Re: [lace] Franz Muller Hanging bobbin. Buyer beware
Without looking at anything except the auction page, I might buy it for a pound or two as a novelty. (If it had been Sarah Dazeley then I would pay more because her final murder was in my family village!) It doesn’t look authentic at all. It is a shame that the maker couldn’t use their skills for an original design as that would probably be more profitable. Regards, Helen on the hot west coast of mainland Canada. > On Jul 17, 2018, at 23:55, Brian Lemin wrote: > > http://www.keysauctions.co.uk/ > > > > This auctioneer is offering a Franz Muller hanging bobbin for sale in a few > days time.. > > > > I suggest that would be buyers first read C and D Springetts evaluation of > another Franz Muller bobbin on page 85 of their book "Success to the Lace > Pillow" > > > > Many of their observations regarding the authenticity of the bobbin they are > talking about applies to this bobbin. > > > > I offer this advice without personally judging the bobbin as I would > probably need to see and handle it to make a proper judgement. > > > > These bobbins often make large sums of money at auctions. > > > > Like the Springetts say. "Caveat Emptor" > > > > Brian > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] YouTube of early bobbin and/or needlelace
Hi, The ‘Thumpers’ were mostly used in the South Bucks area, though many were later adapted to carry a spangle. Pamela Nottingham learned her lace in her home town of Marlow where she learned both Bucks and Beds using South Bucks bobbins which became her bobbin of choice for life. She has always been adamant that the proper term is not thumper but South Bucks bobbin. She reserves the term thumper for the very largest South Bucks bobbins but even then doesn't like the word. Although she met people who worked one handed, she has always worked with both hands like most of the rest of us. I am fortunate enough to finally have enough South Bucks bobbins to use for a piece of Bucks. I have just cut off a piece that used 53 pairs. When I used them for the first time I was surprised to find that they make a much nicer musical sound than any of my other bobbins as they clicked across the pillow. That included Midlands, glass (I have enough for a pillow) and Binche. And they felt lovely. Susie Johnson in very pleasant southwest Pennsylvania, USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] News item I was interested to see
Our Duke and Duchess of Cornwall visited Honiton today and the Duchess was given a piece of Honiton lace by Pat Perriman MBE and she talked about Queen Victoria and her interest in the Lace industry. Sue T Dorset UK, - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] early lace video
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Re: [lace] early lace video
Dear Jean, This sounds fascinating. I would love to know how she worked with one hand for bobbins and one for pins. I wonder if it depends on the shape of the pillow. As someone commented, she is just rolling them around as they are suspended in air. I learned on a roller pillow with a flat apron, using European bulbed bobbins, from Gunvor Jorgensen who learned as part of the Tonder lace revival in the twenties and the 1920s and 1930s. She used to say, "try to use your thumbs as little as possible" and she would demonstrate how, ideally, you would hold the bobbins only between your fingers. I was never really able to master this to the level that she was hoping for. I am unsure why this was recommended by her. Maybe it was a speed issue. Or maybe it was an orthopedic issue. Or maybe it was even a tension issue. You were supposed to give a gentle tug to the bobbin every time you picked it up between your non-thumb fingers. I wish I had asked her. But, I was a high school student at the time, and I had been carefully trained to master material and not ask questions. I feel certain, though, that this was part of the instruction that she received in Tonder from Ingaborg Rasmussen. Over the years when I observed her teaching other people, it seemed to me that she was no longer emphasizing certain things that she had emphasized with me. So, perhaps her teaching changed as she evaluated what was important to the US student. For instance, speed wasn't that important to hobbiests. If only we could go back in time and see how lacemakers worked in the past. Devon On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 1:24 AM, Jean Leader wrote: > Devon, > > The UK Lace Guild has a draft of a book on lacemaking by Ethel Nettleship in > which the instructions tell you to work with one hand for the bobbins and the > other for placing pins. I can’t remember the details and I’m away from home > right now but have them somewhere at home. I can look them out when I get > home at the end of the month. Ethel Nettleship was an interesting lady who > made lace in colour with subjects like parrots, cats, and even bread and > butter! As far as I remember she was making lace in the 1930s and 40s - the > UK Lace Guild now has her surviving lace and prickings in its Museum > Collection. > > Jean currently in Lake Arrowhead CA before moving on to San Antonio TX for > the IOLI Convention > --- > Jean Leader > www.jeanleader.net > > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] YouTube of early bobbin and/or needlelace
The types of lace made were not ruled by county boarders. What we know as the Bedfordshire type was made in all the counties of the East Midlands - as was Bucks Point. There was a Northampton Point, the term was not so common but was usually known for baby laces. The ‘Thumpers’ were mostly used in the South Bucks area, though many were later adapted to carry a spangle. The way the lady is working is typical of that area, they rarely used a pillow horse or stand, the bolster type pillow rested usually toward the left side of the lap with the left hand working the bobbins and the right hand lifting and placing the pins in the pattern. I’ve seen this method being used by Continental lace makers as the bobbins can be rolled rather than thrown/tossed as is necessary with spangled bobbins. Diana in Northamptonshire > On 17 Jul 2018, at 19:57, Jill Hawkins wrote: > > I was also surprised to see that the lacemaker was using what I know as > "Bucks thumpers" to make Bedfordshire lace. Thumpers refers to the style > of bobbin she is using. I was not aware that they used thumpers for Beds. > > Jill > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Franz Muller Hanging bobbin. Buyer beware
http://www.keysauctions.co.uk/ This auctioneer is offering a Franz Muller hanging bobbin for sale in a few days time.. I suggest that would be buyers first read C and D Springetts evaluation of another Franz Muller bobbin on page 85 of their book "Success to the Lace Pillow" Many of their observations regarding the authenticity of the bobbin they are talking about applies to this bobbin. I offer this advice without personally judging the bobbin as I would probably need to see and handle it to make a proper judgement. These bobbins often make large sums of money at auctions. Like the Springetts say. "Caveat Emptor" Brian - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Lace in England?
Oops...sorry Girls (and some Guys).if forgot to trim before hitting send. Mea culpa, I usually trim before I type in the message. Karen in Malta >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Lace in England?
Lynn Why not consider renting an automatic car? We always do that, especially if we are to drive âon the other side of the roadâ. It takes the headache out of shifting with the âotherâ hand and leaves us to concentrate fully on the road. Karen in Malta On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 at 12:29 AM, wrote: > I know there must be things in the archive about places to see lace in > England, but I am not smart enough to be able to figure out how to find > it. We will be in Peterborough, England, taking a class next April. We > are hoping not to have to rent a car, but can do so. Shifting with the > left hand is the really hard part. We are looking for places with lace > museums, examples of lace, that sort of thing. These things change over > time. Honiton is a bit far, but I had a glorious time there in 2002, > although I believe the shop on the High Street is gone. I assume the > museum is still open. I know that the V & A's lace collection is > elsewhere, but I don't know where. Help! This is the time to make room > reservations. lrb > > > "My email sends out an automatic message. Arachne members, > please ignore it. I read your emails." > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
