[lace] Richard II, hankies and pockets

2003-09-11 Thread Bridget Marrow
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Jean Barrett wrote: I am not a very learned lace historian, but any who has been making lace for a few(!) years gathers a little of the history along the way. I settled down to watch a production of Shakespeare's 'Richard II' yesterday evening. It was from the Globe theatre,

Re: [lace] Re: Binche - Was Thinking person's lace

2003-09-11 Thread Thelacebee
In an email dated Wed, 10 Sep 2003 4:12:46 pm GMT, Aurelia L. Loveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoted: ... Binche...never fully evolved in design...but now being revived as esoteric studies for accomplished amateur lacemakers. snippedAurelia Aurelia, I'm more insulted by the term 'amateur

[lace] Binche - Was Thinking person's lace

2003-09-11 Thread Clive and Betty Ann Rice
Oh, Liz, that is a classic! Love it! Betty Ann in Roanoke, Virginia, USA ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I would go through the 'price ritual'. I'd scratch my head, look pensive and say 'well, about er ... yes, that much thread - yes, call the thread £30'. They'd be

Re: [lace] Re: Binche - Was Thinking person's lace

2003-09-11 Thread Malvary Cole
I can relate to that phylosophy by the public at large. When I was demonstrating on one occasion someone asked me if I sold what I made, I told them no because people don't want to pay what it is worth. After some further discussion she asked me how much I would charge, just as a matter of

Re: [lace] Richard II, hankies and pockets

2003-09-11 Thread Jill Treeves
Just had to respond to this as earlier this year my lace tutor arrange a visit to the Globe Theatre for her classes - we didn't actually get to see a show, but did get a demonstration by the head of the wardrobe there, where she talked about the costumes and how they were made - some we even

[lace] amateur lacemakers

2003-09-11 Thread Dmt11home
In a message dated 09/11/2003 5:35:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm more insulted by the term 'amateur lacemakers' - if they mean that I don't get paid then that is only true if we mean in money and I don't charge because no one could afford to pay me. My

Re: [lace] Cost of buying was Binche

2003-09-11 Thread Thelacebee
In an email dated Thu, 11 Sep 2003 10:17:13 am GMT, Clive and Betty Ann Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, Liz, that is a classic!  Love it! Betty Ann in Roanoke, Virginia, USA ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I would go through the 'price ritual'. See, it's not just the

RE: [lace] amateur lacemakers

2003-09-11 Thread Panza, Robin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm more insulted by the term 'amateur lacemakers' - if they mean that I don't get paid then that is only true if we mean in money and I don't charge because no one could afford to pay me. I'm perfectly happy to be called amateur. I make no effort whatsoever to earn a

Re: [lace] amateur lacemakers

2003-09-11 Thread Thelacebee
In an email dated Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:35:12 pm GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 09/11/2003 5:35:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm more insulted by the term 'amateur lacemakers' snipped snippeDevon who thinks amateur is a word with a positive

RE: [lace] amateur lacemakers

2003-09-11 Thread Aurelia L. Loveman
I would remind readers that the root of the word amateur means love. If you have a choice of various meanings for a word, why choose the one that's insulting? Rather, choose the most suitable meaning. If we're talking about lace and lacemaking, lover would be the best meaning for amateur. - To

RE: [lace] amateur lacemakers and thinking person's bobbinlace

2003-09-11 Thread Marcie Greer
We could take a cue from amateur astronomers. They take great pride in remaining amateurs and have made many of the important discoveries that require a human eye put up to a telescope. These days many of the professionals do not look up from their computers and couldn't locate the constellations

RV: [lace] Lazy susan and thanks

2003-09-11 Thread Antje González
Thanks to the thread about the lazy susan, I have found out how to use mine. I happened to buy one years ago in a lace fair,(didn't know its name), and don't remember the seller's explanations about how to use it. Now I finally will try it and find out if it really works. Antje, from Guadalajara,

[lace] Re: Binche - Was Thinking person's lace

2003-09-11 Thread kate
I had the price discussion with one woman where I related the cost of preparing the pricking alone to how much she would pay her cleaner. I was looking at the lace roundel she had picked to discuss and when I looked up to continue the conversation she just wasn't there any more. Kate in Somerset

[lace] thinking persons lace

2003-09-11 Thread Merlene
Several of us seem agreed that many bobbin laces, certainly floral Beds, and some of us (at least me) floral Bucks, are for thinking persons, what about Binche? I think all of the laces are for thinking people. We each are unique in the way we think and that is why one lace will grab us and

[lace] Witches' Work?

2003-09-11 Thread Marcie Greer
Reading back issues of LMi, a technique called Witches' Work was mentioned in an article by Berthilda Vandoren in connection with Binche. Does anyone know what this is and have some information about it? [Is there any way to ask people not to send speculations (without seeming totally rude?) We

[lace] Aesthetics and grounding of Beds and Binche

2003-09-11 Thread Leonard Bazar
I've been fascinated by the different ways makers of Binche and the other Flemish laces use diagrams, and plan and execute their work; not at all like traditional floral Bucks or Beds. I wonder if there is any documentary evidence (prickings or diagrams) indicating how the originals were worked,

[lace] progression from the copyright discussion

2003-09-11 Thread Jane Partridge
In my class yesterday afternoon, I mentioned the discussion we had regarding *that* mat, and reiterated my stance on using copied patterns in that it is illegal (without the copyright holder's permission). This led to the question from one of my students as to how to get permission if all you

[lace] Irma's needle lace

2003-09-11 Thread Lorelei Halley
Hi everybody, I just wanted you all to know that Irma Osterman has allowed me to put a photo of her recent needle lace piece Let me Grow Lovely Growing Old on the CALG website (for those who didn't get the most recent IOLI bulletin). http://www.chicagoarealaceguild.comIt is worked in colored

[lace] Re: Cost of buying

2003-09-11 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Thursday, Sep 11, 2003, at 08:53 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Liz) wrote: What has always got me about reenacting was that people wanted the best but wanted to pay the least. But isn't getting the most for the least what we *all want, regardless of the circumstances or object? It's

[lace] For bobbin makers?

2003-09-11 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
Gentle Spiders, Toni (who's no longer on Arachne but still a personal correspondent) sent me some info on a tree/bush which goes by a common name of spindle tree or burning bush (genus Euonymus). Supposedly because its wood is so smooth, it makes nice weaving spindles. So she thought it might

Re: [lace] Recipe and Questions

2003-09-11 Thread Clive and Betty Ann Rice
This should be on lace-chat, but since Margery posted to lace and I'm not sure she is on chat, I'll reply. Pardon if anyone is offended. When we moved back to VA from England, I had some recipes from FH Clive's aunts. Since they were in weights and I had my kitchen scales, I measured/weighed

[lace-chat] :) Fwd: Blonde's dogs

2003-09-11 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
I think I may have seen this one before... So many blonde jokes (my source's best friend collects them, being a blonde herself), it's hard to keep track... At least it's short :) From: R.P. Fred was visiting his blonde friend who had acquired two new dogs, and asked her what their names were.

[lace-chat] Re:Recipes and questions

2003-09-11 Thread Louise Hume
Is Crisco a kind of fat? what kind? is there a UK equiv.? It is a popular US brand name vegetable shortning. i.e. homogenized veggie oil. OOps! Sorry, I miswrote. I meant hydrogenated vegetable oil. It is similar to margarine, but used in recipes instead of lard or butter. When I was a