Well, the bobbins don't appear to be a Set as I understand it.
The tops and tails indicate - to me - that they were made by different makers,
for a start.
There does not seem to be any continuity between them - Pairs of bobbins, yes,
but not a set.
I don't know anything about the bobbin makers, bu
Glad we could help, Clay.
I am glad to hear the whole class was entertained and "educated" by all the
cards.
They make learning at school SO much more interesting these days, don't they.
Lace content - I had a couple of hours at the Powerhouse Museum Lace Stuidy
Centre ain sydney a couple of wee
Yes, David, I have used the Turps and polystyrene, but not for a long time
now.
It needs the really expensive turps, (pure distilled?) rather than the
ordinary cheap stuff, and small pieces of the polystyrene is dissolved in it.
Depending how stiff you want as to how many bits you drop in. I used
The garnet inlays remind me very much of some of the Viking burial ship hoard
?Sutton Hoo. There were some exquisite garnet inlaid pieces there, - buckles,
I think. This is such an exciting find - for lovers of history, anyway!
Lace content - I have just started a Bucks Point handkie edge. It is
Thank you for that Gros Point link., Excellent, and such good close-ups to
explain various anomalies!
Very sorry, Vivienne, to hear of the passing of your bobbin maker and friend.
A Sad loss.
Just a note to all those Aussies who write to anyone on a "Comcast" address -
try sending your letters Pr
The one thing to remember with square tallies, to get them to look good, is to
have the centre passive change sides.- if you use bobbin #2 as the worker,
then it must end in the #3 spot, and the #3 passive will then become #2. (I
hope this is clear.
It is referred to as the Gate method - like the
Bev said "I still need to work on picot-edged tallies "
Please explain these tallies - they sound Intriguing!! I tend to get
unwanted "picots" sometimes (just loose loops on the sides!) - but a bit of
back-tracking, and I can then tension them up properly!!!
But to deliberately make picots
Pene, an aficot is a tool that is used to smooth out and 'polish' lace, - as
far as I know.
www.guildofneedlelaces.org may have one on show in their For Sale section.
They say (in the magazine, where there is a photo of one) it is "a tool
originally devised from a lobster claw used to lay and bur
Well done, Tess.That was Very interesting.
I have never seen a tally made that way, - but you make it look so easy!
Using Midlands bobbins might make it a bit hard, but using the Continentals is
a good idea.
I hold the 3 passives in the left hand and , going tail/spangle first, I weave
the worker
I demonstrate lacemaking annually at a Pioneer Homestead here in the outer
eastern suburbs of Melbourne. The house was built of stone hewn from a local
quarry, around 1860, and all the doors to the rooms are on the outside, along
a verandah! there is a brick removed from the living room/kitchen wa
Hi, Bronwen,
I, too make needlelace (and bobbin lace) and there are quite a few of us on
the list, - so No, it is not just for bobbin lacers!
I, too, like the early laces, and do a lot of Retucells (punto in aria), and
Gros point, too. I like the florals of Point de Gaze, and I have now also
"di
Gina, I like a challenge too, - but not one that gets me too frustrated. I am
prepared to go back, and undo to a certain extent, but when it constantly
happens at every repeat or every few minutes, then the Fun goes out of it, -
and the lace goes out the window - well almost! :))
I t
Gina, Noelene, has got in first!! I was about to mention Rosemary Shepherd's
new book on the Early laces. It has a few patterns and very clear working
diagrams, and a lot of history about the early laces, threads, etc. A very
interesting read.
Like Noelene, I am trying out one of her patterns, -
Francis , I am SO enjoying your travelogue!!
We have travelled from Melbourne, Australia to USA on a few occasions, and I
understand your difficulties!!
We have a 15 hour non-stop trip from Melbourne to Los Angelese. I have a short
but stout DH who has difficulties fitting into the plane seats!
A
Thanks for that URL..Interesting - and her Guipure d'Art takes Filet lace to a
whole new dimension!!!
Some great ideas hidden away there.
Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz
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Yes, it looks like a lifting stick for needlelacers.
The Guild of Needlelaces sells them for £4.50!!
Contratulations, Pene, for your 2nd prize. What a teriffic display of lace
you had. Well done to the whole group who participated. Thanks for the URL
so we could enjoy the diplay, too.
