[Bug 1226962] Re: Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout

2017-04-23 Thread Simos Xenitellis 
** Description changed:

- New keyboard layout changer in Ubuntu 13.10 introduce  old-new bug. Any 
system or application hotkey witch use char (for example: ctrl+alt+t for 
terminal or ctrl+t for new tab in browser) become unfunctional when selected 
non-latin keyboard layout.
- Hotkeys with F1-12, numbers and other non-character buttons works perfectly.
+ Keyboard shortcuts are key combinations like Alt+F (usually opens the
+ File menu) and Ctrl+O (usually opens the File→Open... dialog box).
  
- Window manager hotkeys not affected by this bug. All hotkeys in system
- parameters->keyboard->hotkeys->windows works perfect with any keyboard
- layout.
+ There is an issue with non-latin keyboard layouts that the keys under F or O 
(for Alt+F and Ctrl+O respectively) would correspond to some other character.
+ What should happen then? There is some smart functionality (at least in the 
GTK+ library) that when we press a shortcut, it will try to make Alt+F or 
Ctrl+O work, even if the active keyboard layout is not English.
  
- Workaround for some system hotkeys and two layouts (english and non-
- latin): rebind all hotkeys in your local layout. For example instead of
- ctrl+alt+t use ctrl+alt+τ (greek tau). That hotkey still work with
- english layout.  If you use english and two different non-latin layouts
- this workaround helps only with one of them.
+ For this smart functionality to work, it requires us to have as first 
keyboard layout the English (en) layout. Then, GTK+ will be able to
+ check whether the shortcut makes sense for English, and if so, will run it.
+ All that even if the active layout is Greek or Russian or something else. 
  
+ This report has over 300 comments and these comments include all sort of 
corner cases that indeed shortcuts do not work. In general, shortcuts work,
+ but in specific cases there are issues that need to be fixed.
  
- Dear Ubuntu users and developers! 
- Please include the following information to your comment about non-latin 
shortcuts problems:
- 1. What Ubuntu version do you have (Ubuntu 13.10, Ubuntu 13.10 GNOME, Ubuntu 
14.04, Ubuntu 14.04 GNOME and so on), upgraded (describe version) or clean 
installed
- 2. What keyboard layout do you have
- 3. What shortcut for keyboard layout switching do you use 
- 4. On which session you have problems - that is one from Unity, GNOME Shell, 
GNOME FlashBack/Fallback (Metacity), GNOME FlashBack/Fallback (Compiz)
- 5. With which program and its version and origin (Ubuntu repositories, PPA, 
non-deb binary package from some website) you have problems.
+ What we need to do, is collect those corner cases and create new
+ separate reports.
  
- By providing this information you can make bug-fixing much simpler and
- may be faster.
+ Here are the corner cases:
  
- --
- For other layout switching problems introduced in Ubuntu 13.10 you can see 
bug 1218322.
- --
+ 1. In Dash (in Unity 7), shortcuts like Super+S/W work (for example, Greek, 
Russian), but they do not work for Super+A/F/M/C/V. 
+ Report: 
+ 
+ 2. Java GUI applications on Linux do not support shortcuts in non-latin 
languages. This is an issue with Java and should be reported there.
+ Java GUI apps are not included in any of the Ubuntu ISOs. 
+ Report: 
+ 
+ 3. Shortcuts that use Ctrl on LibreOffice work for several languages (like 
Greek, Russian), but has been reported not to work on Hebrew.
+ This should be a separate bug report specific to Hebrew and other languages 
affected in the same way.
+ Report: 

** Summary changed:

- Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout
+ Keyboard shortcuts (hotkeys) not functional in some cases in non-latin 
keyboard layout

** Summary changed:

- Keyboard shortcuts (hotkeys) not functional in some cases in non-latin 
keyboard layout
+ Keyboard shortcuts (hotkeys) not functional in some cases in non-latin 
keyboard layouts

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[Bug 1226962] Re: Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout

2017-04-23 Thread Simos Xenitellis 
@nrbrtx: As noted in #329, the shortcuts for Super+A/F/M/C/V indeed do
not work on Unity.

However, the shortcuts for Super+S/W actually work. This means that the
functionality is there to make Super+A/F/M/C/V work as well. See the
screenshot at #329 that demonstrates that Russian is OK for Super+S/W.

