Fw: Re: KR> O2 Requirements

2009-08-08 Thread Tony Wright
Several years ago, I went through the altitude chamber at Tyndall AFB (the 
one in the video that Darren linked to).  It was eye opening.  As pilots, we 
are given the opportunity to use these chambers through an agreement with 
the military and the FAA.  All that is required is that you contact the FAA 
they will let you know of dates that the cambers are available.  There are 
no fees and you use their equipment.  The one in Dayton, OH was supposed to 
be usable sometime this year.  There are about 8 throughout the country. I 
drove almost 1000 miles  and made a mini vacation out of it.  The training 
started at 8:00 am and lasted all day (5:00 pm).  The wife enjoyed Panama 
City's beach, while I was learning my hypoxia symptoms.   If you are going 
to fly over 1' I recommend going through this training.  IT'S FREE!!! 
and you get the high altitude endorsement.  And if I didn't mention it, it 
is very affordable.

Tony Wright



- Original Message - 
From: "Darren Crompton" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: KR> O2 Requirements


As a former flight attendant for 15 years, our annual emergency revalidation
instructors drilled into us to recognise the onset of mild, moderate and
sever hypoxia.
There are many videos on youtube which show these symptoms in controlled
environments and while some have an element of humor about them, there are
those that also demonstrate real life tragic outcomes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXdxFT6lINw&feature=fvsr


Be careful friends.
-- 
Darren Crompton
AUSTRALIA

My web site: www.kr-2s.com
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Fw: Re: KR> O2 Requirements

2009-08-07 Thread Darren Crompton
As a former flight attendant for 15 years, our annual emergency revalidation
instructors drilled into us to recognise the onset of mild, moderate and
sever hypoxia.
There are many videos on youtube which show these symptoms in controlled
environments and while some have an element of humor about them, there are
those that also demonstrate real life tragic outcomes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXdxFT6lINw&feature=fvsr


Be careful friends.
-- 
Darren Crompton
AUSTRALIA

My web site: www.kr-2s.com


Fw: Re: KR> O2 Requirements

2009-08-07 Thread Sal Leone
Concerning altitude and oxygen requirement.
 
40 years ago my friend with an Aronica Champ and me with my Luscombe Silvaire 
flew at about 12500 feet over the mountains from Idaho to Utah.  I didn't 
realize it the time why I felt happy and why I wanted to scare my friend by 
diving my airplane on him.  I was also a smoker.  Years later at a military 
altitude chamber school I was told that I was getting hypoxia and should have 
had O2.
 
In 2001 we flew a Taylorcraft from Utah to Oshkosh and I got air sick over 
Whyoming.  Living at sea level in California and then going to about 9000 feet 
and also a "little" older and a "little" heavier did it. I should have had O2.
 
Sal Leone   

--- On Fri, 8/7/09, jack.cooper2009  wrote:


From: jack.cooper2009 
Subject: Re: KR> O2 Requirements
To: "KRnet" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 3:25 PM




In Army flight school after a course in altitude physiology, we went into an 
altitude chamber. I don't remember what altitude we were at but our assignment 
was to write our name over and over and to put our mask on when we felt 
hypoxia's. I remember thinking I should put a mask on then thought to myself, I 
feel fine. Next thing I knew the instructor was holding a mask on my face. You 
could tell from my hand writing that I was getting very hypoxic but the 
euphoric feeling was telling me I was OK. 12500 is my service ceiling without 
oxygen, maybe a little higher for short periods of time. 



Jack Cooper 


- Original Message - 
From: "glenda mcelwee"  
To: "KRnet"  
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 12:51:16 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: KR> O2 Requirements 

 The military requirements for oxygen are more strict than the FAA's 
requirements.  Military pilots are younger and in better physical shape that 
the average civilian pilot.  If they need oxygen, it's a good idea for us as 
well. 

     Each individual is affected differently by the lack of sufficient oxygen.  
Take a High Altitude Physiology Course such as offered by the FAA in Oklahoma 
City or The one at  
the Aviation Physiology Training Unit at Tyndall AFB in Florida. ( See my web 
page: 
 http://www.awesometrvl.com/high_altitude_flight_physiology.htm ) 

 In a training course, each person gets to see the effects of oxygen 
deprivation on themselves.  Ability to do simple math and reasoning problems, 
color blindness, loss of coordination, etc..  It will make you a believer in 
oxygen systems. 

Glenda 



--- On Thu, 8/6/09, Teate, Stephen  wrote: 

From: Teate, Stephen  
Subject: KR> O2 Requirements 
To: "KRnet"  
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 11:34 AM 

I always heard the story of how the FAA came up with the requirements 
for supplemental oxygen being a middle aged DC-3 crew that was 
"observed" during flight at altitude. I can't help but picture a couple 




       
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