[lace] re me and Facebook!

[brido11]

Thanks for all your help!!

 

In short this is the situation

 

Many years ago I had a Facebook page, then my email got hacked and all my
friends were asked for money to get me out of Ireland.  I blocked my account
and despite say 3 tries to get a page they have always refused.

 

After the last attempt I decided I would give up.

 

Brian

 

 


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[lace] Honiton Bobbins of Historical significance. and.. Lace and Lace Making. M Powys

[brido11]

Since the uploading of the  Lace Bobbin dictionary and collectors guide
(www.brianlemin.com  ) I have been concentrating
on studying Antique Honiton (EAST Devon) lace bobbins.  They are totally
fascinating when they are decorated. Boring when plain, beautiful when
modern artists have painted them!  Smile.

 

I came across a terrible reproduction of some really historically
significant Honiton Lace Bobbins in Powys, Lace and Lace making.  Horses
charging each other, Queen Victoria in all, her regalia.  Other local
history things too, Sidmouth and a ship etc..  They just made my mouth water
let alone the excitement of thinking those bobbins are "out there"
somewhere? 

 

The illustration I have is too poor for me to reproduce for study purposes.
Does anyone have a "really nice, clear" picture in their copy of the book
please?  [ oops.. that would be willing to share with me?]

Even better, does anyone own one of these (big smile) or know where  I might
be able to see them. whatever.

 

Your special help to track these down would be most appreciated.

 

Also any Antique decorated Honiton (East Devon) images for study purposes
would be more than welcomed.  Especially Ships, people and domestic
"implements".  Frankly.. Anything! Smile.

 

Perhaps you would share this request with others especially say the facebook
group  (Facebook will not give me membership) or I am thinking the
collectors in other countries.

 

Anyway, you know me, bobbin fanatic anything to cure my bobbin illness.

 

Which reminds me;  a little thank you for your kind thoughts re my bowel
cancer and operation.  I am now a proud card carrying member of permanent
colostomy, but well and truly alive() and smiling.  It works well, and
not so bad as I imagined, hardly slows me down and as I have said the
alternative was not thinkable. (Oh ps. no chemo either!)

 

Thanks again

 

Brian


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[lace] History of lassen

[N.A. Neff]

"For 'lassen' of lace the following are required:
-- ...
-- Cotton thread in the same colour used to make the lace, but much
thinner. In the more substantial laces made of flax, a thin flax thread can
be used.
-- Thin smooth basting/tacking thread.
-- ..."

That's all that is said about the thread. There's no mention of the joining
thread in the section 4.1 History.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA


On Mon, Jun 24, 2019, 18:54 Bev Walker  wrote:

> Hello Nancy
> Does the translation offer any insight as to the source and size of thread
> needed for the stitching? ...
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[lace] Re: History of lassen

[N.A. Neff]

Yikes! What I have is a translation of Het Lassen -- it was in some binders
I inherited from another lacemaker!! So anyway, all that info in my email
is from Het Lassen en Aannaaien  van Kant, by Louise Allis-Viddeleer.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA


On Mon, Jun 24, 2019, 18:02 N.A. Neff  wrote:

> I have come across some excerpts from a 1993 handout for the Lace Teacher
> Training Program at Kantcentrum, on joining and attaching lace...
>
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[lace] History of lassen

[N.A. Neff]

I have come across some excerpts from a 1993 handout for the Lace Teacher
Training Program at Kantcentrum, on joining and attaching lace. There is a
section on lassen. The author (Louise Allis-Viddeleer) says what I've been
arguing for, that lassen developed when handkerchiefs developed flat-worked
corners and there were no longer ruffles or pleats in which to hide a seam.
She thinks this would have been during the 2nd half of the 19th C, which
seems reasonable to me. She cites examples of Mechlin from 2nd half 19th C
with lassen joins.

She also argues that lassen is a Belgian technique because in Belgium a
piece of lace starts with the threads plaited in bundles rather than hung
on in pairs, so there are not loops at the beginning into which to sew the
ends. She says that the following laces would make use of lassen: Flanders,
Valenciennes, Lille, Paris, Binche, and Mechlin.

