isn#x27;t real maths. ;) xkcd.com#x2F;899#x2F; I still mostly don#x27;t care how things are numbered. I care far more that thongs operate how they ought to. Cheers,

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Nicole Engard
I'm not too pick about the numbering, as a trainer I have been saying that we'll roll to 4.0 when we get Solr since that's what was said at KohaCon and in IRC meetings (maybe on the mailing list too). I think a single number is certainly easier for the average person than our current 3.10.4 type

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Jared Camins-Esakov
I'm not too pick about the numbering, as a trainer I have been saying that we'll roll to 4.0 when we get Solr since that's what was said at KohaCon and in IRC meetings (maybe on the mailing list too). I think a single number is certainly easier for the average person than our current 3.10.4

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Nicole Engard
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Galen Charlton g...@esilibrary.com wrote: Consequently, I'd be happy if we kept the 3.x series going indefinitely, or if we bumped up the major version number when it felt right, or if we dropped the 3. and called the fall release 13.0 or 14.0. Whatever gets

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Liz Rea
I too was looking forward to 3.14. I'm happy to change it after that. :P Yes, ok, it's a sentimental thing but... it's PI. COME ON. Liz On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Nicole Engard neng...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Galen Charlton g...@esilibrary.com wrote:

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Christopher Nighswonger
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Liz Rea wizzy...@gmail.com wrote: I too was looking forward to 3.14. I'm happy to change it after that. :P Yes, ok, it's a sentimental thing but... it's PI. COME ON. So does that make for a potentially irrational release? Chris

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Mark Tompsett
From: Liz Rea Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 6:45 PM To: Nicole Engard Cc: Koha Devel Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering I too was looking forward to 3.14. I'm happy to change it after that. :P Yes, ok, it's a sentimental thing but... it's PI. COME ON. It’s a close approximation of pi

Re: [Koha-devel] Koha numbering

2013-04-05 Thread Chris Cormack
Means we never need to worry about increasing the major number again, just keep adding digits. :) Chris Christopher Nighswonger chris.nighswon...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Liz Rea wizzy...@gmail.com wrote: I too was looking forward to 3.14. I'm happy to change it