Re: New Lab Request: Penihip - a name generator
Bernd Fondermann wrote: What crypto lib will you be using? None. The main product of the lab is a simple tool that does a basic encipher/decipher. -David - To unsubscribe, e-mail: labs-unsubscr...@labs.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: labs-h...@labs.apache.org
Re: New Lab Request: Penihip - a name generator
El lun, 25-05-2009 a las 15:46 +1000, David Crossley escribió: David Crossley wrote: I request a new lab to investigate building a tool to generate new words. Purpose: Generate new words by applying a caesar cipher to existing words. Thanks. I count four +1 from PMC members, plus one more. I will create the svn space, etc. Before importing the initial program code, would someone please help me understand the Handling Cryptography ... requirement. IIUC, then going by the list of points at: http://www.apache.org/dev/crypto.html#classify this lab would not need a notification, as its symmetric algorithm key length, is less than 56-bits. I am no crypto expert, so i am not even sure what is meant by key length in this case. The program uses a monoalphabetic substitution cipher i.e. the cipher alphabet is fixed for the whole process. It enables a specified number of characters to offset along the alphabet, which is fixed for the whole process. There are 21 consonants, so with an offset of 21 the consonants are the same as their original value. However, the vowels in that operation will be effectively offset by one. So what is the key size? Is it 1? My guess is that the key bit size is n, such as 2^n == number of different keys So, for a displacement encryption with 20 keys would amount to something like 5 bits keys, which is commensurate with how easy it is to decrypt. You need to add the bits generated by independent vowel displacement, but in any case I guess it is around or under 8 bits. No need for export notification, in any case... Regards Santiago -David - To unsubscribe, e-mail: labs-unsubscr...@labs.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: labs-h...@labs.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: labs-unsubscr...@labs.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: labs-h...@labs.apache.org
Re: New Lab Request: Penihip - a name generator
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:11 AM, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote:
I request a new lab to investigate building a tool to generate new words.
+1, nice idea!
+1 too!
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Re: New Lab Request: Penihip - a name generator
+1 [Might be good if it optionally took the name from the command-line, and generated it for all the 25 offsets.] On 15/05/2009, Bernd Fondermann bernd.fonderm...@googlemail.com wrote: +1, sounds... funny! Bernd On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:11, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote: I request a new lab to investigate building a tool to generate new words. Purpose: Generate new words by applying a caesar cipher to existing words. Description: New words are needed for software projects, usernames, commercial products. Using existing relevant words as a starting point, Penihip applies a specified offset number of characters to shift along the alphabet, thereby creating new words. The consonants and vowels are shifted within their own set. Therefore the generated words are more likely able to be spoken. It does not attempt to handle sentence structure, grammar, etc. or be a spoken language generator. The name penihip is the ciphertext achieved by one-right-shift using the plaintext word namegen (as in Name Generator). It is becoming ever harder to find names for products that are not already taken. Creating fanciful new names is one possibility. Status: There is a Perl script penihip as the initial implementation. See http://people.apache.org/~crossley/penihip/ Usage: Gather some words that describe your product. Words with length between four to seven characters seem to yield the best results. Follow the usage instructions to run the tool, e.g. ./penihip -e test-encipher-input.txt Search the internet to ensure that the new words are suitable. Use a bigger offset number of characters to try for other words, or apply a reverse cipher. Further work: Perhaps better handling of some cases where multiple vowels will create strange words. Improve the initial Perl implemenmtation. Perhaps other programming language implementations, e.g. Java. --- ?xml version=1.0? rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf=http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#; xmlns=http://usefulinc.com/ns/doap#; xmlns:foaf=http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/; xmlns:labs=http://labs.apache.org/doap-ext/1.0#; xmlns:projects=http://projects.apache.org/ns/asfext#; Project rdf:about=http://labs.apache.org/labs#penihip; namePenihip/name shortnamepenihip/shortname shortdesc xml:lang=en Generate new words by applying a caesar cipher to existing words. /shortdesc description xml:lang=en New words are needed for software projects, usernames, commercial products. Using existing relevant words as a starting point, Penihip applies a specified offset number of characters to shift along the alphabet, thereby creating new words. The consonants and vowels are shifted within their own set. Therefore the generated words are more likely able to be spoken. It does not attempt to handle sentence structure, grammar, etc. or be a spoken language generator. The name penihip is the ciphertext achieved by one-right-shift using the plaintext word namegen (as in Name Generator). /description homepage rdf:resource=http://labs.apache.org/penihip// license rdf:resource=http://usefulinc.com/doap/licenses/asl20/ created2009-05-15/created labs:statusactive/labs:status maintainer foaf:Person rdf:about=http://people.apache.org/~crossley/#me; foaf:nameDavid Crossley/foaf:name foaf:homepage rdf:resource=http://people.apache.org/~crossley// foaf:mbox_sha1sum462412894c3b84098b9ae2556f2f1ff99f64f360/foaf:mbox_sha1sum /foaf:Person /maintainer repository SVNRepository location rdf:resource=http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/labs/penihip// browse rdf:resource=http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/labs/penihip// /SVNRepository /repository programming-languagePerl/programming-language /Project /rdf:RDF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: labs-unsubscr...@labs.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: labs-h...@labs.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: labs-unsubscr...@labs.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: labs-h...@labs.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: labs-unsubscr...@labs.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: labs-h...@labs.apache.org
Re: New Lab Request: Penihip - a name generator
Santiago Gala wrote: +1 to the lab, BTW Some time ago, as in before jakarta existed and I was still using windows, between 1996 and 1999, there was a dutch java web site, open source, that had a number of very interesting small products, like chat applet, etc. One of the products was a syllabic password generator, that generated passwords by combining valid word fragments randomly. For some languages, for example Spanish, this generated words that are easy to remember and sound well. While the passwords were not so strong, they were easy enough to remember so that people would not scribble them in postit sheets on the screen... The idea is: creating words by combining valid morphemes from languages could be an alternative implementation that we could exploit in this project. I could even give a try to the idea. What do you think? Yes i think that that would fit with this lab. Thanks for your interest. That is different to my original idea, so i wonder if it should be a completely separate mode of the tool. My concept is for a new word to be generated from an existing relevant word. Perhaps it carries some of the power of the original word. Also the origin of the new words can be explained, e.g. Voni is one offset from the word Time. e.g. Wupo is two offsets from the word Time. Also the tool will encipher, and then decipher to the original seed word, e.g. 'penihip -d -o 1 Voni' will produce the word Time. e.g. 'penihip -d -o 2 Wupo' will produce the word Time. -David - To unsubscribe, e-mail: labs-unsubscr...@labs.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: labs-h...@labs.apache.org
