KR> Ellison Carbueretor Pricing & Compatibility

2014-03-09 Thread John Martindale
4400rpm static on a turbo charged what?  How inches of manifold pressure
needed to get that?.or do you mean supercharging!!!

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From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of John Bryhan
Sent: Sunday, 9 March 2014 11:13 AM
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Subject: Re: KR> Ellison Carbueretor Pricing & Compatibility

My EFS 3-A feeds a turbo (draw thru as per Ellison), seems to work well.
But I was never able to get the static rpm I thought I should be getting.
Runs great without a prop, revs to 5000. Add a prop - 3500. Before the 
overhaul
I was getting 42-4400 rpm. ..snip




KR> Ellison Carbueretor Pricing & Compatibility

2014-03-08 Thread peter
Dan; Correct! The Posa was the first and was introduced when I was in A 
school. I just o'hauled my ma-4 and called  Ken Faeth in Sacramento 
916-368-1832 for a core. He has boxes of 3's and 4's in various stages of 
disasembly. My favorite used parts place. Peter



You must be confused about the Ellison.  




KR> Ellison Carbueretor Pricing & Compatibility

2014-03-08 Thread Dan Heath
You must be confused about the Ellison.  There is no baffling going on
there.  No needles to worry about.  The Ellison is as close to "plug and
chug" as you will ever get.  What you say is true of the "dribblers", but
the Ellison is anything but that.

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Subject: Re: KR> Ellison Carbueretor Pricing & Compatibility

I'm wondering once again why experimenting with the carb on an aircraft is
an attractive idea. There are MA 3s available for almost nothing in the
aviation Eworld. No experimentation required. The Ellison has been baffling
experimenters since it was introduced in the mid '80s, always looking for
the perfect( or even just a usable) needle profile. Am I out of touch? Peter




EFS-3A is $1,030.00 plus shipping and handling.Please note that we have a
limited number of EFS-3A's in stock and will notbe manufacturing more due to
production costs. 
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KR> Ellison Carbueretor Pricing & Compatibility

2014-03-08 Thread John Bryhan
My EFS 3-A feeds a turbo (draw thru as per Ellison), seems to work well.
But I was never able to get the static rpm I thought I should be getting.
Runs great without a prop, revs to 5000. Add a prop - 3500. Before the 
overhaul
I was getting 42-4400 rpm.  Tried re-pitching the warp drive, tried timing
adjustments (as Jeff probably remembers).
About the only thing I didn't try was manual waste gate - using vacuum from
output side of turbo.
Even though I've kind of retired from working on it, it still nags me...

On 3/8/2014 11:40 AM, Jeff Scott wrote:
> Actually, the Ellison is one of the aftermarket single point fuel injection 
> systems that works well with a proper mixture control and a fuel "spray bar" 
> behind the slide.  The Rotec single point fuel injection system is another 
> that provides acceptable results and is essentially a clone of the Ellison 
> except that the pressure regulator is mounted separately rather than being 
> built as part of the injector frame. (TBI-40-3 for a Corvair, Continental, or 
> small Lycoming and TBI-40-S for the Rotax, Jabiru and VW)
>
> The rest of the TBI units are single point dribbler style.  Posa, Revflo, and 
> Aerocarb depend on the right needle or needle profile and can be difficult to 
> get set up correctly.  I have set up an Aerocarb on a 6 cyl Jabiru configured 
> for our airport at 7000' MSL.  It took a month or two of screwing around with 
> it and test flying with the engine performing at less than 100%. (I was not 
> doing the test flying!)  The Aerocarb had 3 different needle profiles with it 
> and instructions that read like it should be simple to do.  However, fine 
> tuning to get it correct was not simple.  IMHO, test flying carb setups 
> looking for the right combination is asking for disaster, and it came close 
> with this one.
>
> Generally speaking, if you want an overhauled or new MA3-SPA of the right 
> part number (10-4894) for your Corvair, you are likely looking in the 
> neighborhood of $1500.  If you have a good core to trade, it's half of that.  
> If you keep your eyes open, you can find a carb that might be usable, but 
> it's really a crap shoot as to the condition of what you are buying.
>
> One of the less expensive MS carbs that I would think would work well on the 
> Corvairs would be the MA3-A carb (part No 10-3103-01).  This carb was used on 
> numerous variations of the Lycoming O-235 engine.  This carb is not very 
> popular as it does not have an accelerator pump, so for those that like to 
> jam the throttle, the engine may stumble.  However, it does have proper 
> mixture control.  Because it lacks an accelerator pump, it is less expensive 
> to buy, less expensive to overhaul and due to the lack of popularity, can 
> often times be found at bargain prices.  If you have ever flown a Grumman 
> Yankee or 7ECA Citabria you've flown with this carb.
>
> -Jeff Scott
> Los Alamos, NM
>
>
>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: peter
>> Sent: 03/08/14 10:51 AM
>> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
>> Subject: Re: KR> Ellison Carbueretor Pricing & Compatibility
>>
>> I'm wondering once again why experimenting with the carb on an aircraft is 
>> an attractive idea. There are MA 3s available for almost nothing in the 
>> aviation Eworld. No experimentation required. The Ellison has been baffling 
>> experimenters since it was introduced in the mid '80s, always looking for 
>> the perfect( or even just a usable) needle profile. Am I out of touch? Peter
>>   
>>
>>   
>>
>> EFS-3A is $1,030.00 plus shipping and handling.Please note that we have a 
>> limited number of EFS-3A's in stock and will notbe manufacturing more due to 
>> production costs.
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KR> Ellison Carbueretor Pricing & Compatibility

2014-03-08 Thread peter
I'm wondering once again why experimenting with the carb on an aircraft is an 
attractive idea. There are MA 3s available for almost nothing in the aviation 
Eworld. No experimentation required. The Ellison has been baffling 
experimenters since it was introduced in the mid '80s, always looking for the 
perfect( or even just a usable) needle profile. Am I out of touch? Peter




EFS-3A is $1,030.00 plus shipping and handling.Please note that we have a 
limited number of EFS-3A's in stock and will notbe manufacturing more due to 
production costs.