Regards
Oooh! Avital, those gorgeous Oya flowers are enough to make me go back and
have another try at the knotted needlelace!!
Thanks for the URL
Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz.
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I managed to get a copy of The Lace Reader from the Library, and I, too
enjoyed the book, - though, as you say, Clay, there was not much lacemaking in
it. Just a good mystery.
Oh, Sherry! I would want to keep that beaded lace too!!! :)) (and I love the
background pattern on your blogspot, too.
I think my favourite piece of lace is my Plastron - Mixed lace - bobbin lace
on the outside and needlelace in the centre.
It is shown on my community webshots page labelled, I think, Triennial 2000.
It won First prize!!
I took the design from a photo of an antique piece featured in Catherine
Barle
Thank you Ann, for putting up the method. I was going nuts getting
nowhere!! :))
Easy when you know how!!! :))
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Can you make a band using elastic?
I have a small wooden winder - the sort with a fly wheel, and I made a great
'rubber band' using some elastic. I stitched the ends together - not a knot -
and it works perfectly. I admit I don't use it very much, as the handle/knob
to turn the wheel is so small,
I will reply to Mica off list.
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I had a friend who made a bride a beautiful wedding handkie, that was loved
and admired by all - including the bride. But after the wedding it went
missing and was never seen again - They think it was collected up from the
table with the serviettes/napkins, and vanished that way.
So my friend mad
I received my Guild of Needlelaces magazine today, so will have a good read
tonight, - just before Lights Out!!!
I have only had a quick flip through, - but an interesting article on Ruskin
Lace, with a beaut bag etc in that lace on the front cover. Other
interesting-looking articles, too, and som
Devon, perhaps you should look a bit further afield for accomodation, as
everything is so close toghether over there, that the next town is not very
far away!! (Well, by Australian standards, anyway!!! :)) )
We were staying in Lydford House Hotel, Lydford, near Tavistock, (family
owned it then)
Helen,
A good way to secure the bobbins when travelling with a UFO, - Use the
knitting Stitch holders to secure the bobbins in groups, and pin them down, if
you can, with Berry pins.
Then, cut the legs off an old pr pantyhose,. knot off the 'stumps fo the
legs"(easier if you do this before cutting
I am like you, Alice - I too, like a different sized Gimp bobbin, so I know
when I have reached it by the feel of the fatter shank.
Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz.
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I am just back from a Lace Day, and David Collyer came (we haven't seen him
for Ages), and brought both his Tonder lace edging and Miss Channer Mat! The
Mat has been beautifully framed and looks Stunning! Whoever did the framing
did a really good job, and it really compliments the beautiful lace.
"many from an Australian bobbin maker who retired "
Leon Young?
He was the first of the Husbands who made bobbins for sale from the late 1970s
or early 1980s onwards into the '90s. -- Nice bobbins, too!!! :)) I wish
I had more of his bobbins!
Clay seems to have given you some very good advi
"Anyway, I have decided to try a piece from Yvonne Scheele-Kerkhof's
beautiful
Floral Bedfordshire book, and hope I don't upset the purists by making Beds
in
colored silk. Is it always made in cotton?
Janice"
I made a couple of Springett's Beds handkie edges in silk, and mounted them on
some cre
I once had a new student like yours, Debbie in Florida.
My student had done some weaving, so she almost immediately "saw" what was
going on, and happily went on her way. She came for lessons that I am sure
she really did not need, as she understood each pattern I presented to her,
straight away, a
I was always told that you could only sell lace from your own design.
Also - I was taught that you could not teach from someone elses book. You had
to design your own patterns.
However, if a student came to you with a book, you could teach her from it, as
she had purchased the rights to use the b
I was taught to tie a reef knot, then one more single knot (3 knots), and then
to couch down the knot onto the lace using one of the 4 threads. This way the
know will stay out of sight, and the ends are trimmed away close to the knot.
It can be a bit lumpy sometimes, but the knots Never come undone
Brenda
Q 1)I would choose cotton for almost everthing, with silk for the scarf.
Q 2) 40 w/cm linen in colours fine enough for Bucks Point. -- We can hope!!!
:))
Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz, where it has been a glorious autumn day, -
but Oh for some rain?
