KR> 'ire" on the list?
Bravo Mark! The net is supposed to be an avenue of learning and sharing, not political, nor a social network (though it can get you to meet some very good folk). The point is it is a place to share info, if you don't like what's being shared put your two cents, but don't get bent out of shape because some one has a DIFFERENT idea than yours. Just because one thinks their idea is great doesn't mean someone else's isn't either. Just take the information here for what it is, information. And that's the point. Ego's need to be checked at the door guys. Fred Johnson Reno, NV Langford wrote: I consider a flame that is in direct violation of the rules of this list: "11) Try not to take things personally. We're all here to help each other. There are usually several ways to take comments. Always try to pick the "nicest" interpretation, rather than trying to read animousity into a post. It's a lot easier to just ignore a snide comment and let it slide. Try to avoid "having the last word".
KR> 'ire" on the list?
-- Original Message -- From: Richard Hasbrook To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> 'ire" on the list? List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 05:36:43 -0500 Mark, Not to fuel this further, but rather to cool it down some... or try. ---Rest of post deleted- Richard, FWIW, I would fly up to "Lake of the Woods" from NM for the gathering. I can't imagine the other guys from the South, Midwest, or Southeast would have to fly any farther than me. I suspect some of them are tired of only flying 2 hours to the gathering. Personally, I though Northern MN was a great idea. Don't be so quick to read too much into some of the comments as they may not necessarily represent anyone other than themselves. -Jeff Scott Los Alamos, NM Be more successful with these great CRM solutions. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTL9gbYAQUw42QpVwiH88cNSczzcSt4984CwpbbJ4zqwJJG7Rh7YoY/
KR> 'ire" on the list?
Mark, Not to fuel this further, but rather to cool it down some... or try. The offer was NOT canceled because of anything you said. The offer was canceled because of what was NOT said when requesting location offers. Below is from your original post. I do not see anywhere in your "Requisites" that the place "offered" , had to be centrally located. Only a request for Volunteers. Due to incomplete information from the start, I felt it better to cancel the offer for the betterment of the group. Simple as that!! Personally, I do not understand totally why you dont just re-visit old convention sites. You already have your foot in the Door there, and know what is in the area. I think in the future, I will only be sitting on the side as I have in the past and reading the posts unless asked. There are a bunch of good folks on here, and lots of great information. As most know that have read any of my previous posts, I am also the owner of the KR2_Sport_Plane Group on Yahoo. I will be sticking pretty much to that group in the future unless asked about something. Take Care, Dick Salol, MN *So here's what I'm asking. Would somebody please volunteer to host the Gathering NEXT year? I can't do it because my airport is "private" and it's not legal to fly in if you are not an owner (or part owner, as in stockholder). Wayne from Mississippi volunteered to host it a few years ago (twice), but died before we allowed him to do it. I'm sure there are others who would like the opportunity to put their airport on the KR map. The requisites are that the airport has to be uncontrolled (or the controller is blind and deaf), somewhat out of town so the FBO doesn't get alot of complaints or has good neighbors, food has to be brought in (a big grille and burgers will work), someplace for the banquet is good (although I've enjoyed the ones in the hangar at Pine Bluff and Mount Vernon), inside storage at night for the KR's is a big plus, and the host has to do all of the organization. Support from an EAA chapter would be helpful, and local church or high school band groups often have fund-raising efforts that will do the cooking for you. H...I may have just killed it right there! But it never hurts to dream. * Mark Langford wrote: > > > Why is it that folks seem to be looking for a reason to get irritated with > others? Richard Hasbrook got all bent out of shape because I didn't thank > the folks who'd volunteered to host the Gathering around the perimeter of > the country. There again, I didn't say "this is a really stupid idea", I > just pointed out that those places were away from the majority of people in > the country, and a lot further than many folks would want to travel. He > took that as a direct slap in the face, got mad, cancelled his offer, and > stomped off steaming, and rescinded his inviation. > > . > > Mark Langford > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > website at http://www.N56ML.com > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > >
KR> 'ire" on the list?
