Re: Help! Need Fedora CDs or DVD

[Paul G. Allen]

Paul G. Allen wrote:

I can't find my FC7 DVD (probably because I had borrowed it). I do not
have a DVD writer in a working computer, but I do have a CD writer. So
far I have looked on several Fedora mirrors, but have only found ISO's
for DVDs.

My laptop is FUBAR until I can get my hands on FC7 or FC8 install CDs,
DVD, or CD iso images that I can burn.



I was finally able to get FC8 installed without losing any of my 
important data.


For whatever reason, some of the partitions kept causing problems. I 
knew I'd have the same problem if I got a complete DVD of FC7 or FC8, so 
I worked through it with the FC8 LiveCD I already had.


Since I had /usr and /usr/local each on a partition of their own with 
30GB each, I copied all important data (/home, apps in /opt, /etc so I 
had reference to old config files, and some other misc. stuff) to 
/usr/local. I then used the FC8 LiveCD and selected the custom file 
system setting. I re-formatted all Linux partitions EXCEPT /usr/local. I 
used the /usr partition for both /usr and /usr/local (leaving the 
original /usr/local unmounted and unchanged) since 30GB is more than 
enough space for both.


The install went fine with no errors. I rebooted the system, and 
re-mounted the old /usr/local partition as /usr/local (the new 
/usr/local had no data installed by the LiveCD). I copied my old 
/etc/fstab over the new one, made necessary changes since FC8 changed 
some partition labels, and rebooted.


The system came up fine, so I then spent many hours installing missing 
packages (the LiveCD install is very minimal) and updating the ones that 
were present. I then restored my /home/pgallen data from the backup, 
which restored my mail and Firefox settings (among other things) so now 
my e-mail is working again. There's still a few apps to restore, but for 
the most part everything is working.


This is probably the fifth upgrade in a row that has failed. When I 
tried to upgrade from FC3 to FC4, it failed and I had to mess with it to 
 get a working system. The same with FC4-FC5, FC5-FC6, FC6-FC7, and now 
FC7-FC8 (OK, the FC7 install was partially broken, so maybe this one 
doesn't count). In any case, I'd think that they would make sure that 
upgrades from a previous version would work much better. I'd also think 
there would be an obvious option in the installer to upgrade while 
preserving existing partitions and data. If the Linux community wants to 
promote Linux to more end users, then these are the little things that 
need to be easy and flawless.


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Re: Help! Need Fedora CDs or DVD

[James G. Sack (jim)]

DJA wrote:
> James G. Sack (jim) wrote:
>> DJA wrote:
>>> Paul G. Allen wrote:
 Trying to install FC8 from a FC8 LiveCD failed with an exception
 twice. Looks like I'll have to find my spare IDE drive and copy the
 more important data to it via USB, then do a clean install after I get
 a DVD.

 PGA
>>> I find I have the capability to create DVD's from ISO files with my
>>> computer. You are welcome to take advantage of this capability. Contact
>>> me off list and I will give you directions to my laBORatory. As a
>>> gesture of my good will, I will also supply, free of charge, not only
>>> the blank media, but the labor to carry out the task as well.
>>>
>>
>> Hey, DJA-
>>
>> No disrespect to this Paul guy, but you do realize that he is offering
>> you something to load on your computer.
>>
>> Responsible security practices would suggest at least verifying the
>> identity of the other party. I assume you might have some way of doing
>> that.
>>
>> Regards,
>> ..j (Prob. for non-Allens, I may need one of these? ;-) )
> 
> Did this one whoosh over your head Jim, or are you just playing along
> with me?  ;)  My reply to PGA was rather an inside joke. Some others in
> the group may have gotten it. I don't expect all did.
> 

Well, I confess I didn't grok _the_ inside joke, but guessed it was
something of that sort.

At the time it seemed clever to try to fan the silliness a bit. :-)

Regards,
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Re: Help! Need Fedora CDs or DVD

[DJA]

James G. Sack (jim) wrote:

DJA wrote:

Paul G. Allen wrote:

Trying to install FC8 from a FC8 LiveCD failed with an exception
twice. Looks like I'll have to find my spare IDE drive and copy the
more important data to it via USB, then do a clean install after I get
a DVD.

