New KDE Frameworks Versions as SRU

2014-11-20 Thread Jonathan Riddell
I'd like to propose to the tech board to give an update allowance for new versions of KDE Frameworks. I don't expect this to be the quickest of discussions so we may as well get started :) Currently we have a micro release update exception for KDE SC bugfix releases. KDE Frameworks has no

Re: New KDE Frameworks Versions as SRU

2014-11-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, November 20, 2014 03:19:10 PM Jonathan Riddell wrote: I'd like to propose to the tech board to give an update allowance for new versions of KDE Frameworks. I don't expect this to be the quickest of discussions so we may as well get started :) Currently we have a micro release

Re: New KDE Frameworks Versions as SRU

2014-11-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, November 20, 2014 03:39:47 PM Harald Sitter wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:34 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: On Thursday, November 20, 2014 03:19:10 PM Jonathan Riddell wrote: I'd like to propose to the tech board to give an update allowance for new versions

Re: New KDE Frameworks Versions as SRU

2014-11-20 Thread Harald Sitter
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: On Thursday, November 20, 2014 03:39:47 PM Harald Sitter wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:34 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: On Thursday, November 20, 2014 03:19:10 PM Jonathan Riddell wrote: I'd

Re: New KDE Frameworks Versions as SRU

2014-11-20 Thread Rohan Garg
Crack of the day is hardly the right way to describe substantially autotest covered software that goes through continuous integration, static code analysis, continuous package integration, symbol tracking, constant developer and early adopter testing, then a week or two of PPA testing, and

Re: New KDE Frameworks Versions as SRU

2014-11-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, November 20, 2014 03:56:13 PM Harald Sitter wrote: There is a need for bugfixes, which unfortunately may or may not contain features. That being said, with frameworks being mostly libraries a 'feature' is a new function, which quite simply can not break existing functions by

Re: New KDE Frameworks Versions as SRU

2014-11-20 Thread Harald Sitter
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: On Thursday, November 20, 2014 03:56:13 PM Harald Sitter wrote: There is a need for bugfixes, which unfortunately may or may not contain features. That being said, with frameworks being mostly libraries a 'feature'

Re: New KDE Frameworks Versions as SRU

2014-11-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, November 20, 2014 04:17:07 PM Harald Sitter wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: On Thursday, November 20, 2014 03:56:13 PM Harald Sitter wrote: There is a need for bugfixes, which unfortunately may or may not contain features.

Re: New KDE Frameworks Versions as SRU

2014-11-20 Thread Rohan Garg
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: On Thursday, November 20, 2014 04:17:07 PM Harald Sitter wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: On Thursday, November 20, 2014 03:56:13 PM Harald Sitter wrote: There is

Re: New KDE Frameworks Versions as SRU

2014-11-20 Thread Jonathan Riddell
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 09:34:43AM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: KDE Frameworks has no bugfix releases because upstream decided they didn't have the resources to make them. Instead they have new releases every month with both bugfixes and new features. However these are libraries so

Re: New KDE Frameworks Versions as SRU

2014-11-20 Thread Ralph Janke
On 2014-11-20 10:25, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Thursday, November 20, 2014 04:17:07 PM Harald Sitter wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: On Thursday, November 20, 2014 03:56:13 PM Harald Sitter wrote: There is a need for bugfixes, which

Re: New KDE Frameworks Versions as SRU

2014-11-20 Thread Harald Sitter
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: On Thursday, November 20, 2014 04:17:07 PM Harald Sitter wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: On Thursday, November 20, 2014 03:56:13 PM Harald Sitter wrote: There is

Re: New KDE Frameworks Versions as SRU

2014-11-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, November 20, 2014 05:36:42 PM Harald Sitter wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: On Thursday, November 20, 2014 04:17:07 PM Harald Sitter wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: On

Re: New KDE Frameworks Versions as SRU

2014-11-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, November 20, 2014 09:04:52 PM Rohan Garg wrote: Major snippage for readability While I don't want to expand this preliminary thread too wide I really don't think there are many options anyway. Either we don't provide updates in which case bugs will stay around forever