Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Translating without Pootle WAS Translating without Pottle

2016-11-26 Thread Cor Nouws
Sophie wrote on 24-10-16 17:01:
> Le 24/10/2016 Ã  15:39, Cor Nouws a érit :
>> OK.. I've changed the wiki a bit.
>> - The handle is right and for me only visible when I'm in a special project.
>> - And the tab Overview is not shown for me.
>>
>> I think more changes are needed, but I'm glad this past is clear for me
>> now :)
> 
> Let me know where you want more changes, I'll add them.

Thanks Sophie.
Looking at what I thought needed work... I changed it myself.

However only looked at Projects and Project details. So assuming the
rest is OK.

Ciao - Cor

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Translating without Pootle WAS Translating without Pottle

2016-10-24 Thread Sophie
Hi Cor,
Le 24/10/2016 à 17:03, Cor Nouws a écrit :
> Dennis Roczek wrote on 24-10-16 16:48:
> 
>> well we also have
>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/UsingOmegaT
>> how to use omegaT in the wiki. maybe that should also be linked. ;-)
> 
> Sure. And is it (mostly) up to date?

yes
> I see it mentions to convert po to csv. Is that mandatory, or related to
> making a github teamproject, as explained further on that page?

It's only to get a glossary as reference for guides translation. That
way, you are sure that the UI terminology is used in the guide and you
don't have to check the UI anytime you're translating some functionalities.
Cheers
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Translating without Pootle WAS Translating without Pottle

2016-10-24 Thread Cor Nouws
Dennis Roczek wrote on 24-10-16 16:48:

> well we also have
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/UsingOmegaT
> how to use omegaT in the wiki. maybe that should also be linked. ;-)

Sure. And is it (mostly) up to date?
I see it mentions to convert po to csv. Is that mandatory, or related to
making a github teamproject, as explained further on that page?

ciao - Cor


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Translating without Pootle WAS Translating without Pottle

2016-10-24 Thread Sophie
Hi Cor,
Le 24/10/2016 à 15:39, Cor Nouws a écrit :
> Sophie wrote on 24-10-16 15:02:
> 
>> see here:
>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/PootleGuide#Overview
>> on the screenshot, see the two links to download and upload the files
> 
> OK.. I've changed the wiki a bit.
> - The handle is right and for me only visible when I'm in a special project.
> - And the tab Overview is not shown for me.
> 
> I think more changes are needed, but I'm glad this past is clear for me
> now :)

Let me know where you want more changes, I'll add them.
Cheers
Sophie


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Translating without Pootle WAS Translating without Pottle

2016-10-24 Thread Sophie
Hi Dennis,
Le 24/10/2016 à 16:48, Dennis Roczek a écrit :
> Hi Cor,
> 
> On 24.10.2016 15:39, Cor Nouws wrote:
>> Sophie wrote on 24-10-16 15:02:
> 
>>> see here:
>>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/PootleGuide#Overview
>>> on the screenshot, see the two links to download and upload the files
> 
>> OK.. I've changed the wiki a bit.
>> - The handle is right and for me only visible when I'm in a special pr
> oject.
>> - And the tab Overview is not shown for me.
> 
>> I think more changes are needed, but I'm glad this past is clear for m
> e
>> now :)
> 
>> thanks for your help
> well we also have
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/UsingOmega
> T
> how to use omegaT in the wiki. maybe that should also be linked. ;-)

Thanks for the proposal, but I think it will be confusing because it's a
specific function of OmegaT that is used to translate in sync via
github, it's not usable from Pootle. So for me it's better to not link
them, it's really two different processes even if it's the same tool
that is used.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Translating without Pootle WAS Translating without Pottle

2016-10-24 Thread Dennis Roczek
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Hi Cor,

On 24.10.2016 15:39, Cor Nouws wrote:
> Sophie wrote on 24-10-16 15:02:
> 
>> see here:
>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/PootleGuide#Overview
>> on the screenshot, see the two links to download and upload the files
> 
> OK.. I've changed the wiki a bit.
> - The handle is right and for me only visible when I'm in a special pr
oject.
> - And the tab Overview is not shown for me.
> 
> I think more changes are needed, but I'm glad this past is clear for m
e
> now :)
> 
> thanks for your help
well we also have
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/UsingOmega
T
how to use omegaT in the wiki. maybe that should also be linked. ;-)
> Cor

Dennis
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Translating without Pootle WAS Translating without Pottle

2016-10-24 Thread Cor Nouws
Sophie wrote on 24-10-16 15:02:

> see here:
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/PootleGuide#Overview
> on the screenshot, see the two links to download and upload the files

OK.. I've changed the wiki a bit.
- The handle is right and for me only visible when I'm in a special project.
- And the tab Overview is not shown for me.

I think more changes are needed, but I'm glad this past is clear for me
now :)

thanks for your help

Cor


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Translating without Pootle WAS Translating without Pottle

2016-10-24 Thread Sophie
Le 24/10/2016 à 14:51, Cor Nouws a écrit :
> Cor Nouws wrote on 24-10-16 14:48:
>> Hi Sophie,
>>
>> Sophie wrote on 24-10-16 14:19:
>>
>>> There is no documentation on the wiki because each tool has his own
>>> documentation:
>>> http://www.omegat.org/en/omegat.html
>>> http://virtaal.translatehouse.org/
>>> https://poedit.net/
>>> for some of them
>>> Then, you download the .po files from Pootle, you translate them via
>>> your preferred tool and upload the files again on Pootle.
>>> Is that what you was searching for?
>>
>> That makes sense as a start.
>> I could find info on where to download/upload PO files. The wiki pages
> 
> could _not_ find (oops!)

see here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/PootleGuide#Overview
on the screenshot, see the two links to download and upload the files
> 
>> for Pootle seem to be different than what I see?
>> Also: can po files for parts of the project be downloaded? 

yes, you can download each file of a project or a folder of the project
or the whole project. It depends on where you are on the tree while
downloading. What is important is to upload the files at the same
place/level you download them.