PGA

I find I have the capability to create DVD's from ISO files with my
computer. You are welcome to take advantage of this capability. Contact
me off list and I will give you directions to my laBORatory. As a
gesture of my good will, I will also supply, free of charge, not only
the blank media, but the labor to carry out the task as well.



Hey, DJA-

No disrespect to this Paul guy, but you do realize that he is offering
you something to load on your computer.

Responsible security practices would suggest at least verifying the
identity of the other party. I assume you might have some way of doing that.

Regards,
..j (Prob. for non-Allens, I may need one of these? ;-) )


Did this one whoosh over your head Jim, or are you just playing along 
with me?  ;)  My reply to PGA was rather an inside joke. Some others in 
the group may have gotten it. I don't expect all did.


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Re: Help! Need Fedora CDs or DVD

[Doug LaRue]

** Reply to message from "Paul G. Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Tue, 15
Apr 2008 22:07:00 -0700

> Trying to install FC8 from a FC8 LiveCD failed with an exception twice. 
> Looks like I'll have to find my spare IDE drive and copy the more 
> important data to it via USB, then do a clean install after I get a DVD.

how about repartitioning from a LiveCD and move your files to the new partition
and
then do a reinstallation to the old-resized partition. Then move the new backup
partition in as /home/pgallen or something like that. I've used qtparted and
parted from Knoppix and Ubuntu to do this type of thing. But with REALLY
important stuff, rsync to a networked system first eased my mind though I've
never had data loss. Heck, I used to use fdisk to resize partitions in the old
days without ever losing data as long as the new partition started at the same
place and was resized beyond data size/space all was good. That was before
partition magic and the like.

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Re: Help! Need Fedora CDs or DVD

[Carl Lowenstein]

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 1:04 AM, DJA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Paul G. Allen wrote:
>
> >
> > Trying to install FC8 from a FC8 LiveCD failed with an exception twice.
> Looks like I'll have to find my spare IDE drive and copy the more important
> data to it via USB, then do a clean install after I get a DVD.
> >
> > PGA
> >
>
>  I find I have the capability to create DVD's from ISO files with my
> computer. You are welcome to take advantage of this capability. Contact me
> off list and I will give you directions to my laBORatory. As a gesture of my
> good will, I will also supply, free of charge, not only the blank media, but
> the labor to carry out the task as well.

By the way, current ISO images from the Fedora Unity project contain
all updates/patches through the end of March 2008.  This means that
there is very little extra to bring your system up to date after the
install.

Yesterday a Fedora 8 install from the live CD took me only 20 minutes.
 But then there were something like 350 updates, lasting another 3
hours.

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Re: Help! Need Fedora CDs or DVD

[James G. Sack (jim)]

DJA wrote:
> Paul G. Allen wrote:
>>
>> Trying to install FC8 from a FC8 LiveCD failed with an exception
>> twice. Looks like I'll have to find my spare IDE drive and copy the
>> more important data to it via USB, then do a clean install after I get
>> a DVD.
>>
>> PGA
> 
> I find I have the capability to create DVD's from ISO files with my
> computer. You are welcome to take advantage of this capability. Contact
> me off list and I will give you directions to my laBORatory. As a
> gesture of my good will, I will also supply, free of charge, not only
> the blank media, but the labor to carry out the task as well.
> 

Hey, DJA-

No disrespect to this Paul guy, but you do realize that he is offering
you something to load on your computer.

Responsible security practices would suggest at least verifying the
identity of the other party. I assume you might have some way of doing that.

Regards,
..j (Prob. for non-Allens, I may need one of these? ;-) )


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Re: Help! Need Fedora CDs or DVD

[DJA]

Paul G. Allen wrote:


Trying to install FC8 from a FC8 LiveCD failed with an exception twice. 
Looks like I'll have to find my spare IDE drive and copy the more 
important data to it via USB, then do a clean install after I get a DVD.