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No, I have not received my Bulletin yet.
Sometimes the International ones arrive before they reach the USA folks, but
not this time.!
I Watch out for the Postie every day, but so far he has only brought bills!!
:((
I renewed my Membership in March, though it was not due, I think, for a couple
of m
Eve, - those bangles are Great. I Love them. - especially the pretty
pink/purple one!! (My favourite colours!!)
Are they your own designs, or are they readily available patterns?
Did you work them onto the bangles as you went, or did you stitch them on
afterwards?
Striver Pins - when I go to
Happy Birthday Arachne, and I hope you have many many more!!
I joined in 2002, when I first got a computer, and managed to fathom out how
it worked. I had visited daughter, Helen Bell, - the Aussie in Denver, and
watched her on the computer, and eventually got persuaded that I should have
one - e
Very many thanks for the replies to my query.
I thought the bangles would be available, but felt that I should just check
first!!
Gratefully,
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Thank you for the survey ( and yes,- I participated!!), and for publishing the
results.
However, if you ever do another one, - can it have a bigger section for
Needlelacers, please - and tatters too.. I would have liked to answer some
questions as a needlelacer, as I do more NL than BL these days
David - From your list of long-lost Arachnids - I can tell you that Dr. Penny
Boston now lives in New Mexico, (I think that is right) but is still, I
think, a member of the Rocky Mts Lace Guild. She still makes lace - and was
in my class at the Denver Convention in 2005, - and is still the same,
Re holding a spangle to use the bobbin.
Sorry - No offence was meant. I was taight that it was a "Terrible Crime" to
hold the spangle, not the shank of the bobbin, as the spangles can break, -
but if it is the difference between making lace, and Not making lace - then -
Go for it. I heartily agr
Hi, Brian
And I replied to you privately, too
No, I can tell you a Leopard bobbin does Not ward off arthritis!!! :))My
late friend had Gold injections to try to help her, - but not Pewter! :)
However, they are pretty on the pillow working away amongst all the other
pretty bobbi
" In the old days one Always had a leopard bobbin( wood with pewter spots)
on
the pillow, to ward off arthritis."
Patty - I would not hold your breath, if I were you!! :)) Sorry!!
Still you never know! Some of these old remedies Do
work! :)) With arthritic fin
That was very interesting about pewter.
I have an old wooden bobbin with pewter spots, - that is no longer nice to
use, as the pewter spots have expanded, and are very rough on the fingers, as
well as snagging on other threads.
I was told it was corroding pewter, which expands as it corrodes.
In
"Susan, in Erie" ..
Please excuse my ignorance - but where are you?
I can't imagine 142.5 Inches of snow! - Except for pictures of the Himalayas,
and Antarctica, -- and the North Pole, of course!! :))
Lee Daly - that is lovely lace. Well done.
Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz
lizl.
A good survey, Brenda, and I have filled it in - with my answers pointed at
Bobbin lace, although I seem to do more needlelace these days.
Let us know when another survey is done, and I will happily participate.
Re marking patterns - I find with some Floral Beds patterns it is hard to see
what is
I use most of my old bobbins - one dated 1842, and a Hanging bobbin, etc. I
have one of Grandma's old bone bobbins in the safe - as it has a chipped head,
and snags the thread! It is very old, so was passed down to Grandma from ?
her grandma!
One bone one with my Great Granma/s name on it , date
the thought of their students getting better than them.
This is just the reason some teachers Never tell you all you should learn!
Some people are afraid of anyone knowing as much as they do.
I feel sorry for them - they miss out on a lot! (and I get a bit angry about
it!)
I feel that if a stud
I did one small 9 pin edge with my Grandmother when I was about 19,in England,
then did not make any lace till I was about 40/41and living here in Oz..
I managed to find a course of 8 lessons somewhere nearby, and joined the group
of 5 or 6 with the teacher.
However, she went around the table st
Alice - there is a very good beginners book by Rosemary Shepherd that is well
tried and recommended over here in Oz.
Introduction to Bobbin lacemaking. I am sure she would be happy to post a
copy/s to you. she is a lovely lady, and has SO much knowledge. She was
curator at the Powerhouse Museum
Firstly, - congratulations to both David and Thurlow. I am sure it was a
stunning performance. It sounds like it was wonderful with the different
bands joining in. Well done, both of you.