Scott Watts wrote: > Geez Mark, Lighten up. When you said,? I find it interesting that > you're building your own composite airplane, with composite spars > which you apparently designed, and you're worried about the > spinner...? I was a bit surprised at your ire. I was just being > dramatic, tongue in cheek, when I said, ?do not trust myself > fabricating a part that is required to spin thousands of times a > minute.? Much that same as you when you said,? I'm also reluctant to > give myself the opportunity to kill any teenagers other than my own.? Geez, Scott. I'd think it's you that needs to lighten up. All I said was "I find it interesting". Originally I'd written "I find it amusing...", but didn't want anybody to take it the wrong way. The truth is, I do find it amusing! I don't see any "ire" there at all! Am I not allowed to read something, smile, and write a similar good natured comment back that I took note of the fact that you'd build your own composite spars but said out loud on the list that "I'd like to get your same look, but do not trust myself fabricating a part that is required to spin thousands of times a minute." I don't know of but one way to take that, but I didn't light into you, just mentioned that it was "interesting". I'm not allowed to say things are interesting anymore either? I was trying to point out that if you could build your own composite airplane, complete with composite spar, that I thought you could build your own spinner? I'm sorry, but I don't see a problem with that. When I said "I'm also reluctant to give myself the opportunity to kill any teenagers other than my own.?, I absolutely meant exactly what I said. Every time we fly, we have that opportunity. Yes, I'm a chicken and guilty of not spreading the gospel of Experimental aviation, but I'd rather not have my family reduced to pauper status after being sued by the parents. I've seen it happen too many times for far less reasons, and very close to home. Why is it that folks seem to be looking for a reason to get irritated with others? Richard Hasbrook got all bent out of shape because I didn't thank the folks who'd volunteered to host the Gathering around the perimeter of the country. There again, I didn't say "this is a really stupid idea", I just pointed out that those places were away from the majority of people in the country, and a lot further than many folks would want to travel. He took that as a direct slap in the face, got mad, cancelled his offer, and stomped off steaming, and rescinded his inviation. My exact words were "So that's it? California, New Hampshire, or South Carolina? The far extremes of the country? I'm sure those places are great, but it'd be nice if the location was a little more convenient to the majority of attendees. Nobody else closer to the middle of the country is interested in hosting the Gathering? Otherwise, all three of these places sound good enough for me." OK, I didn't say "THANKS!". Shoot me. Bobby Burrington also got a burr under his saddle over that, with "But you gotta remember most of these guys only fly circles around their home field on sundays and the farthest cross country they do is the last tree line you can see from the tower. If they had to use a chart or do flight planning for REAL cross country, they would be lost and scared and would never make it to your gathering anyway !." Now I guess I could have taken this one of two waysone is this guy's really mad, he has the mental maturity of a ten year old, and he's lashing out at me and the others who mentioned that California was perhaps not the best place to have the national Gathering. Or I could have looked at it as far-out joking that nobody would take seriously. I'm still not real sure which way to take it, but I have a feeling I know. But since I'm not sure, I didn't comment at all. I will say that it LOOKED like a direct attempt to belittle several other list members, and as such I consider a flame that is in direct violation of the rules of this list: "11) Try not to take things personally. We're all here to help each other. There are usually several ways to take comments. Always try to pick the "nicest" interpretation, rather than trying to read animousity into a post. It's a lot easier to just ignore a snide comment and let it slide. Try to avoid "having the last word". This rule comes from the KRNetiquette page at http://www.krnet.org/info.html . I think we would do well to try to take the "nice" interpretation of others posts, while not trying to find reasons to be irritated with others. We need each other for support. Lets not run each other off and ruin it for everybody... Mark Langford N56ML "at" hiwaay.net website at http://www.N56ML.com
