Weronika, Tamara and other Spiders, The earlier discussion on the hands-up hands-down subject must have been before I joined Arachne. I switched to what appears for me to something between hands up/down what worked well for me. I show on my site how I use a cookie-pillow and overcame the problem of the bobbins all wanting to hang in the center due to gravity. http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/hang-EN.html http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/kant-EN.html I did not know by then of the "kloepelkaemme" used in eastern Europe for the same purpose. I added some examples between the german links on my site. Again laer I found another solution with wooden beads on cardboard: http://www.korki-4.de/kloeppeln/kloeppeln.html
An advantage of the hands down system: the bobbins can dangle outside the pillow. So a cookie pillow need not to be very much bigger than the motiv. Lately I took it with me on a Nile cruise as it fitted in a suite case, and it wasn't even the biggest suitecase I've seen during the trip. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]