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[Bug 1226962] Re: Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout

2017-04-23 Thread Norbert
Unity shortcuts (Super+A/F/M/C/V) do not work on non-latin layout in Xenial.
I use English and Russian layouts.

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[Bug 1226962] Re: Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout

2017-04-23 Thread Simos Xenitellis 
@dror-sign: I have tested with Ctrl+O (File→Open...). 
Indeed, when they keyboard layout is in Hebrew, Ctrl+O in Libreoffice does not 
work.
However, Ctrl+O in LibreOffice for at least Greek and Russian works.

Therefore, this inability for Ctrl+... shortcuts not working in
LibreOffice for Hebrew is an issue by itself, that is specific to Hebrew
(and needs a new report that is specific to Hebrew and other layouts
that are affected in the same way).

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[Bug 1226962] Re: Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout

2017-04-21 Thread Simos Xenitellis 
@dror-sign: I just tried the Alt+F shortcut on LibreOffice, on Ubuntu
16.04, having enabled the Hebrew keyboard layout. It worked for me.

You are supposed to have as primary keyboard layout the English (En)
keyboard layout.

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Re: [Bug 1226962] Re: Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout

2017-04-21 Thread drorlev
LibreOffice shortcuts don't work in Hebrew on Ubuntu 16.04

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Simos Xenitellis  <
1226...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:

> @xeron-oskom: Indeed, Super+A/F/M/C/V are not adapted and do not currently
> work with Greek either.
> However, what is working, are those shortcuts that I show in my screenshot
> (Super+W, Super+S).
>
> Here is a screenshot that shows that when you switch to Russian keyboard
> layout, the Unity shortcuts for Super+W and Super+S are adapted
> automatically for Russian.
>
> The way that Super+W and Super+S work, makes me believe that these are not
> hard-coded but dynamic.
> Here is relevant code http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~
> unity-team/unity/trunk/files/head:/shortcuts/
>
>
> ** Attachment added: "unity-shortcuts-russian.png"
>https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1226962/+
> attachment/4865983/+files/unity-shortcuts-russian.png
>
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>
> Title:
>   Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout
>
> Status in aptana-studio-installer:
>   New
> Status in Default settings and artwork for Baltix OS:
>   New
> Status in LibreOffice:
>   Fix Released
> Status in ibus:
>   New
> Status in Indicator keyboard:
>   Fix Released
> Status in Inkscape:
>   New
> Status in Intellij Idea:
>   New
> Status in monodevelop:
>   New
> Status in Mutter:
>   Fix Released
> Status in okular:
>   New
> Status in OpenOffice:
>   New
> Status in sigram:
>   New
> Status in Unity:
>   Fix Released
> Status in gnome-settings-daemon package in Ubuntu:
>   Triaged
> Status in gnome-terminal package in Ubuntu:
>   Triaged
> Status in kdevelop package in Ubuntu:
>   Confirmed
> Status in openjdk-7 package in Ubuntu:
>   Incomplete
> Status in unity package in Ubuntu:
>   Fix Released
> Status in unity-settings-daemon package in Ubuntu:
>   In Progress
> Status in gnome-settings-daemon source package in Xenial:
>   Triaged
> Status in gnome-terminal source package in Xenial:
>   Triaged
> Status in kdevelop source package in Xenial:
>   Confirmed
> Status in openjdk-7 source package in Xenial:
>   Incomplete
> Status in unity source package in Xenial:
>   Fix Released
> Status in unity-settings-daemon source package in Xenial:
>   In Progress
> Status in gnome-shell package in Fedora:
>   Unknown
> Status in openoffice package in Fedora:
>   Unknown
>
> Bug description:
>   New keyboard layout changer in Ubuntu 13.10 introduce  old-new bug. Any
> system or application hotkey witch use char (for example: ctrl+alt+t for
> terminal or ctrl+t for new tab in browser) become unfunctional when
> selected non-latin keyboard layout.
>   Hotkeys with F1-12, numbers and other non-character buttons works
> perfectly.
>
>   Window manager hotkeys not affected by this bug. All hotkeys in system
>   parameters->keyboard->hotkeys->windows works perfect with any keyboard
>   layout.
>
>   Workaround for some system hotkeys and two layouts (english and non-
>   latin): rebind all hotkeys in your local layout. For example instead
>   of ctrl+alt+t use ctrl+alt+τ (greek tau). That hotkey still work with
>   english layout.  If you use english and two different non-latin
>   layouts this workaround helps only with one of them.
>
>
>   Dear Ubuntu users and developers!
>   Please include the following information to your comment about non-latin
> shortcuts problems:
>   1. What Ubuntu version do you have (Ubuntu 13.10, Ubuntu 13.10 GNOME,
> Ubuntu 14.04, Ubuntu 14.04 GNOME and so on), upgraded (describe version) or
> clean installed
>   2. What keyboard layout do you have
>   3. What shortcut for keyboard layout switching do you use
>   4. On which session you have problems - that is one from Unity, GNOME
> Shell, GNOME FlashBack/Fallback (Metacity), GNOME FlashBack/Fallback
> (Compiz)
>   5. With which program and its version and origin (Ubuntu repositories,
> PPA, non-deb binary package from some website) you have problems.
>
>   By providing this information you can make bug-fixing much simpler and
>   may be faster.
>
>   --
>   For other layout switching problems introduced in Ubuntu 13.10 you can
> see bug 1218322.
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>
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[Bug 1226962] Re: Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout

