Thanks for sharing the info to us, the lacing ? community!
Regards
Manie
Go to
http://www.svenskaspetsar.se/ To see what they sell, go to the list on the
left, click on Startsida right below Produkter and you will get to the list of
their products. For the prickings, click on Monster. For
cloth doubled thread question
Hi Lyn
On 11 Mar 2014, at 21:47, Lyn Bailey wrote:
The way the Svenska Spetstar works, they sell the prickings. This
particular pattern pricking is sold in 2 sizes. The larger pricking calls
for 25/3 Bockens with 18/5 for the gimp, which is why I am using those
Go to
http://www.svenskaspetsar.se/ To see what they sell, go to the list on the
left, click on Startsida right below Produkter and you will get to the list of
their products. For the prickings, click on Monster. For the altar prickings,
click on altarspets. Unfortunately, the site is only
I am leaving the previous message below.
It does not look like it went also to the list. Otherwise, excuse me.
Yes, the new 2 or 3 ply will be Z twist and if I understand correctly,
you would be working entirely with
with the new Z twist thread.
So, just wind the bobbins the opposite way.
Hi Lyn
If you're looking to double a thread, do you go to something that is double
the desired thread in wraps and double it? 80/2 Bockens is 28 wraps, so
that doubled it would be 14. I realize that the best thing is to try it out,
but I'd much rather stack the odds toward succeeding
Dear Brenda,
Thank you so much for your response, which is packed with information.
The way the Svenska Spetstar works, they sell the prickings. This
particular pattern pricking is sold in 2 sizes. The larger pricking calls
for 25/3 Bockens with 18/5 for the gimp, which is why I am using
Most times when people use a thread doubled for BL they don't ply it, but just
wind two threads onto each bobbin, which isn't really ideal though.
If you did ply two strands of a 3S thread together it would become 3S/2Z, a
cabled or double spun thread which would be firm and round - not
This doubling of a thread is much more complicated than I first imagined.
One uses double yarn in knitting frequently, and it all works out well,
usually. In this project there are all sorts of variables. The shape of
the thread, the actual diameter of 2 threads together as opposed to a
Hello Lyn and everyone
You raise another interesting point - comparing yarn doubled in knitting.
The basic knitted structure is one strand, whether single, double, or more,
interlooping, which differs from bobbin lace, two strands crossing each
other - and I use the term 'cross' in the usual
Is it just the gimp you are doubling, or the main thread as well? I got
confused!
Sue
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Dear Bev,
I'm not sure I agree with you about the difference between knitting and
bobbin lace, as both have threads that go over each other, but I suspect
that it is because knitting is much more elastic, and therefore the
threads would act differently. I think we can both agree completely that
I am about an inch away from completing the altar cloth. That's a total of
134 inches, 3 2/3 yards, or 3 meters, 35 cm. Makes me feel good. But now I
want to go on and make the larger pricking for the communion table. Same
pattern, but bigger. The thread called for is Bockens 25/3 with 18/5
I have never tried this doubling process, but my first thought is that there
might be a significant difference in effect between a three ply thread for
which a cross section would be round, and two round threads sitting next to
each other for which a cross section would be more like a rectangle
Good point, Devon. I wonder if that means tripling would be better. No way
to tell unless one does a sample. There is a cloth stitch area on the edges
that works like a tape, and is only 5 pairs. I wonder if just doing that
cloth stitch part would help define what works better without
Regarding doubling and trebling threads:
I would get my spinning wheel out and ply the two or three together.
Just an idea.
Blanche
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