Glad you were able to incorporate some lace in our outfit, David. It must
have looked great against the bl
"The Lace of the Robber Barons," That sounds OK Devon.
Whatever you all it - it was a fascinating and very entertaining and
informative talk, beautifully presented. I thoroughly enjoyed it - and so
did my DH , when we were in Denver - IOLI Convention 2005.
H! I really had not noticed the
I always use the one word - Lacemaking.
However, about an hour ago, I was googling a site, and they would only accept
lace making!!! G!!
It appears the majority of us like the "one word variation", - so go with
that, I say!!!
I make lace so I am a Lacemaker :)) (perfectly logic
Those ruffs must have been awefully uncomfortable to wear!!
I wonder how many yards/metres there were in the ruffs. does anyone know?
I know there has been something on a web site as to how to make a ruff using
the wired ribbon - and she used about 2 metrs I think.
However these ones would have
I think "Sir Walter Raleigh" was written on the back of the portrait, which is
why it was thought to be him not Shakespeare.
However, many of the Aristocracy look very similar in these 16th C paintings.
The person on the cover of the Renaissance Miniatures book looks very similar,
and so does the
Thank you Lindy for that link.
And David - Gosh, fancy looking at his eyes when there is such beautiful lace
to look at :))
However - in the close up, he has one eye slightly lighter than the other -
but they are both dark - as far as I can see, -- so I think it is just the
lighting
Personally, I really don't care if it was Shakespeare's collar or not - I just
Love it, and wish we could see a better close up of the Reticella
However, - I would think that it most probably was his own, as by then he was
famous, and quite "Someone", so could most probably afford this one spe
..."A visitor asked me what had been used for bobbins before we had
plastic."
Oh dear!! :( and Bone bobbins look SO nice on a pillow, too! I
hope you wern't too rude, Devon! :)
Alex - I am with you all the way - re colouring and marking your prickings to
help make the lace
While demonstrating last year at an annual 'festivel', I was making a piece of
Beds lace - A Christine springett pattern, and I was working in purple
thread.
I had just made myself a Biscornu Pin cushion , the Hardanger embroidery in a
purpleish variegated thread, which looked nice on the pillow!
David, - you are amazing!!! It will look Beautiful when completed.
I have it on my "to do - soon" list, - but it certainly won't be in
Black!!! My old eyes would never see it!!
It will be in a 'sort of' Bucks Point - --however I can make it!!
:))
Thank you, Julian, for the web s
Congratulations David. That is a Beautiful piece fo lace. I hope you bring it
to a Lace Day sometime - soon!!
We have missed seeing you recently.
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some of the students kept tubs of cold
water under their desks and soaked their feet while they
worked.
This sounds like the opposite of the "Old Days" when the lacemakers bought a
farthing's worth of hot coals from the bakery, on their way to Lace School,
and put them in the Dickey Pot, and und
Yes, Helene was safe from the bush fires, and is now in France, I believe..
Like me, she lives in Melbourne. Shirley Meier, also on this list, is safe,
too, although she lives in Geelong.
I have not heard of any lacemakers who have been caught in the fires. We are
all keeping our fingers crossed,
Thank you Sue Fink for your concern and a big thank you to our NZ 'cousins".
They have sent some fire fighters over to help, and to give some of our Heros
a break and rest and sleep.
I use the word 'Heros' in its truest sense. They are just wonderful,
wonderful people who work till they drop, -
That was an interesting message about the Barman lace machines.
Some years ago the Victorian Branch of the Oz., Lace Guild took a group of us
to a "Lace Manufacturey". We were the first ever group to be shown through the
factory, so they did not know quite how to deal with us!! It was SO
interest
Whew!!! It is H.O.T. here - about 44ºC - well beyond a joke! And
Very strong winds.
They Say there will be a cool change arriving about 6 - 7pm -this evening. I
just hope they are right!
Now - Help/advice please.
I need to use gold thread in Needlelace - for the cordonette ar
Happy Australia Day to all lacemakers - but especially to all ex-Pats
throughout the world. Hope you can have a pie, or Vegemite sandwich, washed
down with a cold beer, - and followed by a big piece of Pavlova - and/or a
laminton.! :))
Regards from Liz in drought-stricken
There is at least one group of Morris Dancers here in Melbourne, Oz.