2017-04-21 Thread Simos Xenitellis 
@xeron-oskom: Indeed, Super+A/F/M/C/V are not adapted and do not currently work 
with Greek either. 
However, what is working, are those shortcuts that I show in my screenshot 
(Super+W, Super+S).

Here is a screenshot that shows that when you switch to Russian keyboard
layout, the Unity shortcuts for Super+W and Super+S are adapted
automatically for Russian.

The way that Super+W and Super+S work, makes me believe that these are not 
hard-coded but dynamic.
Here is relevant code 
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/trunk/files/head:/shortcuts/


** Attachment added: "unity-shortcuts-russian.png"
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1226962/+attachment/4865983/+files/unity-shortcuts-russian.png

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[Bug 1226962] Re: Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout

2017-04-20 Thread Nazar Mokrynskyi
@simosx, I do not care what the hell is going on, I just know that Java-
based and some other apps (can't recall the list right now) simply do
not work like you say they are. They work on Windows and they work under
X11 when I set languages with setxkbmap (for the last few years I use
setxkbmap + gxkb for tray information about current layout exactly
because of this issue, see
https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1226962/comments/221).

With setxkbmap everything just works perfectly in ANY APP I ever
encounter. Which apparently means g-s-d or u-s-d or whatever will come
with the next GNOME release (probably will be moved to Mutter as
everything else these days) is the root cause of the issue. And GNOME
should be fixed, not every app in this universe.

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[Bug 1226962] Re: Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout

2017-04-20 Thread Simos Xenitellis 
@xeron-oskom: The Unity 7 shortcuts are adapted accordingly when the keyboard 
layout is switched to Greek. See screenshot below. 
When you keep pressed the Win key, you get that information text with all 
shortcuts. 

Admittedly, I just checked that a few shortcuts are not adapted for Greek so 
they require specific bug reports. However, the general functionality is there.
Can you check what is shown in my screenshot, but for Russian?

This bug report has reached 325 comments. Any developer would struggle
to make sense as it is now.

** Attachment added: "Unity 7 shortcuts, when the keyboard layout is switched 
to Greek"
   
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[Bug 1226962] Re: Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout

2017-04-20 Thread Ivan Larionov
> we do not get a reproducible case of shortcuts not working

Seriously?

Try Unity hotkeys in Russian layout: (cmd+a/f/m/c/v).

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[Bug 1226962] Re: Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout

2017-04-20 Thread Simos Xenitellis 
@nazar-pc: Java GUI apps on Linux is a special case. Firstly, they are
no such apps pre-installed, so it is somewhat a non-Ubuntu problem.

Gedit is written in the C programming language and is part of the core
GNOME apps. It is well-support and shortcuts work. It has been working
for 10+ years, since the multi-layout shortcut support was added to
GTK+.

This ability to use shortcuts even when the active layout was not
English, was added to GTK+ (GNOME) at around 2005, perhaps earlier. It
was the first UI toolkit to have such support for shortcuts when the
active layout was not English. Qt did not have it for a long long time
(has it been added there?).

