RE: Réf. : KR> engine
OK Netters, You can get a type 1 case in aluminum, weighs a little more than the magnesium original, and if you add a PSRU can as much HP as the type 4 and Corvair. So how come you don't see one on a KR? Fred Johnson Reno, NV
Re: Réf. : KR> engine
OK, I'll bite, how come? - Original Message - From: "Fred Johnson" <f...@renotruss.com> To: "'KRnet'" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:41 AM Subject: RE: Réf. : KR> engine > OK Netters, > > You can get a type 1 case in aluminum, weighs a little more than the > magnesium original, and if you add a PSRU you can get as much HP as the > type 4 > and Corvair. > > So how come you don't see one on a KR? > > Fred Johnson > Reno, NV > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
Re: Réf. : KR> engine
You can get a type 1 case in aluminum Why not just use the type 4. Have a look at VW engines type 4 with PSRU http://www.vw-engines.com/ Phil Matheson VH-PKR mathes...@dodo.com.au 0358833588 Australia Web Page http://www.philskr2.50megs.com/ See VW Engines http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com/
Re: Réf. : KR> engine
Good type 4 engine cases are getting to be hard to find. I don't know of anyone that is still making them. I have 2, but then I would think good select Corvair engines are also but the type 1 cases in aluminum can be bought brand new yet today and as far as the PSRU unit? I didn't see a price but it just screams money and that's what most KR builders are trying to avoid. I still think Steve Bennett at Great Plain's Aircraft has the best to offer at an (affordable) price . If I were to have to build another firewall forward again, it would be the 2180 V W with the rear drive and I'd leave it to Steve to build it. He guarantee's it. There is a great need for a larger engine, anyone want to tool up? Just my viewpoint. Have a great day. - Original Message - From: "Phil Matheson" <mathes...@dodo.com.au> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:45 PM Subject: Re: Réf. : KR> engine > You can get a type 1 case in aluminum > > Why not just use the type 4. > > Have a look at VW engines type 4 with PSRU > http://www.vw-engines.com/ > > Phil Matheson > VH-PKR > mathes...@dodo.com.au > 0358833588 > Australia > Web Page > http://www.philskr2.50megs.com/ > See VW Engines > http://www.vw-engines.com/ > www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
RE: Réf. : KR> engine
How about a six cylinder VW Fred Johnson Reno, NV
RE: Réf. : KR> engine
...and that brings to mind the R3000 VW. What is the status of this engine. Does anyone know of an application in Beta use? 10 are mentioned under review in the test program and at 10Gs it is still cheaper than some 100hp offerings. Contact had a nice write up then nothing since... What's up? Gary Ontario Canada -Original Message- How about a six cylinder VW Fred Johnson Reno, NV ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
Fw: Réf. : KR> engine horsepower vs weight
KR club, Doesn't horespower share a close relationship to weight? It seems like some people are willing to spend so much money on horsepower to increase speed that engines are pushed to limits that could compromise safety. Wouldn't Time and money be better well spent trying to minimize weight instead of throwing the largest motor I could afford on the firewall. Look up Mike Arnold on google, 440 lb airplane going 213 mph on a 65hp rotax. He is an average guy that built his own design based soley on streamlining his plane to near perfection. On his site he offers videos of his plane. I got suckered into buying one of his videos about the composite construction he used. I was really happy with the video. By the way, his canopy is very, very streamlined. Thanks to everyone who answered my questions on fuselage weight. Mike Johnson ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
Re: Réf. : KR> engine
Randy I'm very interested in the details of your EJ22 install. I'm looking at installing an EJ22Turbo (target HP 210) on my KR2XS and I was looking into cooling, mounting and cowling issues. Cheers. Pete. stranged...@dodo.com.au ---Original Message--- From: Randy Smith List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: 10/27/06 12:30:46 To: KRnet Subject: Re: Réf. : KR> engine I have a Subaru EJ22 150hp. It cruise at 160mph and I topped out at the flyin at 235mph. It is heavy,but with all that power it really doesn't matter. I am not sure how heavy the engine is because the plane was over built by Less Palmer. I have a E-81 with a re drive in my hanger and when I pulled it off of Bud Wilsons KR-2 I weighed it with all components but antifreeze and it weighed in at about 225lbs. This engine is for sale with redrive ready to mount including motor mount with nose gear bracket If anyone is interested. --- "Myron (Dan) Freeman" <mfreem...@indy.rr.com> wrote: > Good type 4 engine cases are getting to be hard to > find. I don't know of > anyone that is still making them. I have 2, but then > I would think good > select Corvair engines are also but the type 1 cases > in aluminum can be > bought brand new yet today and as far as the PSRU > unit? I didn't see a price > but it just screams money and that's what most KR > builders are trying to > avoid. I still think Steve Bennett at Great Plain's > Aircraft has the best to > offer at an (affordable) price . If I were to have > to build another firewall > forward again, it would be the 2180 V W with the > rear drive and I'd leave it > to Steve to build it. He guarantee's it. > > There is a great need for a larger engine, anyone > want to tool up? > > Just my viewpoint. Have a great day. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Phil Matheson" <mathes...@dodo.com.au> > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:45 PM > Subject: Re: Réf. : KR> engine > > > > You can get a type 1 case in aluminum > > > > Why not just use the type 4. > > > > Have a look at VW engines type 4 with PSRU > > http://www.vw-engines.com/ > > > > Phil Matheson > > VH-PKR > > mathes...@dodo.com.au > > 0358833588 > > Australia > > Web Page > > http://www.philskr2.50megs.com/ > > See VW Engines > > http://www.vw-engines.com/ > > www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ > > > > > > > > ___ > > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > krnet-le...@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
Re: Fw: Réf. : KR> engine horsepower vs weight
I tend to agree as well, I'll be doing as much as I can to save weight on my airframe as I can but I'm also chasing some speed ;) I can also sum up my desire for HP in two words... Density Altitude. In a country where +100°F is usual and relatives at 3000ft altitudes It's nice to have a few HP to help you on your way ---Original Message--- From: Randy Smith List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: 10/27/06 13:18:07 To: KRnet Subject: Re: Fw: Réf. : KR> engine horsepower vs weight Your right about weight. But Les was one of those that could not leave well enough along. If 2 layers of glass is good why not 3. He new he was going to use a big motor and land on a lot of grass. So he over built to help it along and as we all know add one thing and it changes another. The next thing you know it is over weight. Hard to go back after the fact. If you want an all terrain plane you have to have bigger tires, bigger brakes,bigger and longer gear more fuel Then some want a nose gear(how much does that weigh) the list goes on an on. --- Mike johnson <kr...@yahoo.com> wrote: > KR club, > Doesn't horespower share a close relationship to > weight? It seems like some people are willing to > spend so much money on horsepower to increase speed > that engines are pushed to limits > that could compromise safety. > > Wouldn't Time and money be better well spent trying > to minimize weight instead of throwing the > largest motor I could afford on the firewall. Look > up Mike Arnold on google, 440 lb airplane > going 213 mph on a 65hp rotax. He is an average guy > that built his own design based soley on > streamlining his plane to near perfection. On his > site he offers videos of his plane. I got suckered > into buying one of his videos about the composite > construction he used. I was really happy with the > video. By the way, his canopy is very, very > streamlined. > > Thanks to everyone who answered my questions on > fuselage weight. Mike Johnson > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
Fw: Fw: Réf. : KR> engine horsepower vs weight
Yeh, I see what ya mean. Mike J. - Forwarded Message From: StRaNgEdAyS <stranged...@dodo.com.au> To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:30:27 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Réf. : KR> engine horsepower vs weight I tend to agree as well, I'll be doing as much as I can to save weight on my airframe as I can but I'm also chasing some speed ;) I can also sum up my desire for HP in two words... Density Altitude. In a country where +100°F is usual and relatives at 3000ft altitudes It's nice to have a few HP to help you on your way ---Original Message--- From: Randy Smith List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: 10/27/06 13:18:07 To: KRnet Subject: Re: Fw: Réf. : KR> engine horsepower vs weight Your right about weight. But Les was one of those that could not leave well enough along. If 2 layers of glass is good why not 3. He new he was going to use a big motor and land on a lot of grass. So he over built to help it along and as we all know add one thing and it changes another. The next thing you know it is over weight. Hard to go back after the fact. If you want an all terrain plane you have to have bigger tires, bigger brakes,bigger and longer gear more fuel Then some want a nose gear(how much does that weigh) the list goes on an on. --- Mike johnson <kr...@yahoo.com> wrote: > KR club, > Doesn't horespower share a close relationship to > weight? It seems like some people are willing to > spend so much money on horsepower to increase speed > that engines are pushed to limits > that could compromise safety. > > Wouldn't Time and money be better well spent trying > to minimize weight instead of throwing the > largest motor I could afford on the firewall. Look > up Mike Arnold on google, 440 lb airplane > going 213 mph on a 65hp rotax. He is an average guy > that built his own design based soley on > streamlining his plane to near perfection. On his > site he offers videos of his plane. I got suckered > into buying one of his videos about the composite > construction he used. I was really happy with the > video. By the way, his canopy is very, very > streamlined. > > Thanks to everyone who answered my questions on > fuselage weight. Mike Johnson > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