I remember one group, in England named, I think, the Luton Hatters!!
It is Very energetic dancing, - the film does not show this up. The staves -
if not used properly can really damage a finger or hand, as they whack them
togeth
The beauty of Polycotton thread is that is holds its shape, and never
creases!!
The bad part is that it is springy and wants to do it's own thing, - not what
I want it to do! The half-hitch does not always stay done up for one thing.
However, I find lace made from a good polycotton is useful, - e
I almost Always do needlelace in the hand.
I have a pillow, made from a large coffee tine, and covered with padding and
dark cotton fabric, but I rarely use it.
I prefer to "slouch on the couch" and work with the pad in my hand, rather
than sit up "proper;y" and hunch over the pillow in my lap.
I
I had that problem a couple of years ago, - and found out that the Warning was
because the business, or web site, or whatever was being put into Peter's
name, as his wife had died. Some clearance with the paperwork had not been
completed at that time. Try your "refresh" button.
As far as I know,
I made my NL pillow from a coffee tin, wrapped in layers of wool dressinggown
fabric, and covered in dark blue cotton.
I have a length of dowel to push under the pattern to lift it where I am
working.
Finished size is about 6½ inches long, and 6inches in diameter. It can sit on
my lap, or, more o
Janice B. You mention "my big birthday, Monday 12th Jan"
Happy Birthday, - I am Far too polite to ask how Big it is! :))
I presume it has a 0 after the first digit!!
Enjoy the day - and try to find time to do the usual '6 pins of lace'.That way
I Know you will enjoy some part of the day a
I have emailed Ilske off list with Helene Gannac's address.
Regards from Liz in Melbourne
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Welcome back!!
I just went there to see if it has changed, and it looks the same. Well done
Webmaster/s and thank you.
However, I went to the Eunice Sein Koon Lace but only got a mostly blank
space. there was a tiny box with a red X, but it did not do anything. Pity,
I was hoping to see some
I have received my IOLI Bulletin - at last, - and I see on page 31 a photo of
ladies with their "Christine" Pillows, which all have a little metal stand and
tool tray hovering above the pillow.
I have not seen these before, and wonder if they fit Any pillow, and if so -
where do you get them?
They
Jane said - "... researching DH's family tree (he is descended from a lot of
lacemakers
in Bedfordshire,..."
Jane Partridge
Well, Jane, I come from a long line of lacemakers in Bedfordshire, too, - and
my Great Grandfather's surname was Parrott - --- so I am wondering what all
these b
Many of the old traditions were taken by the early Christians from the pagan
tribes, and Druids that they over-ran, anyway!
They Assimilated, and used whatever "nice" parts of the indigenous traditions
they thought were good, and added their own traditions, - so it is all a big
mix, anyway.
Catte
So sorry to hear of Nellie';s passing. She came out to Oz a few years ago,
and gave a delightful talk at our Lace Day, and showed some beautiful lace.
She signed my copy of her book, - so that makes it very special.
Re Harry Armstrong's Lace Factory - it makes you weep, doesn't it, - to think
of
I made myself one of the cloth-wrapped tunes for carrying lace around, and it
works beautifully. I used the hard cardboard core from Gladwrap and used some
calico for the fabrif - the core goes near the centre of the length of
fabric, and is stitched tic=ght into it, - then that give me 2 layers
Janice, - there is an Aussie lacemaker currently living in Santiago, and there
is a small group of ladies who meet regularly there.
I will pass on your email address to Chelle, who I have known for many years,
and maybe she can contact you direct.
Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz
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We were all expecting the exchange rate to
improve that we can order books and things but the opposite is happening.
Jeanette Fischer, Western Cape, South Africa.
We thought the same over here in Australia, Jeanette. Our dollar has dropped
about 22c over the last couple of weeks, against the US
Another thought - I made myself a large pad (larger than the pricking) and
used that on top of my pillow, when I made a large piuece of lace. I could
then lift the pad off the pillow and repositionon it, as aI worked down sthe
pricking.