I am inclined to close this report in a few days if we do not get a 
reproducible case of shortcuts not working.
At the same time, I'll open (if they do not exist) individual reports regarding 
shortcuts in Java GUI apps and other toolkits that do not have that support.

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[Bug 1226962] Re: Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout

2017-04-20 Thread Simos Xenitellis 
I think this report needs to clear up. The title and the description
should get an update.

I am using stock Ubuntu 16.04.2 (i.e. Unity 7) and I have configured two
keyboard layouts, EN, GR.

I start gedit and I press the Ctrl+S (Save) hotkey. 
In both cases (Layouts: EN (English), GR (Greek)), the Save dialog box appears.
Similarly, I tested with Firefox, Chrome and Chromium and it worked as well 
(Ctrl+τ to open a new tab).

Therefore, it is working for me at least for these apps.

Is there anyone that cannot get this to work on Ubuntu 16.04?
If so, tell me what keyboard layouts you have enabled. 
Note that the first keyboard layout MUST be "En" (English).

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[Bug 1226962] Re: Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout

2017-04-20 Thread Nazar Mokrynskyi
When was it fixed in GNOME? I was using gnome-settings-daemon's keyboard
handling till ~3.18 and it didn't work since the moment they break it. I
do not want to reconfigure system right now, but I'm pretty sure it
wasn't fixed, just various GNOME apps were patched with workarounds,
while generally issue is still there and it seems like will never be
fixed at all.

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[Bug 1226962] Re: Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout

2017-04-20 Thread Ivan Larionov
It has nothing to do with GNOME. This is unity-settings-daemon bug.

Unity-settings-daemon is outdated fork of gnome-settings-daemon. Now,
because Gnome Team maintains their stack and fixes issues this exact bug
doesn't exist in Gnome, but unity-settings-daemon is outdated and was
never updated from Gnome's upstream (which is probably very hard because
of huge amount of Ubuntu/Unity changes in this package) so this bug was
never fixed in Unity stack.

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[Bug 1226962] Re: Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout

2017-04-20 Thread Nazar Mokrynskyi
It happened in gnome-settings-daemon first and then appeared in u-s-d,
so this is GNOME-specific issue.

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[Bug 1226962] Re: Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout

2017-04-20 Thread ZoLToR
As I remember, I couldn't recreate this issue in Gnome (but to be
honest, I'm not sure for 100% :) ). So, I assume, that the issue caused
by Canonical's developers, who made the changes in unity-settings-daemon
(which initially was forked from gnome-settings-daemon).

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[Bug 1226962] Re: Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout

2017-04-20 Thread Nazar Mokrynskyi
My first language is EN, doens't help.
Migration FROM GNOME will help, because GNOME stack is the root cause of this 
issue.

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[Bug 1226962] Re: Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout

2017-04-20 Thread Igor Shuvalov
Please, try to make EN first layout in 'Region & Language' settings

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[Bug 1226962] Re: Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout

2017-04-19 Thread Ivan Larionov
The same bug affects 17.04.

Apparently it will be fixed only after migration to Gnome :)

** Tags added: zesty

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[Bug 1226962] Re: Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout

2016-11-13 Thread ZoLToR
Just use another keyboard switcher (e.g., gxkb) and keep only one
English layout in system layout switcher. I tried gxkb and all worked
fine but some another issues appeared, which specific to gxkb (e.g.,
when laptop was waking up from the sleep mode, gxkb settings were
resetting. Also, I didn't see gxkb indicator on the lock screen, so
sometime I entered the password on wrong layout). But I almost didn't
notice this gxkb-specific issues in comparison with this idiotic
annoying issue in unity-settings-daemon, which cannot be fixed so long
time (wtf? Developers are fixing the result of this issue by adding some
"bicycles" to software where this issue is persist, but they aren't
fixing the ROOT CAUSE in unity-setting-daemon -_-" )

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[Bug 1226962] Re: Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout

2016-11-13 Thread referee
ubuntu 16.10
same issue, intellij idea, datagrip
use english and russian layout, ctrl+shift to switch between them

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[Bug 1226962] Re: Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout

2016-11-12 Thread Arutyun
The same problem in NetBeans IDE 8.2

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[Bug 1226962] Re: Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout

2016-11-12 Thread Arutyun
The same problem in NetBeans IDE 8.2

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[Bug 1226962] Re: Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout

2016-10-13 Thread Ivan Larionov
So 16.10 released with the same bug.