PGA


I find I have the capability to create DVD's from ISO files with my 
computer. You are welcome to take advantage of this capability. Contact 
me off list and I will give you directions to my laBORatory. As a 
gesture of my good will, I will also supply, free of charge, not only 
the blank media, but the labor to carry out the task as well.


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Re: Help! Need Fedora CDs or DVD

[Paul G. Allen]

Todd Walton wrote:

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Carl Lowenstein
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Todd Walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Paul G. Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 > It's interesting to see how much is gone, but yet the system still boots
 > into single user mode and the data that is left on the HDD can still be
 > accessed via a live or rescue CD.

 Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't single user mode just the kernel
 and a (shell) binary?

You also get mounted file systems.  And the opportunity to run programs.


Right.  But I'm just saying that it doesn't seem so amazing that you
can still boot into single user mode even when half your files are
toast.



Compare to Windows. Remove 65% of the files comprising a Windows system 
and see if it boots and allows you to do anything in it. I probably got 
lucky and caught it before it removed any /really/ important stuff.


Trying to install FC8 from a FC8 LiveCD failed with an exception twice. 
Looks like I'll have to find my spare IDE drive and copy the more 
important data to it via USB, then do a clean install after I get a DVD.


PGA
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Re: Help! Need Fedora CDs or DVD

[Todd Walton]

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Carl Lowenstein
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Todd Walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Paul G. Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  > It's interesting to see how much is gone, but yet the system still boots
> >  > into single user mode and the data that is left on the HDD can still be
> >  > accessed via a live or rescue CD.
> >
> >  Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't single user mode just the kernel
> >  and a (shell) binary?
>
> You also get mounted file systems.  And the opportunity to run programs.

Right.  But I'm just saying that it doesn't seem so amazing that you
can still boot into single user mode even when half your files are
toast.

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Re: Help! Need Fedora CDs or DVD

[Carl Lowenstein]

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Todd Walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Paul G. Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > It's interesting to see how much is gone, but yet the system still boots
>  > into single user mode and the data that is left on the HDD can still be
>  > accessed via a live or rescue CD.
>
>  Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't single user mode just the kernel
>  and a (shell) binary?

You also get mounted file systems.  And the opportunity to run programs.

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Re: Help! Need Fedora CDs or DVD

[Todd Walton]

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Paul G. Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's interesting to see how much is gone, but yet the system still boots
> into single user mode and the data that is left on the HDD can still be
> accessed via a live or rescue CD.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't single user mode just the kernel
and a (shell) binary?

-todd


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Re: Help! Need Fedora CDs or DVD

[Carl Lowenstein]

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Paul G. Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>  Carl Lowenstein wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Paul G. Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Carl Lowenstein wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > I've already volunteered, off-list.  If I didn't already have such a
> > > > DVD in hand, I could produce another in 25 to 30 minutes.  Burned,
> > > > byte-checked, and labeled.  Could even make a batch of 3 in about the
> > > > same time, but that seems excessive.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >  I tried a FC8 Live CD, but it wanted to remove all Linux partitions and
> > > install clean. I can't be doing that as there's data on the drive I
> don't
> > > want to lose. I'm going to try a FC7 Rescue CD, but I'm not keeping my
> hopes
> > > up with that. If it fails, I'll be contacting Carl about getting a FC7
> and
> > > FC8 DVD (FC7 to fix what I have, and FC8 to update after that).
> > >
> >
> > That is not mandatory.  You have the option of a custom partition
> > scheme, in which you can choose which partitions to keep and which to
> > reformat.  Actually I did that myself about 3 hours ago to my spare
> > computer in the back room.
> >
> > At the top of the partitioning page, there is a slot that says
> > something like "remove all Linux partitions" but it can be scrolled to
> > a few other choices, one of which is custom partition.
> >
>
>  I was thinking of using this option(custom partition) with a FC7 Live CD.
> First I'll have to boot with a rescue CD to see which partitions are which,
> and write them down.

