Re: [lace] altar cloth doubled thread question

2014-03-11 Thread B Krbechek
I am leaving the previous message below. It does not look like it went also to the list. Otherwise, excuse me. Yes, the new 2 or 3 ply will be Z twist and if I understand correctly, you would be working entirely with with the new Z twist thread. So, just wind the bobbins the opposite way.

Re: [lace] altar cloth doubled thread question

2014-03-11 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hi Lyn If you're looking to double a thread, do you go to something that is double the desired thread in wraps and double it? 80/2 Bockens is 28 wraps, so that doubled it would be 14. I realize that the best thing is to try it out, but I'd much rather stack the odds toward succeeding

Re: [lace] altar cloth doubled thread question

2014-03-11 Thread Lyn Bailey
Dear Brenda, Thank you so much for your response, which is packed with information. The way the Svenska Spetstar works, they sell the prickings. This particular pattern pricking is sold in 2 sizes. The larger pricking calls for 25/3 Bockens with 18/5 for the gimp, which is why I am using

Re: [lace] altar cloth doubled thread question

2014-03-11 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Most times when people use a thread doubled for BL they don't ply it, but just wind two threads onto each bobbin, which isn't really ideal though. If you did ply two strands of a 3S thread together it would become 3S/2Z, a cabled or double spun thread which would be firm and round - not

Re: [lace] altar cloth doubled thread question

2014-03-11 Thread Lyn Bailey
This doubling of a thread is much more complicated than I first imagined. One uses double yarn in knitting frequently, and it all works out well, usually. In this project there are all sorts of variables. The shape of the thread, the actual diameter of 2 threads together as opposed to a

Re: [lace] altar cloth doubled thread question

2014-03-11 Thread Bev Walker
Hello Lyn and everyone You raise another interesting point - comparing yarn doubled in knitting. The basic knitted structure is one strand, whether single, double, or more, interlooping, which differs from bobbin lace, two strands crossing each other - and I use the term 'cross' in the usual

Re: [lace] altar cloth doubled thread question

2014-03-11 Thread Sue Babbs
Is it just the gimp you are doubling, or the main thread as well? I got confused! Sue suebabbs...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site:

Re: [lace] altar cloth doubled thread question

2014-03-11 Thread lynrbailey
Dear Bev, I'm not sure I agree with you about the difference between knitting and bobbin lace, as both have threads that go over each other, but I suspect that it is because knitting is much more elastic, and therefore the threads would act differently. I think we can both agree completely that

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