If lassen is indeed of Belgium origin, which seems plausible, I would think
that someone at the Kantcentrum who is knowledgeable about joining and
attaching lace would be our most definitive source.

Nancy

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[lace] Destination Craft—season 1, episode 11 Switzerland

[Susan]

Hello All! A friend in PA sent me a lace tidbit. Apparently Jim West was 
learning to make bobbin lace & failed to launch in Switzerland. A photo of his 
lace is posted to our Arachne Flickr Photostream & it’s the last pic in my 
album. Should we invite him to Spokane, Ithaca or another lace event so he can 
get the hang of it with the experts? So far I haven’t found this episode online 
to watch it myself but I’m vexed that the show has left the wrong impression by 
showing such shoddy results! Sincerely, Susan Hottle FL USA  

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Re: [lace] Wedding lace

[Kathleen Harris]

Hankies were certainly bigger in the past, twelve inches or more was common, 
whether they were carried by men or women. But I think a hanky would have a 
solid centre of fabric rather than lace. A chalice cover  might be all lace.

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> On 24 Jun 2019, at 05:55, H M Clarke  wrote:
> 
> I would be the last person to suggest that I have any more knowledge than the 
> rest of you. That doesn’t stop me pretending sometimes so here goes ...
> 
> I would like to put the idea out there that many of the antique handkerchiefs 
> were used by men. Their fashions were more ornate and eye catching than their 
> female equivalents. A gentleman would have a larger handkerchief or it could 
> be a kerchief. Even when ladies were happily waving their handkerchief in 
> their hand, it was fully unfolded and so maybe smaller than we imagine? Also, 
> have I missed a reference to wedding handkerchiefs being a real thing in 
> olden times? I certainly have not seen Alice’s message on this topic. 
> 
> End of my tuppence worth (we got rid of our ‘penny’ years ago but my old 
> country still has theirs). 
> 
> Helen. 
> 
>> Antique examples were extremely large,15-20" of fabric. Smaller items are
>> usually described as chalice covers.
>> http://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/215260?sortBy=Relevance
>> shows a handkerchief 15inches square.
>> 
>> Annette Meldrum in a rainy, South Coast NSW, Australia
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[lace] Wedding lace

[Ilske Thomsen]

Helen is right there was a time men also had lace-handkerchiefs. If they use 
them or if they were only to show their richness or perhaps to give it to a 
lady who is weeping I don’t know.
In the second part of 19th century lots of handkerchief were often about 
50x45cm. In my opinion those were decoration. Imagine you take it in your hand 
there is a lot to see of the precious lace.

Ilske

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[lace] lassen

[Alex Stillwell]

Good morning Arachnids

Re. Lassen. I am surprised no one has mentioned Flanders Lace by Mary Niven.
She gives a very good description on pages 24 and 26 and I have successfully
followed her instructions. I always use my highest magnifier for working this
and mounting lace.

Have fun

Alex

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Re: [lace] Wedding lace

[H M Clarke]

I would be the last person to suggest that I have any more knowledge than the 
rest of you. That doesn’t stop me pretending sometimes so here goes ...

I would like to put the idea out there that many of the antique handkerchiefs 
were used by men. Their fashions were more ornate and eye catching than their 
female equivalents. A gentleman would have a larger handkerchief or it could be 
a kerchief. Even when ladies were happily waving their handkerchief in their 
hand, it was fully unfolded and so maybe smaller than we imagine? Also, have I 
missed a reference to wedding handkerchiefs being a real thing in olden times? 
I certainly have not seen Alice’s message on this topic. 

End of my tuppence worth (we got rid of our ‘penny’ years ago but my old 
country still has theirs). 

Helen. 

> Antique examples were extremely large,15-20" of fabric. Smaller items are
> usually described as chalice covers.
> http://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/215260?sortBy=Relevance
> shows a handkerchief 15inches square.
> 
> Annette Meldrum in a rainy, South Coast NSW, Australia

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