My experience this afternoon upgrading a FC6 system to F8 with the
live CD was that "custom partition" told me where each partition had
previously been mounted.  So I could then choose to mount them in the
same place, and reformat some and not others.  The only interesting
glitch was that the Live CD installer insisted on having a big /
partition because it didn't understand that a lot of stuff would go to
/usr.  Fortunately my previous partitioning scheme had / and /usr next
to one another, so I could delete both of them and then create a new /
to fill up all the empty space.

>
> >
> > The Rescue CD is mostly for repairing existing systems, which might be
> > what you want, but it's hard to tell from this far away.
> >
> >
>
>  I found that using the rescue CD, there's a LOT of stuff missing from the
> system on the HDD. This includes many standard Linux commands. I'm not sure
> which packages are missing, but with a FC7 CD, I can copy the important
> missing stuff from the CD (like the many things in /usr/bin) to the HDD and
> it should work and I should be able to log in. (One of the things that is
> missing is a shell - any shell, they're all gone.)
>
>  It's interesting to see how much is gone, but yet the system still boots
> into single user mode and the data that is left on the HDD can still be
> accessed via a live or rescue CD.

You might consider attaching  an external USB disk and copying off all
the stuff you want to keep.  Then you can do a complete install of the
new OS, and copy things back.

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Re: Help! Need Fedora CDs or DVD

[Paul G. Allen]

Carl Lowenstein wrote:

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Paul G. Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Carl Lowenstein wrote:



I've already volunteered, off-list.  If I didn't already have such a
DVD in hand, I could produce another in 25 to 30 minutes.  Burned,
byte-checked, and labeled.  Could even make a batch of 3 in about the
same time, but that seems excessive.



 I tried a FC8 Live CD, but it wanted to remove all Linux partitions and
install clean. I can't be doing that as there's data on the drive I don't
want to lose. I'm going to try a FC7 Rescue CD, but I'm not keeping my hopes
up with that. If it fails, I'll be contacting Carl about getting a FC7 and
FC8 DVD (FC7 to fix what I have, and FC8 to update after that).


That is not mandatory.  You have the option of a custom partition
scheme, in which you can choose which partitions to keep and which to
reformat.  Actually I did that myself about 3 hours ago to my spare
computer in the back room.

At the top of the partitioning page, there is a slot that says
something like "remove all Linux partitions" but it can be scrolled to
a few other choices, one of which is custom partition.


I was thinking of using this option(custom partition) with a FC7 Live 
CD. First I'll have to boot with a rescue CD to see which partitions are 
which, and write them down.




The Rescue CD is mostly for repairing existing systems, which might be
what you want, but it's hard to tell from this far away.



I found that using the rescue CD, there's a LOT of stuff missing from 
the system on the HDD. This includes many standard Linux commands. I'm 
not sure which packages are missing, but with a FC7 CD, I can copy the 
important missing stuff from the CD (like the many things in /usr/bin) 
to the HDD and it should work and I should be able to log in. (One of 
the things that is missing is a shell - any shell, they're all gone.)


It's interesting to see how much is gone, but yet the system still boots 
into single user mode and the data that is left on the HDD can still be 
accessed via a live or rescue CD.


PGA
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Re: Help! Need Fedora CDs or DVD

[Carl Lowenstein]

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Paul G. Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Carl Lowenstein wrote:
>
>
> >
> > I've already volunteered, off-list.  If I didn't already have such a
> > DVD in hand, I could produce another in 25 to 30 minutes.  Burned,
> > byte-checked, and labeled.  Could even make a batch of 3 in about the
> > same time, but that seems excessive.
> >
> >
>
>  I tried a FC8 Live CD, but it wanted to remove all Linux partitions and
> install clean. I can't be doing that as there's data on the drive I don't
> want to lose. I'm going to try a FC7 Rescue CD, but I'm not keeping my hopes
> up with that. If it fails, I'll be contacting Carl about getting a FC7 and
> FC8 DVD (FC7 to fix what I have, and FC8 to update after that).

That is not mandatory.  You have the option of a custom partition
scheme, in which you can choose which partitions to keep and which to
reformat.  Actually I did that myself about 3 hours ago to my spare
computer in the back room.