Someone here on Arachne described seein some lacemakers on t
A lovely tablecloth. Well done.
Large patterns on pillows can be a pain, I know. I tilt my pillow up at the
back,(quite a bit, sometimes) which makes reaching over not quite so bad.
sitting high - ie, on a stool might help. It will make you lean over the
pillow more, but might make reaching the
Diana has got in before me! The raised pewter is due to rusting. I have one
- an old one of my Grandmothers (or Great Grandmothers!), and it is almost
impossible to use, as the raised spots are rough on the fingers, to say the
least.
Snagging other threads is another hazzard!
The spots would hav
Devon said-"the name Doretta Davanzo Poli coming up in my mental file "...
Devon, this is the person who wrote, or edited, "il Merletto Veneziano" a
beaut book I have, which I bought with some prize money from a lace
competition. As the text is all in Italian, I can only understand a few
words, -
I have heard of a few items "disappearing" at lace days, - and I think it is
dreadful that another lacemaker would do such a thing.
When I am demonstrating, I have lace on display - but aways pinned up on a
display board behind me.
I was doing kit piece at a Stitches and Craft show many years ag
Tamara said:-
I'm lazy enough not to want to make
twice what can be made once :)
I can understand that - and go along with it :))
I Must give those "bumps" a go, instead of raised tallies!! I enjoy doing
some of the Elizabethan lace - and can add the bumps into many of the
patterns, I
I have one of these Linen Testers. They sit on the lace/fabric, and the
magnifier is about an inch + above the cut-out base, which has graduation
marks around it, and you can count the number of threads per inch with them.
It is very useful, and fold down flat, to fit into it's tiny box and is So
You are naughty, too, Tamara - for giving me the idea of doing tiny plaits in
the crossings
Now I have to find another piece to try it out on! :))
I presume you mean like the piece you offered us in IOLI Bulletin.
Fascinating article, by the way. I really enjoyed it, and re
The Practical Skills book - page 103 shows a cloth stitch centre, where the
Honiton Blossom ground has a hole in the centre - the centre threads each have
one twist on them which makes the hole.
It is a very pretty filling.
Helen - a raised tally in the centre? - Oh! what a great idea - I must tr
Yes, Maxine - that is a bobbin winder. My Grandmother had a nice one like
that in England, many years ago. (before I started making lace, though, - so I
suppose it was thrown away when she died.).
The word "crochet" does not belong there!!! the word "Lace" does belong
there!!!
Hooray - s
http://www.ivarose.com/inc/sdetail/9545
Has anyone bought any books from this place? I had not heard of it before,
but there seem to be some interesting old publications there, and I wondered
if they were a reliable place to shop.
Talking of which --- does anyone do Puncetto - (Punto Valesiano)?
That is an excellent video of how to do hitches.
I have used the split straws when using a metallic thread, - when the thread
had a mind of it's own! It worked very well.
Regards from Liz in cold, grey, Melbourne
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Things have a tendency to drift off to one side, which can be annoying,
to say the least.
Now you tell me!! :))
I did the table ribbon for IOLI competition the other year on a roller pillw.
I did not join up the pattern, as I had ends to the piece, but let the pattern
hang out the back of
Wendy, I have some bone bobbins - both new and antique, and I have not had any
break.
I have one with 1842 engraved on it - and it is as good as new - well, almost
- it has made many miles of lace I would think!!
If you fancy some bone bobbins - Go for it. With the usual care, they will
last for
I love the smooth silky feel of bone bobbins, - but can't afford them very
often, unfortunately.
Wood - well, I go for the feel of them, and go for the smooth silky feel, if I
have a choice.
The Acrylic bobbins have the nice feel that I like, too.
Isn't it a good thing we all like something diffe
Yes, Ricky T, Noelene from Cooma is a Great poet, and there is a poem for
just about every lacey happening you can think of, - and some Non-lacey
happenings, too!!
She seems to be able to produce a wonderful poem almost "on demand".
I believe she has reprinted her little book of poems recently.
Some years ago, while browsing through some old ? Victorian or early 20th
Century "Ladies Handcraft books" in a little off-beat museum, I found a
chapter on Lacemaking, - and there, too, it said to put up the pins, and then
wind the threads around them! :))
It seems to be a general mis-co
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