KR> Stratus ADS-B with iFly 720?

2015-05-04 Thread n357cj

Sorry - i was not clear, I meant the weather app that is on the Ifly App and 
nothing to do with Stratus or any other ADS-B.I'm sure they are not the same 
animal.
Joe
- Original Message -
From: "Jeff Scott via KRnet" 
To: krnet at list.krnet.org
Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2015 5:35:48 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Stratus ADS-B with iFly 720?




>>That's kind of a harsh assessment of the weather app.  My observation is that 
>>it works pretty well.   



KR> Stratus ADS-B with iFly 720?

2015-05-03 Thread Jeff Scott

> Mark,
> I can't help with most of that stuff but the Ifly app is dissappointing at 
> best. I was sitting in light rain(but steady) and the closest rain that it 
> showed on the map was a good 25 miles away. It also does not pick up freezing 
> rain nor snow. The weather protion of the Ifly app is useless for our purpose 
> altough the rest of the navigation is fine and like youmentioned is pretty 
> intuitive.I also put that same question out a few weeks ago if the ADS-B 
> weather picked up to the definition that we are accustom to on the XM 
> weather. Jeff Scott was the only person to answer and he did not really know 
> how well the weather is depicted 
> Joe
> 

That's kind of a harsh assessment of the weather app.  My observation is that 
it works pretty well.  What I said I didn't know is how snow and freezing rain 
show up, as to whether they are painted blue or green.  The weather radar 
depictions aren't native to iFly.  They are native to what is being broadcast 
by the ADS-B tower, so that's what gets painted on the screen.  There's a lot 
more to weather than just the weather radar app.  For specific conditions, 
select the weather at the nearest reporting airport and that will give you 
winds, barometer, cloud cover, ceiling, precip, and type of precip.  

However, the weather conditions at a nearby airport using ADS-B are often times 
quite stale.  Once you pick up a weather report for an airport, often times it 
doesn't get updated for up to an hour.  Again, that is a function of ADS-B, not 
the iFly app.

One of the interesting aspects of the FIS-B service is that it often times 
doesn't do much if there isn't any significant weather in the area.  I often 
times find that the ADS-B tower simply doesn't show up or the weather updates 
are really slow and stale.  But if there is significant weather in the area, 
like thunderstorms, the FIS-B service wakes up and starts streaming broadcasts. 
 Typically when there is a thunderstorm in the area, I can suddenly receive the 
FIS-B service when sitting on the ground in Santa Fe or Los Alamos, and the 
radar updates are typically at 3 minute intervals and highly accurate.  This 
seems to be true regardless of whether I'm in the plane with ADS-B out or the 
one that has FIS-B receive only.

One of the disappointments of the FIS-B service is that they are not including 
TFR data, even though you'll see the FAA repeatedly stating that FIS-B does 
include TFR data.

-Jeff Scott




KR> Stratus ADS-B with iFly 720?

2015-05-03 Thread n357cj
Mark,
I can't help with most of that stuff but the Ifly app is dissappointing at 
best. I was sitting in light rain(but steady) and the closest rain that it 
showed on the map was a good 25 miles away. It also does not pick up freezing 
rain nor snow. The weather protion of the Ifly app is useless for our purpose 
altough the rest of the navigation is fine and like youmentioned is pretty 
intuitive.I also put that same question out a few weeks ago if the ADS-B 
weather picked up to the definition that we are accustom to on the XM weather. 
Jeff Scott was the only person to answer and he did not really know how well 
the weather is depicted 
Joe

- Original Message -
From: "Mark Langford via KRnet" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2015 9:48:55 PM
Subject: KR> Stratus ADS-B with iFly 720?

KRnetHeads,

Anybody know if the iFly 720 will work with a Stratus 2 ADS-B?  Their 
website says it works with the Stratus "Gen 1 Beta", which seems odd, 
but that info is rather dated information.  I'll call Monday and ask, 
but I'm curious if anybody's used the Stratus 2 with the 720.  Despite 
having a fancy MGL iEFIS touchscreen in front of my face, the iFly 720 
has become my favorite navigation tool. It's dirt simple, intuitively 
obvious, and a very well thought out interface.  I figured out how to 
enter Lake Parker arrival GPS coordinates into the 720 in about a 
minute...an hour later I was still trying to get the same coordinates 
into the MGL iEFIS...and never got there!