At the top of the partitioning page, there is a slot that says
something like "remove all Linux partitions" but it can be scrolled to
a few other choices, one of which is custom partition.

The Rescue CD is mostly for repairing existing systems, which might be
what you want, but it's hard to tell from this far away.

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Re: Help! Need Fedora CDs or DVD

[Paul G. Allen]

Carl Lowenstein wrote:



I've already volunteered, off-list.  If I didn't already have such a
DVD in hand, I could produce another in 25 to 30 minutes.  Burned,
byte-checked, and labeled.  Could even make a batch of 3 in about the
same time, but that seems excessive.



I tried a FC8 Live CD, but it wanted to remove all Linux partitions and 
install clean. I can't be doing that as there's data on the drive I 
don't want to lose. I'm going to try a FC7 Rescue CD, but I'm not 
keeping my hopes up with that. If it fails, I'll be contacting Carl 
about getting a FC7 and FC8 DVD (FC7 to fix what I have, and FC8 to 
update after that).


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Re: Help! Need Fedora CDs or DVD

[Carl Lowenstein]

On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Lan Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  On Sat, April 12, 2008 8:33 pm, Paul G. Allen wrote:
>  > I can't find my FC7 DVD (probably because I had borrowed it). I do not
>  > have a DVD writer in a working computer, but I do have a CD writer. So
>  > far I have looked on several Fedora mirrors, but have only found ISO's
>  > for DVDs.
>  >
>  > My laptop is FUBAR until I can get my hands on FC7 or FC8 install CDs,
>  > DVD, or CD iso images that I can burn.
>  >
>  > TIA,
>  >
>  > PGA
>  >
>
>  I might have an FC 7 DVD kicking around. If Carl can't help you let me
>  know so I can search for it.

I've already volunteered, off-list.  If I didn't already have such a
DVD in hand, I could produce another in 25 to 30 minutes.  Burned,
byte-checked, and labeled.  Could even make a batch of 3 in about the
same time, but that seems excessive.

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Re: Help! Need Fedora CDs or DVD

[Lan Barnes]

On Sat, April 12, 2008 8:33 pm, Paul G. Allen wrote:
> I can't find my FC7 DVD (probably because I had borrowed it). I do not
> have a DVD writer in a working computer, but I do have a CD writer. So
> far I have looked on several Fedora mirrors, but have only found ISO's
> for DVDs.
>
> My laptop is FUBAR until I can get my hands on FC7 or FC8 install CDs,
> DVD, or CD iso images that I can burn.
>
> TIA,
>
> PGA
>

I might have an FC 7 DVD kicking around. If Carl can't help you let me
know so I can search for it.

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Re: [off-list] Re: Help! Need Fedora CDs or DVD

[Carl Lowenstein]

On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 11:24 PM, Brad Beyenhof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Since F7, only DVD images have been officially distributed. The only
>  CDs I've ever seen are physical media for purchase from some company,
>  not freely downloadable images.

To give away one of my secrets:  the Fedora Unity project produces
Fedora images that are updated every few months with the latest
patches.  The images come with control files for jigdo "Jigsaw
Download".




The advantages of this download system are that partial downloads can
easily be resumed, and ISO images can be updated from previous
downloads.  Also subset ISO images, such as the CDs can be constructed
from the corresponding DVD without any additional download except for
control files.

The only disadvantage I have found is that downloads are distributed
among many repository sites, and a few of the sites are very slow, or
non-responsive.  But after a while that times out and continues from
some other site.

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Re: [off-list] Re: Help! Need Fedora CDs or DVD

[Doug LaRue]

** Reply to message from "Paul G. Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Sun, 13
Apr 2008 03:41:45 -0700

Knoppix has a nice option called "tohd" and it will install the CD filesystem 
image to the harddisk( Windows or Linux ) and then boot from that. This will
leave you CDROM free for use so you can burn CDs/DVDs whatever.

FYI, the first time you run Knoppix and tell it "tohd", it will install and
boot 
that way, subsequent boots from the Knoppix LiveCD would require you
use the "fromhd" option.

