Hello Rosemary,Regarding your question on classes, I am a lacemaker during the 
rare occasions when I actually have some free time! But in my day to day life I 
was a clinical microbiologist for 35 years before getting my certification in 
the field of infection prevention and control. As you can imagine, our 
profession has been completely immersed in the whole COVID-19 issue and the 
most effective ways to prevent the spread of the virus for hospitals, nursing 
homes, congregate living centers, as well as the average person living at home 
and trying to get on with their lives. It has been quite a ride! I thought I 
would offer my two cents to the discussion regarding lace classes. I would not 
risk damaging the bobbins, pillow, or lace by trying to disinfect. What I would 
recommend is class members sit at least 6 feet away from each other and mask. 
Each lacemaker should have hand sanitizer available. If an instructor needs to 
touch your pins or bobbins, they should sanitize their!
  hands first. Correctly sanitized hands will not deposit the virus on 
surfaces. When I was 12 years old and my grandmother taught me to tat, she 
strongly emphasized cleaning your hands before tatting, and frequently during 
tatting if spending more than 30 minutes at it. That helped to keep the lace 
clean since it was constantly being handled. When I learned to hand quilt, I 
received the same instruction-- always clean hands before starting and 
frequently during the process to keep the thread and fabric clean and free from 
sweat and skin oils. So even before COVID, clean hands for lacemaking was a 
thing! You should sanitize your hands before starting, anyone who touches your 
belongings should sanitize first, and as with anything, clean your hands when 
you are done!In order for masks to work, people need to mask appropriately and 
completely. That means BOTH nose and mouth must be completely covered. Do not 
touch the mask while wearing it, or if you have to, then clean your h!
 ands afterwards. Remember that wearing a mask below your nose does abs
olutely nothing. If that is how you plan to wear it, you might as well just 
take it off. By the same token, if you want the hand sanitizer to work it must 
be used correctly. I can't tell you the amount of sanitizer I have seen 
completely wasted because it wasn't used correctly so it was ineffective. Use 
about a quarter-sized dollop of alcohol sanitizer in the palm of your hand. 
Briskly rub it on the ENTIRE SURFACE of both hands. That means front, back, 
between fingers, thumbs, finger tips, and wrists. Every bit of the skin of both 
hands should be wet. Continue rubbing the entire surface of the front and back 
of both hands until they are dry. Do NOT blot away excess with a tissue. Rub 
till they're dry. It should take 20-30 seconds. If they dry sooner, you 
probably haven't used enough of the product. If it takes longer, chances are 
you haven't spread it around sufficiently.Lastly, no one should come if they 
are symptomatic. Even if they are sure it is just allergies or just a!
  cold, symotoms= stay home. As far as gloves, we strongly discourage the use 
of gloves unless you anticipate coming in contact with highly contaminated 
objects or liquids. So healthcare personnel wear gloves in specific instances 
while providing care for patients, but outside of that, gloves tend to do more 
harm than good.  Study after study show that people wearing gloves have a 
false sense of security and end up with far higher levels of contamination on 
their clothing, belongings, and skin than people who just clean their hands 
after touching a potentially contaminated surface. Gloves become increasingly 
permeable when they get wet-- and that includes the moisture from your hands 
sweating inside the glove. So unless you are going to be exposed to blood or 
are providing wound care or some such thing, frequent hand sanitizing is far 
preferable to gloving.So if you communicated that everyone would need to 
djstance appropriately, wear a mask correctly for the entire time t!
 hey were in class, made sure everyone knew not to come if they had sym
ptoms, and had everyone hand sanituze upon entry and before touching anything 
belonging to another, you should be able to have a class. Most people know all 
this anyway, they just may need reminders about how to wear the mask and hand 
sanitize correctly. Hope that helps!Elise in Maine--  CIC, M(ASCP)Sent from 
my  U.S.Cellular© Smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: "N.A. Neff" <nancy.a.n...@gmail.com> 
Date: 8/14/20  5:17 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Rosemary <rjbrow...@virginmedia.com>, 
Arachne <lace@arachne.com> Subject: Re: [lace] Return to class Hi Rosemary,I am 
not a teacher but I've kept up on some of the relative risks, and 
theeffectiveness of some mitigation steps, and perhaps can offer a 
fewsuggestions.Transmission via touching surfaces appears to be very rare for 
this virus.If two things were done, everybody could handle everybody else's 
bobbinswith very close to zero risk. 1) Everyone wash their hands thoroughly 
atthe start of class, and again after each time they touch their face ortheir 
mask, and 2) after washing their hands, everyone wipe their bobbinsat the start 
of class with a cloth dampened with 90% or higher isopropylalcohol. (It doesn't 
have to be dripping nor the bobbins rubbed, so itwon't damage any finishes 
)Transmission is almost entirely respiratory, either via fine droplets orvia !
 aerosols of virus particles. The former are what fall from the airwithin about 
6 feet -- hence the personal distancing -- and are blocked byproperly worn 
masks.The latter, however, the virus particles, don't fall out of the air, and 
incrowded settings with poor ventilation can become quite concentrated,leading 
to high rates of transmission. Most masks don't block theseparticles. The main 
defense here is ventilation because one's risk ofinfection is directly related 
to the size of the dose of virus you get. Soyou need to dilute the 
concentration of airborne virus, or blow it awayaltogether.By far the best 
thing is to hold your class outside, with fans if thereisn't a gentle breeze. 
The next best would be inside in as big a room aspossible, with outside air 
coming in, and fans preventing pockets of staleair. In those situations, if you 
both have masks on, it would be safe forboth a student and the teacher for one 
to look over the other's shoulder,etc.Finally, remember, all th!
 is is protection just in case you or someone inyour class is actually 
sick with covid. The best protection is for everyoneto agree not to come to 
class if they have a dry cough, trouble breathing,or lose their sense of taste 
or smell. And take everyone's temperature whenthey arrive for class -- no one 
should attend with a temp of 37.5��C orabove.In summary, from what I've 
read recently, ventilation is what's really key.I hope some of this helps. I 
can dig up a few articles that would citereferences if you would like 
them.NancyNancy A. NeffConnecticut, USAOn Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 15:31 Rosemary 
<rjbrow...@virginmedia.com> wrote:>> I am planning  how to return to teaching 
my lace class.>Have any of you returned to teaching in class? Do please share 
your> experiences of how Covid has changed your practices.>> Rosemary Brown>-To 
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