I guess it's
>> not OK to work on the same part on line and off line at the same time..

Yes, it's not possible as the files are not synchronized.
Cheers
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Translating without Pootle WAS Translating without Pottle

2016-10-24 Thread Cor Nouws
Cor Nouws wrote on 24-10-16 14:48:
> Hi Sophie,
> 
> Sophie wrote on 24-10-16 14:19:
> 
>> There is no documentation on the wiki because each tool has his own
>> documentation:
>> http://www.omegat.org/en/omegat.html
>> http://virtaal.translatehouse.org/
>> https://poedit.net/
>> for some of them
>> Then, you download the .po files from Pootle, you translate them via
>> your preferred tool and upload the files again on Pootle.
>> Is that what you was searching for?
> 
> That makes sense as a start.
> I could find info on where to download/upload PO files. The wiki pages

could _not_ find (oops!)

> for Pootle seem to be different than what I see?
> Also: can po files for parts of the project be downloaded? I guess it's
> not OK to work on the same part on line and off line at the same time..
> 
> Thanks,
> Cor
> 


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Translating without Pootle WAS Translating without Pottle

2016-10-24 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Sophie,

Sophie wrote on 24-10-16 14:19:

> There is no documentation on the wiki because each tool has his own
> documentation:
> http://www.omegat.org/en/omegat.html
> http://virtaal.translatehouse.org/
> https://poedit.net/
> for some of them
> Then, you download the .po files from Pootle, you translate them via
> your preferred tool and upload the files again on Pootle.
> Is that what you was searching for?

That makes sense as a start.
I could find info on where to download/upload PO files. The wiki pages
for Pootle seem to be different than what I see?
Also: can po files for parts of the project be downloaded? I guess it's
not OK to work on the same part on line and off line at the same time..

Thanks,
Cor

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Translating without Pootle WAS Translating without Pottle

2016-10-24 Thread Sophie
Hi Cor,
Le 24/10/2016 à 13:40, Cor Nouws a écrit :
> Hi Sophie,
> 
> Sophie wrote on 24-10-16 11:04:
> 
>> I've numerous discussions with Jean-Philippe, but usually in French ;-)
>> There is no documentation on on/offline FR l10n on the wiki,
>> Jean-Baptiste is translating online and me is working offline, we
>> coordinate both together when needed.
> 
> We too are looking in possibilities for offline translating.
> As I wrote in my mails from last Saturday (14:51; 15:13), I've searched
> the wiki-pages, but could not find the proper info.

Ha, so nothing to do with French pages.
> 
> Did I simply oversee it? If so: where is it. If not: how can we find out
> how it works?

There is no documentation on the wiki because each tool has his own
documentation:
http://www.omegat.org/en/omegat.html
http://virtaal.translatehouse.org/
https://poedit.net/
for some of them
Then, you download the .po files from Pootle, you translate them via
your preferred tool and upload the files again on Pootle.
Is that what you was searching for?
Cheers
Sophie
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Translating without Pootle WAS Translating without Pottle

2016-10-24 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Sophie,

Sophie wrote on 24-10-16 11:04:

> I've numerous discussions with Jean-Philippe, but usually in French ;-)
> There is no documentation on on/offline FR l10n on the wiki,
> Jean-Baptiste is translating online and me is working offline, we
> coordinate both together when needed.

We too are looking in possibilities for offline translating.
As I wrote in my mails from last Saturday (14:51; 15:13), I've searched
the wiki-pages, but could not find the proper info.

Did I simply oversee it? If so: where is it. If not: how can we find out
how it works?

thanks!

Cor




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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Translating without Pootle WAS Translating without Pottle

2016-10-24 Thread Sophie
Le 22/10/2016 à 21:44, Cor Nouws a écrit :
> Cor Nouws wrote on 22-10-16 21:39:
>> Sophie Gautier wrote on 22-10-16 20:54:
>>
>>> Sorry but I already answered a long time ago to Jean-Phi on this, what are
>>> you searching for?
>>
>> Apparently the answer. Somehow I missed that mail in all the ones I saw..
> 
> I've deleted quite some mails from my local box. And all I see in the
> archive is
>   http://www.mail-archive.com/l10n@global.libreoffice.org/msg10208.html
> and
>   http://www.mail-archive.com/l10n@global.libreoffice.org/msg10217.html
> 
> also refering to an explanation.
> So - sorry - if you can please help me :)

I've numerous discussions with Jean-Philippe, but usually in French ;-)
There is no documentation on on/offline FR l10n on the wiki,
Jean-Baptiste is translating online and me is working offline, we
coordinate both together when needed.

Cheers
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Translating without Pootle WAS Translating without Pottle

2016-10-22 Thread Cor Nouws
Cor Nouws wrote on 22-10-16 21:39:
> Sophie Gautier wrote on 22-10-16 20:54:
> 
>> Sorry but I already answered a long time ago to Jean-Phi on this, what are
>> you searching for?
> 
> Apparently the answer. Somehow I missed that mail in all the ones I saw..

I've deleted quite some mails from my local box. And all I see in the
archive is
  http://www.mail-archive.com/l10n@global.libreoffice.org/msg10208.html
and
  http://www.mail-archive.com/l10n@global.libreoffice.org/msg10217.html

also refering to an explanation.
So - sorry - if you can please help me :)

Thanks,
Cor


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