When you get the the Knoppix bootprompt, enter "knoppix tohd=/dev/hda1"
or whatever partition you want the "/KNOPPIX" directory created.

Doug



> I wondered why it was marked [off-list] when it was [on-list]. :)
> 
> Update: I tried to D/L a Live CD ISO and burn it. (I found it just 
> before I saw Carl's response to me off-list.) It seemed to burn OK 
> (using a free CD/DVD burner for Windows that I found on the 'net after 
> getting the ISO image), but it failed to work. Could be a fluke bad CD, 
> could be wrong burn speed, could be a bad image, or could be bad burning 
> software (how good could it be since it uses .NET? :) ).
> 
> I figure I'll try one more time and then probably contact Carl if it 
> doesn't work.
> 
> It really is time to fix my other computers (the ones with the DVD 
> burners in them).
> 
> PGA
> 
> Brad Beyenhof wrote:
> > Whoops, I meant that to go directly to Paul. Oh well...
> > 
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Re: [off-list] Re: Help! Need Fedora CDs or DVD

[Paul G. Allen]

I wondered why it was marked [off-list] when it was [on-list]. :)

Update: I tried to D/L a Live CD ISO and burn it. (I found it just 
before I saw Carl's response to me off-list.) It seemed to burn OK 
(using a free CD/DVD burner for Windows that I found on the 'net after 
getting the ISO image), but it failed to work. Could be a fluke bad CD, 
could be wrong burn speed, could be a bad image, or could be bad burning 
software (how good could it be since it uses .NET? :) ).


I figure I'll try one more time and then probably contact Carl if it 
doesn't work.


It really is time to fix my other computers (the ones with the DVD 
burners in them).


PGA

Brad Beyenhof wrote:

Whoops, I meant that to go directly to Paul. Oh well...


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Re: [off-list] Re: Help! Need Fedora CDs or DVD

[Brad Beyenhof]

Whoops, I meant that to go directly to Paul. Oh well...

On 12/04/2008, Brad Beyenhof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 12/04/2008, Paul G. Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > I can't find my FC7 DVD (probably because I had borrowed it). I do not
>  >  have a DVD writer in a working computer, but I do have a CD writer. So
>  >  far I have looked on several Fedora mirrors, but have only found ISO's
>  >  for DVDs.
>
>
> Since F7, only DVD images have been officially distributed. The only
>  CDs I've ever seen are physical media for purchase from some company,
>  not freely downloadable images.
>
>
>  >  My laptop is FUBAR until I can get my hands on FC7 or FC8 install CDs,
>  >  DVD, or CD iso images that I can burn.
>
>
> I've got an F8 DVD lying around somewhere, I think, if you can't find
>  one anywhere else... however, I would suggest first going to Carl. He
>  makes really nice labels and provides the discs for a nominal fee
>  (proceeds go directly to KPLUG, of course).
>
>
>  --
>  Brad Beyenhof   http://augmentedfourth.com
>  Have the courage to be ignorant of a great number of things, in order to
>  avoid the calamity of being ignorant of everything.
>   ~ Sydney Smith, English essayist (1771-1845)
>


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[off-list] Re: Help! Need Fedora CDs or DVD

[Brad Beyenhof]

On 12/04/2008, Paul G. Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can't find my FC7 DVD (probably because I had borrowed it). I do not
>  have a DVD writer in a working computer, but I do have a CD writer. So
>  far I have looked on several Fedora mirrors, but have only found ISO's
>  for DVDs.

Since F7, only DVD images have been officially distributed. The only
CDs I've ever seen are physical media for purchase from some company,
not freely downloadable images.

>  My laptop is FUBAR until I can get my hands on FC7 or FC8 install CDs,
>  DVD, or CD iso images that I can burn.

I've got an F8 DVD lying around somewhere, I think, if you can't find
one anywhere else... however, I would suggest first going to Carl. He
makes really nice labels and provides the discs for a nominal fee
(proceeds go directly to KPLUG, of course).

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avoid the calamity of being ignorant of everything.
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