KR> Open Cockpit KR2?

2008-10-12 Thread Charles Burgoon
Is anybody flying a KR2 open cockpit with a partial canopy?  If I seal the back 
off with an extended backrest will it work, and fly right?  I would want it to 
have have interchangeable canopy depending on our miserable Houston summer 
weather.

Chuck


KR> Open Cockpit KR2?

2008-10-12 Thread Phil Matheson
To my limited knowlage, The first KR1 was open cockpit, and the Taylor
monoplane to which many say the KR design came from was open cockpit.

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KR> Open Cockpit KR2?

2008-10-12 Thread D F Lively
Phil:

I saw Ken in his KR1, it had a "bubble" canopy but it hinged to the side
as well.  I also saw one is So. CA when I lived there that was dressed out
to look kike a P-51-- scoop and all.

Don

Phil Matheson wrote:

> To my limited knowlage, The first KR1 was open cockpit, and the Taylor
> monoplane to which many say the KR design came from was open cockpit.
>
> Phillip Matheson
> 0408665880 (cell)
> VHPKR
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KR> Open Cockpit KR2?

2008-10-12 Thread Bob Glidden
Pictures of the KR1 when Ken first finished it show ir open cockpit...

Bob Glidden
Eminence,Indiana
KR2S N181FW (building)
Corvair 110
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> Phil:
>
> I saw Ken in his KR1, it had a "bubble" canopy but it hinged to the side
> as well.  I also saw one is So. CA when I lived there that was dressed out
> to look kike a P-51-- scoop and all.
>
> Don
>
> Phil Matheson wrote:
>
>> To my limited knowlage, The first KR1 was open cockpit, and the Taylor
>> monoplane to which many say the KR design came from was open cockpit.
>>
>> Phillip Matheson
>> 0408665880 (cell)
>> VHPKR
>> Australia.
>> mathes...@dodo.com.au
>> NEW WEB PAGE
>> www.philskr2.50megs.com
>>
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>> OLD WEB PAGE
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KR> Open Cockpit KR2?

2008-10-12 Thread Donald Reid
At 07:41 PM 7/15/2006, you wrote:
>Is anybody flying a KR2 open cockpit with a partial canopy?  If I 
>seal the back off with an extended backrest will it work, and fly 
>right?  I would want it to have have interchangeable canopy 
>depending on our miserable Houston summer weather.

Go to http://aerofoilengineering.com/KR/sportaviation/kr_SA.htm
and select the miscellaneous photos link.  There is a photo of an 
open cockpit KR1



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KR> Open Cockpit KR2?

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Langford
Don Lively wrote:

> I saw Ken in his KR1, it had a "bubble" canopy but it hinged to the side
> as well.

Yes Don, but it also flew as an open cockpit (started out that way, I 
think), as shown at http://www.krnet.org/krs/n1436.jpg ...

Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com
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KR> Open Cockpit KR2?

2008-10-12 Thread D F Lively
Mark:

Could be

Don
  

Mark Langford wrote:

> Don Lively wrote:
>
> > I saw Ken in his KR1, it had a "bubble" canopy but it hinged to the side
> > as well.
>
> Yes Don, but it also flew as an open cockpit (started out that way, I
> think), as shown at http://www.krnet.org/krs/n1436.jpg ...
>
> Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
> see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com
> email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
>
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KR> Open Cockpit KR2?/ Ken's Crash

2008-10-12 Thread Phil Matheson
Don
Thanks for showing me the site.
The very first Photo is of Kens open Cockpit KR1
Some really good photo's and a reprt on Kens Crash.

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KR> Open Cockpit KR2?

2008-10-12 Thread Barry Kruyssen
Hi 

Before anyone considers an open cockpit please read the accidents report
that Mark collated at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/KRaccidents.doc (just
search the document for "canopy").
The are 4 accident from canopies coming open in flight, 3 are Fatal.  It
appears that aerodynamics to the tail feathers may be interrupted.  With the
right windshield it may be OK, but not for me :-)


Regards
Barry Kruyssen
Cairns, Australia
k...@bigpond.com
http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm




KR> Open Cockpit KR2?

2008-10-12 Thread Donald Reid
At 06:09 PM 7/17/2006, you wrote:
>Hi
>
>Before anyone considers an open cockpit please read the accidents report
>that Mark collated at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/KRaccidents.doc (just
>search the document for "canopy").
>The are 4 accident from canopies coming open in flight, 3 are Fatal.  It
>appears that aerodynamics to the tail feathers may be interrupted.  With the
>right windshield it may be OK, but not for me :-)

There is no comparison between a cockpit coming open in flight versus 
an open cockpit KR.  When a side-hinged cockpit comes open, the 
airflow is significantly altered, not to mention the pilot's reaction 
to stop flying the plane and try and close the cockpit.  There have 
been at least two open cockpit KRs.



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KR> Open Cockpit KR2?

2008-10-12 Thread Ed Janssen
Barry,

I doubt if there's anything inherently wrong with building an open cockpit
configuration (several have been built, mostly KR-1s I believe) of a KR
relative to aerodynamics.  A canopy which suddenly comes open in flight
presents quite a different problem.

Ed

Ed Janssen
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Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 5:09 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Open Cockpit KR2?


> Hi
>
> Before anyone considers an open cockpit please read the accidents report
> that Mark collated at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/KRaccidents.doc
(just
> search the document for "canopy").
> The are 4 accident from canopies coming open in flight, 3 are Fatal.  It
> appears that aerodynamics to the tail feathers may be interrupted.  With
the
> right windshield it may be OK, but not for me :-)
>
>
> Regards
> Barry Kruyssen
> Cairns, Australia
> k...@bigpond.com
> http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm
>
>
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KR> Open Cockpit KR2?

2008-10-12 Thread D F Lively
nrtters:

I can see how a canopy separating from a KR might severely damage the tail
fethers and if not the drag of the "as designed" version on one side of the
craft could certainly cause a big inbalanced drag problem.

Don
  

Ed Janssen wrote:

> Barry,
>
> I doubt if there's anything inherently wrong with building an open cockpit
> configuration (several have been built, mostly KR-1s I believe) of a KR
> relative to aerodynamics.  A canopy which suddenly comes open in flight
> presents quite a different problem.
>
> Ed
>
> Ed Janssen
> mailto:ejans...@chipsnet.com
> - Original Message -
> From: "Barry Kruyssen" <k...@bigpond.com>
> To: "'KRnet'" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 5:09 PM
> Subject: RE: KR> Open Cockpit KR2?
>
> > Hi
> >
> > Before anyone considers an open cockpit please read the accidents report
> > that Mark collated at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/KRaccidents.doc
> (just
> > search the document for "canopy").
> > The are 4 accident from canopies coming open in flight, 3 are Fatal.  It
> > appears that aerodynamics to the tail feathers may be interrupted.  With
> the
> > right windshield it may be OK, but not for me :-)
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Barry Kruyssen
> > Cairns, Australia
> > k...@bigpond.com
> > http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm
> >
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