[libreoffice-l10n] Rename datapilot to Pivot Table?

2011-04-14 Thread Andre Schnabel
Hi, in OOo 3.4 "Datapilot" was renamed to "Pivot Table". This change was merged to LibO and is now in localization. While we discussed if we will change the name in GErman translations, Stefan Weigel found something interesting: Von: Stefan Weigel > Es gibt übrigens eine Patentschrift United

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Rename datapilot to Pivot Table?

2011-04-14 Thread Olivier Hallot
Hi Em 14-04-2011 10:27, Andre Schnabel escreveu: Hi, in OOo 3.4 "Datapilot" was renamed to "Pivot Table". This change was merged to LibO and is now in localization. While we discussed if we will change the name in GErman translations, Stefan Weigel found something interesting: Von: Stefan We

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Rename datapilot to Pivot Table?

2011-04-14 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi *, On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Andre Schnabel wrote: > [PivotTable is trademark] > http://ip.com/patent/US6411313 (Seite 10, 2. Absatz) trademark status itself: http://tarr.uspto.gov/tarr?regser=serial&entry=74472929 ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@lib

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Rename datapilot to Pivot Table?

2011-04-14 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi Olivier, Am 14.04.2011 15:42, schrieb Olivier Hallot: > Besides, a quick reading of the link above seems to deal more on the > pivot table user interface than on the name... Sure, but on page 10 it clearly reads: "PivotTable (TM) is a trademark of Microsoft Corporation." Meanwhile I also fou

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Rename datapilot to Pivot Table?

2011-04-14 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 14/04/2011 Andre Schnabel wrote: > PivotTable as trademark of Microsoft Corporation. Within the last > years this was always named as reason why OOo needs to use the term > "Datapilot" - I have no idea if (and how) this situation did change > recently. The text only concerns "PivotTable" writt

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Rename datapilot to Pivot Table?

2011-04-14 Thread Stefan Weigel
Am 14.04.2011 15:49, schrieb Stefan Weigel: > Meanwhile I also found the USPTO record: > > http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4009:kv5n4s.2.1 Since, the link above has expired, see here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/a/a5/PivotTableTrademark.pdf Stefan --

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Rename datapilot to Pivot Table?

2011-04-14 Thread Christian Lohmaier
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Stefan Weigel wrote: > Am 14.04.2011 15:49, schrieb Stefan Weigel: > >> Meanwhile I also found the USPTO record: >> >> http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4009:kv5n4s.2.1 > > Since, the link above has expired, see here: Just use the link I posted - al

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Rename datapilot to Pivot Table?

2011-04-14 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi Andrea, Am 14.04.2011 15:55, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: > The text only concerns "PivotTable" written this way, not the concept of > Pivot Tables or their name. Hm. The official USPTO record reads: Word Mark PIVOTTABLE AFAIK, at least in Germany, this would mean that any use of similar

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Rename datapilot to Pivot Table?

2011-04-14 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi all, On 14/04/2011 16:42, Olivier Hallot wrote: Hi Em 14-04-2011 10:27, Andre Schnabel escreveu: Hi, in OOo 3.4 "Datapilot" was renamed to "Pivot Table". This change was merged to LibO and is now in localization. While we discussed if we will change the name in GErman translations, Stefan

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Rename datapilot to Pivot Table?

2011-04-14 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Hi all, Short translation is that there is a patent claim which references to >>> PivotTable as trademark of Microsoft Corporation. Within the last >>> years this was always named as reason why OOo needs to use the term >>> "Datapilot" - I have no idea if (and how) this situation did change >>> r

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Solicitud de colaboración para la traducción de OOo y LibO 3.4

2011-04-14 Thread Julio Cesar Perez Barbosa
Buenos dias he tratado de colaborar pero al momento de querer hacer modificaciones no encuentro la forma de hacerlo, tienes un tutorial de como hacerlo para colaborar?? segun la fecha se tienen 12 dias El 13 de abril de 2011 13:16, Santiago Bosio escribió: > Estimados amigos y colaboradores: > >

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Solicitud de colaboración para la traducción de OOo y LibO 3.4

2011-04-14 Thread Carlos R.
Yo cuento actualmente con aproximadamente 3 o 4 horas diarias libres y que estaría dispuesto a usarlas en ayudar, pero pues necesito que me tengan paciencia y me expliquen como hago, ya que en los proyectos que he ayudado las traducciones se manejaban era por foro (phpBB). Gracias, Carlos R. 20

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Rename datapilot to Pivot Table?

2011-04-14 Thread Michael Riess
Am 14.04.2011 16:45, schrieb Alexander Thurgood: Hi all, Short translation is that there is a patent claim which references to PivotTable as trademark of Microsoft Corporation. Within the last years this was always named as reason why OOo needs to use the term "Datapilot" - I have no idea if (

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Rename datapilot to Pivot Table?

2011-04-14 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
I guess Oracle OOo dev team was not aware of it or forgot about it (or many people do not work there anymore). What now? I doubt it is a problem in translations. I guess only in English it has to be changed to something else. I doubte M$ copyrighted this word in translated form in all other countr

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Rename datapilot to Pivot Table?

2011-04-14 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Alexander Thurgood wrote: > http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4009:rmqegm.2.1 > PIVOTTABLE is a registered federal US trademark, assigned to Microsoft Corp. And so far we all agree, and this is the premise of the old issue I mentioned: http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Solicitud de colaboración para la traducción de OOo y LibO 3.4

2011-04-14 Thread Daniel Gonzalez
On 04/13/2011 01:46 PM, Santiago Bosio wrote: Estimados amigos y colaboradores: Ante todo disculpen el cross-posting a las distintas listas. Necesitamos colaboradores para completar la traducción de las interfaces de usuario y ayuda de OOo y LibO para la próxima versión 3.4. El estado de sit

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Solicitud de colaboración para la traducción de OOo y LibO 3.4

2011-04-14 Thread Julio Cesar Perez Barbosa
Buenas noches creo que estoy igual, mi usuario es julinuxhack, habilitacion de permisos, gracias El 14 de abril de 2011 22:21, Daniel Gonzalez escribió: > On 04/13/2011 01:46 PM, Santiago Bosio wrote: > >> Estimados amigos y colaboradores: >> >> Ante todo disculpen el cross-posting a las distint

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Rename datapilot to Pivot Table?

2011-04-14 Thread André Schnabel
Hi, Am 14.04.2011 21:39, schrieb Michael Riess: what about calling it "Kreuztabelle" in Ooowiki it is used as synonym http://www.ooowiki.de/PivotTabelle http://www.ooowiki.de/KreuzTabelle Well this would replace one "Workaround" by another. Not my favourite. i also could imagine to crea

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Rename datapilot to Pivot Table?

2011-04-14 Thread André Schnabel
Hi, Am 14.04.2011 22:19, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Alexander Thurgood wrote: http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4009:rmqegm.2.1 PIVOTTABLE is a registered federal US trademark, assigned to Microsoft Corp. And so far we all agree, and this is the premise of the old issue I mentione