[lace] Lacemaking in Colonial Spanish America-Brazil

2020-02-25 Thread Devon Thein
Many thanks to Jo for that fantastic picture of a lacemaker seated behind a huge bolster as in the picture from the Codex. Many thanks also to Deborah for the suggestion that it is a banana leaf pillow from Brazil, based on Portuguese lace pillows. I have been looking for other examples on the

Re: [lace] Lacemaking in Colonial Spanish America

2020-02-16 Thread Maria Greil
Hello Carolina and to all of the rest of the arachneans, I have read your comments with great interest, but since I am no expert in the lace made in the Hispanic colonies, I have nothing to say to the opinion of Carolina de la Guardia: she has been working in that field for a couple of years and

RE: [lace] Lacemaking in Colonial Spanish America

2020-02-16 Thread jo
The two colors might be the color of the pricking and the color of the thread. Jo > ... as the pattern seems to take 2 colors ... Kim - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com.

Re: [lace] Lacemaking in Colonial Spanish America

2020-02-16 Thread cadega2
The artifacts in the hands of the lady in the picture I think that they are clearly bobbins. By the way very well represented. What really surprises me is the lace displayed on the big pillow, as the Codex is dated in 18th century. This is older than The picture that Bev has contributed with

Re: [lace] Lacemaking in Colonial Spanish America

2020-02-15 Thread Adele Shaak
I think she’s making bobbin lace, all right. If you’re describing something in a manuscript that also contains information about lots of other things, your space is probably limited. You get the most bang for your buck, illustration-wise, by depicting several things at once. So you draw a

Re: [lace] Lacemaking in Colonial Spanish America

2020-02-15 Thread Bev Walker
Hello Devon, Sue and everyone It could be a giant pillow! Check the photo on this page for the lace museum at Arenys de Mar.in Spain, even though about two centuries later than the codex. The technology was earlier known? http://www.arenysdemar.org/museu/index_i.htm On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 5:45

Re: [lace] Lacemaking in Colonial Spanish America

2020-02-15 Thread Kim Davis
Fascinating topic! The structure she is working on looks much more like a loom than a pillow. I know very little about weaving, but there is at least one type that uses bobbins. The textile which is coming off of the back also looks more like a weaving or tapestry as the pattern seems to take 2

Re: [lace] Lacemaking in Colonial Spanish America

2020-02-15 Thread Devon Thein
Yes, it is a very large pillow. Many of the other images in the Codex show examples of industry. I don't know if there are some of these that are out of scale in an effort to focus on the process, since I don't really know what the industry is. Also, perhaps someone is trying to draw something

[lace] Lacemaking in Colonial Spanish America (second try)

2020-02-15 Thread Devon Thein
About 20 years ago I received a question about whether lace was being made in Colonial Spanish America. I did not know the answer. I asked a curator at he Hispanic Society. He didn’t know, but he said it was very likely because the Spanish tended to set up these industries in their colonies. I

Re: [lace] Lacemaking in Colonial Spanish America

2020-02-15 Thread suebabbs385
If she is making bobbin lace, it's on a giant pillow! Sue suebabbs...@gmail.com - Mestiza de Valles texiendo trensilla. This seems to mean Mestizo woman weaving braid. Does this show a woman making bobbin lace? What do people think about this? Here is the link:

[lace] Lacemaking in Colonial Spanish America

2020-02-15 Thread DevonThein
About 20 years ago I received a question about whether lace was being made in Colonial Spanish America. I did not know the answer. I asked a curator at he Hispanic Society. He didn’t know, but he said it was very likely because the Spanish tended to set up these industries in their colonies. I