Fwd: [lace] Return to class
>> Putting in my bid for Zoom. With a second camera in the form of an iPhone >> suspended over the pillow you would be amazed. I just took a class with >> Veronika Irvine over Zoom. I think it is 95% as good as in person. But the >> savings in terms of no airplane flights or hotels more than compensate for >> the missing 5%. Do you find yourself lacking in an obscure tool you didn’t >> anticipate? No problem, run into your work room to find it. Are you pining >> for your favorite beverage. No issue, go to the kitchen. Do you hanker to >> meet the vanishingly few lacemakers on earth who are interested in >> mathematical art? They are present although in the US, Europe, or Australia. >> A new opportunity to make international friends. I think it is great! >> Devon >> PS. Sign up for Zero-waste through Bobbin Lace, tomorrow Aug. 15, 3 pm >> Eastern Daylight Time, or see it live streamed or recorded on the >> International Organization of Lace’s Facebook page. Details on the IOLI’s >> Facebook page. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Return to class
Putting in my bid for Zoom. With a second camera in the form of an iPhone suspended over the pillow you would be amazed. I just took a class with Veronika Irvine over Zoom. I think it is 95% as good as in person. But the savings in terms of no airplane flights or hotels more than compensate for the missing 5%. Do you find yourself lacking in an obscure tool you didn’t anticipate? No problem, run into your work room to find it. Are you pining for your favorite beverage. No issue, go to the kitchen. Do you hanker to meet the vanishingly few lacemakers on earth who are interested in mathematical art? They are present although in the US, Europe, or Australia. A new opportunity to make international friends. I think it is great! Devon PS. Sign up for Zero-waste through Bobbin Lace, tomorrow Aug. 15, 3 pm Eastern Daylight Time, or see it live streamed or recorded on the International Organization of Lace’s Facebook page. Details on the IOLI’s Facebook page. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Return to class
> Putting in my bid for Zoom. With a second camera in the form of an > iPhone suspended over the pillow you would be amazed. I just took a class > with Veronika Irvine over Zoom. I think it is 95% as good as in person. But > the savings in terms of no airplane flights or hotels more than compensate > for the missing 5%. Do you find yourself lacking in an obscure tool you > didnât anticipate? No problem, run into your work room to find it. Are you > pining for your favorite beverage. No issue, go to the kitchen. Do you > hanker to meet the vanishingly few lacemakers on earth who are interested > in mathematical art? They are present although in the US, Europe, or > Australia. A new opportunity to make international friends. I think it is > great! > Devon > PS. Sign up for Zero-waste through Bobbin Lace, tomorrow Aug. 15, 3 pm > Eastern Daylight Time, or see it live streamed or recorded on the > International Organization of Laceâs Facebook page. Details on the IOLIâs > Facebook page. > > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Return to class
How about a pair of gloves, nitrile, rubber, disposable, by each student, for the teacher's use. No problem with bobbin finishes, and not really that bad for the teacher either, as she would be the only one using the gloves. No cross contamination. Teachers don't actually take over the pillow that often, so this wouldn't be too much of problem. I have cheap bobbins, but I don't want them injured either. I think this would work. And masks of course, and good ventilation if possible, including outdoor classes. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, where it is typical August weather. I'm getting a lot of lace done, but I miss classes, other lacemakers. And going to lunch...vacation in Maine... Shopping in the mall... "My email sends out an automatic message. Arachne members, please ignore it. I read your emails." I did a quick Google and found some dispiriting info: >"You can, however, use denatured alcohol to remove latex, lacquer, shellac and >polyurethane finishesâ >and >"Most polys [polyurethanes finishes] are somewhat resistant to alcohols >(incidental exposure) and the finish may be unaffected if spills are cleaned >up immediatelyâ >all of which suggests to me that alcohol can not be relied on to leave bobbins >undamaged, whether theyâve been finished with polyurethane, latex paint, >lacquer or shellac. > >Perhaps it would be enough to leave the bobbins alone (even the plain wooden >ones) and rely instead on the teacher washing her hands or using hand >sanitizer before touching each studentâs bobbins. > >I do not know what theyâre saying in other parts of the world, but our >public health scientists are saying that the danger of the virus transferring >from surfaces is less than originally thought. > >Adele > >> On Aug 14, 2020, at 3:10 PM, N.A. Neff wrote: >> >> Useful info. Maybe recommend strongly that everyone use plain bobbins, and >even bring an extra as a test bobbin. I think mild bleach solutions or other >disinfectants are likely to be as rough as alcohol, don't you? What would be a >good alternative? > >- - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Return to class