I assume this won't be fixed until they release Ubuntu with Unity 8
because it uses QT and won't be affected by this bug :)

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Re: [Bug 1226962] Re: Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout

2016-07-12 Thread Ari
Please fix openoffice.

This was fixed once and came back.  Could be done much better.

On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 12:43 AM, Norbert <1226...@bugs.launchpad.net>
wrote:

> ** Tags added: yakkety
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> Title:
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> Status in aptana-studio-installer:
>   New
> Status in Default settings and artwork for Baltix OS:
>   New
> Status in LibreOffice:
>   Fix Released
> Status in ibus:
>   New
> Status in Indicator keyboard:
>   Fix Released
> Status in Inkscape:
>   New
> Status in Intellij Idea:
>   New
> Status in monodevelop:
>   New
> Status in mutter:
>   Fix Released
> Status in okular:
>   New
> Status in OpenOffice:
>   New
> Status in sigram:
>   New
> Status in Unity:
>   Fix Released
> Status in gnome-settings-daemon package in Ubuntu:
>   Triaged
> Status in gnome-terminal package in Ubuntu:
>   Triaged
> Status in kdevelop package in Ubuntu:
>   Confirmed
> Status in openjdk-7 package in Ubuntu:
>   Incomplete
> Status in unity package in Ubuntu:
>   Fix Released
> Status in unity-settings-daemon package in Ubuntu:
>   In Progress
> Status in gnome-settings-daemon source package in Xenial:
>   Triaged
> Status in gnome-terminal source package in Xenial:
>   Triaged
> Status in kdevelop source package in Xenial:
>   Confirmed
> Status in openjdk-7 source package in Xenial:
>   Incomplete
> Status in unity source package in Xenial:
>   Fix Released
> Status in unity-settings-daemon source package in Xenial:
>   In Progress
> Status in gnome-shell package in Fedora:
>   Unknown
> Status in openoffice package in Fedora:
>   Unknown
>
> Bug description:
>   New keyboard layout changer in Ubuntu 13.10 introduce  old-new bug. Any
> system or application hotkey witch use char (for example: ctrl+alt+t for
> terminal or ctrl+t for new tab in browser) become unfunctional when
> selected non-latin keyboard layout.
>   Hotkeys with F1-12, numbers and other non-character buttons works
> perfectly.
>
>   Window manager hotkeys not affected by this bug. All hotkeys in system
>   parameters->keyboard->hotkeys->windows works perfect with any keyboard
>   layout.
>
>   Workaround for some system hotkeys and two layouts (english and non-
>   latin): rebind all hotkeys in your local layout. For example instead
>   of ctrl+alt+t use ctrl+alt+τ (greek tau). That hotkey still work with
>   english layout.  If you use english and two different non-latin
>   layouts this workaround helps only with one of them.
>
>
>   Dear Ubuntu users and developers!
>   Please include the following information to your comment about non-latin
> shortcuts problems:
>   1. What Ubuntu version do you have (Ubuntu 13.10, Ubuntu 13.10 GNOME,
> Ubuntu 14.04, Ubuntu 14.04 GNOME and so on), upgraded (describe version) or
> clean installed
>   2. What keyboard layout do you have
>   3. What shortcut for keyboard layout switching do you use
>   4. On which session you have problems - that is one from Unity, GNOME
> Shell, GNOME FlashBack/Fallback (Metacity), GNOME FlashBack/Fallback
> (Compiz)
>   5. With which program and its version and origin (Ubuntu repositories,
> PPA, non-deb binary package from some website) you have problems.
>
>   By providing this information you can make bug-fixing much simpler and
>   may be faster.
>
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>   For other layout switching problems introduced in Ubuntu 13.10 you can
> see bug 1218322.
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[Bug 1226962] Re: Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout

2016-07-11 Thread Norbert
** Tags added: yakkety

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[Bug 1226962] Re: Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout

2016-05-18 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
** Changed in: kdevelop (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => High

** Changed in: kdevelop (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Importance: Undecided => High

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[Bug 1226962] Re: Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout

2016-04-28 Thread serega386
** Also affects: kdevelop (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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