  Picking my way through all the weather on the way back from SNF 
convinced me to 1) kiss the ground when I finally landed, and 2) buy an 
ADS-B so I could see the rain next time!  I let my XM subscription lapse 
long ago...philosophically opposed to paying $30 a month for that, 
especially with the flaky (5 pound) laptop interface.

I borrowed a Stratus 2 for the Chino trip and was duly impressed on 
iPhone and iPad with Foreflight.  It's really nice to see not just 
weather and traffic, but airport AWOS info realtime.  This can be a 
life-saver when it comes to choosing the airport you want to land at 
during high-wind situations.  The beauty of an iPAD is that if yours 
croaks, you can borrow or buy a new one and be back online in a day.  If 
your fancy EFIS croaks, you may be down for a month waiting for a repair 
or replacement.

Steam gauges do have their appeal as well...somebody at the airport is 
bound to have an ASI or altimeter you can borrow for a few days, but not 
your particular brand of EFIS while it's "back for repair".

  I'm rapidly regressing to the thought of the good old reliable Grand 
Rapids EIS for engine monitoring, iFly 720 for navigation, and iPAD with 
Foreflight with ADSB for redundancy.  And of course, the iFLY app can be 
run on the iPAD without the dedicated box, so now we're talking really 
inexpensive situational awareness.  The MGL iEFIS is sorely lacking in 
engine and flight data logging capability through the SD card, among 
many other things, such as documentation...

Planning for McMinnville...
-- 
Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
http://www.n56ml.com


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KR> Stratus ADS-B with iFly 720?

2015-05-02 Thread Mark Langford
KRnetHeads,

Anybody know if the iFly 720 will work with a Stratus 2 ADS-B?  Their 
website says it works with the Stratus "Gen 1 Beta", which seems odd, 
but that info is rather dated information.  I'll call Monday and ask, 
but I'm curious if anybody's used the Stratus 2 with the 720.  Despite 
having a fancy MGL iEFIS touchscreen in front of my face, the iFly 720 
has become my favorite navigation tool. It's dirt simple, intuitively 
obvious, and a very well thought out interface.  I figured out how to 
enter Lake Parker arrival GPS coordinates into the 720 in about a 
minute...an hour later I was still trying to get the same coordinates 
into the MGL iEFIS...and never got there!

  Picking my way through all the weather on the way back from SNF 
convinced me to 1) kiss the ground when I finally landed, and 2) buy an 
ADS-B so I could see the rain next time!  I let my XM subscription lapse 
long ago...philosophically opposed to paying $30 a month for that, 
especially with the flaky (5 pound) laptop interface.

I borrowed a Stratus 2 for the Chino trip and was duly impressed on 
iPhone and iPad with Foreflight.  It's really nice to see not just 
weather and traffic, but airport AWOS info realtime.  This can be a 
life-saver when it comes to choosing the airport you want to land at 
during high-wind situations.  The beauty of an iPAD is that if yours 
croaks, you can borrow or buy a new one and be back online in a day.  If 
your fancy EFIS croaks, you may be down for a month waiting for a repair 
or replacement.

Steam gauges do have their appeal as well...somebody at the airport is 
bound to have an ASI or altimeter you can borrow for a few days, but not 
your particular brand of EFIS while it's "back for repair".

  I'm rapidly regressing to the thought of the good old reliable Grand 
Rapids EIS for engine monitoring, iFly 720 for navigation, and iPAD with 
Foreflight with ADSB for redundancy.  And of course, the iFLY app can be 
run on the iPAD without the dedicated box, so now we're talking really 
inexpensive situational awareness.  The MGL iEFIS is sorely lacking in 
engine and flight data logging capability through the SD card, among 
many other things, such as documentation...

Planning for McMinnville...
-- 
Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
http://www.n56ml.com