Re: programming environments, C Lisp (was Re: minimal Unix chat system)

2002-02-26 Thread Dave Long
You might be right that if it were easy to couple tools from different levels of abstraction, it wouldn't be such a big win; but the antecedent in this implication is false, so nothing can be concluded about the truth of the consequent. Too true. That's an area in which we seem to have

Re: minimal Unix chat system

2002-02-24 Thread Kragen Sitaker
Kaushik Sridharan writes: The modern world progresses by an increase in the things that are successfully done ineptly. How old is this idea? It is a profoundly erroneous truism, repeated by all copy books and by eminent people when they are making speeches, that

programming environments, C Lisp (was Re: minimal Unix chat system)

2002-02-24 Thread Kragen Sitaker
Dave Long writes: To my tastes, Lisply written Fortran is no better than Fortranly written Lisp) Lispy Fortran is probably good if you have to write an optimizing compiler or a regular expression engine in Fortran, and Fortranny Lisp is probably good if you're writing an FFT engine. Lisp is

Re: minimal Unix chat system

2002-02-21 Thread Kragen Sitaker
Dave Long writes: a propagation delay averaging about half a second ... which is tail(1)'s fault; if one really cared, and had a usleep(1), another sh read loop would handle output w/o the noticable delay. tail has a -s option which could benefit from accepting floating-point numbers,