Dear Fellow lacemakers and teachers I am planning how to return to teaching my lace class. Our venue is reopening in September with cleaning and social distancing regulations all in place. I assume we will all have to be wearing masks. I know I have to come up with my own risk assessment plan. So far so good but my experience of teaching our skill is that it is extremely hard to avoid close contact. Whilst the student could stand up and move away if necessary, I would normally be handling their bobbins quite a bit. (How risky is this?) And they can't see what I am doing if they are standing too far away. Of course as the average age of the students in my class is over 70 there is a chance that only a few of them will want to continue for now, but I'd like to give it a go. What are your views on the feasibility of returning to normal teaching? Another option is class by Zoom. Have you any opinions on the success of this? Again, without correcting work on the pillow, how useful is this tuition? Many of my students see this (undoing of their mistakes) as the teacher's role (no matter how hard I try to tell them that practise makes perfect...) Have any of you returned to teaching in class? Do please share your experiences of how Covid has changed your practices. Rosemary Brown Southwick, West Sussex UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Return to class
Can confirm the effects of alcohol on a wood finish. Back in March, I filled up a small spray bottle with rubbing alcohol for disinfecting doorknobs, phone screens and what-have-you, and ended up spilling a bit on the poly-finished kitchen tabletop. I wiped it up immediately, but the finish was pretty badly pitted as a result. (Fortunately it's an old, not valuable, table and already battle-scarred.) Beth > On 08/14/2020 3:30 PM ash...@shaw.ca wrote: > > > I did a quick Google and found some dispiriting info: > "You can, however, use denatured alcohol to remove latex, lacquer, shellac and > polyurethane finishes� > and > "Most polys [polyurethanes finishes] are somewhat resistant to alcohols > (incidental exposure) and the finish may be unaffected if spills are cleaned > up immediately� > all of which suggests to me that alcohol can not be relied on to leave bobbins > undamaged, whether they’ve been finished with polyurethane, latex paint, > lacquer or shellac. > > Perhaps it would be enough to leave the bobbins alone (even the plain wooden > ones) and rely instead on the teacher washing her hands or using hand > sanitizer before touching each student’s bobbins. > > I do not know what they’re saying in other parts of the world, but our > public health scientists are saying that the danger of the virus transferring > from surfaces is less than originally thought. > > Adele > > > On Aug 14, 2020, at 3:10 PM, N.A. Neff wrote: > > > > Useful info. Maybe recommend strongly that everyone use plain bobbins, and > even bring an extra as a test bobbin. I think mild bleach solutions or other > disinfectants are likely to be as rough as alcohol, don't you? What would be a > good alternative? > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Return to class
Useful info. Maybe recommend strongly that everyone use plain bobbins, and even bring an extra as a test bobbin. I think mild bleach solutions or other disinfectants are likely to be as rough as alcohol, don't you? What would be a good alternative? On Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 17:35 Adele Shaak wrote: ... Iâd worry a little bit about the alcohol treatment... - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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Sorry, don’t know why that last bit sent. I was just trying to trim the message, and off it went into the ether. Let’s try again: Just wondering - I have seen wiping with an alcohol-dampened cloth take foil straight off of book covers, so personally I’d worry a little bit about the alcohol treatment. I think it would depend on what the decoration was stuck on with and whether a cover-coat was applied. Adele west coast of Canada > and 2) after washing their hands, everyone wipe their bobbins > at the start of class with a cloth dampened with 90% or higher isopropyl > alcohol. (It doesn't have to be dripping nor the bobbins rubbed, so it > won't damage any finishes ) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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Hi Rosemary, I am not a teacher but I've kept up on some of the relative risks, and the effectiveness of some mitigation steps, and perhaps can offer a few suggestions. Transmission via touching surfaces appears to be very rare for this virus. If two things were done, everybody could handle everybody else's bobbins with very close to zero risk. 1) Everyone wash their hands thoroughly at the start of class, and again after each time they touch their face or their mask, and 2) after washing their hands, everyone wipe their bobbins at the start of class with a cloth dampened with 90% or higher isopropyl alcohol. (It doesn't have to be dripping nor the bobbins rubbed, so it won't damage any finishes ) Transmission is almost entirely respiratory, either via fine droplets or via aerosols of virus particles. The former are what fall from the air within about 6 feet -- hence the personal distancing -- and are blocked by properly worn masks. The latter, however, the virus particles, don't fall out of the air, and in crowded settings with poor ventilation can become quite concentrated, leading to high rates of transmission. Most masks don't block these particles. The main defense here is ventilation because one's risk of infection is directly related to the size of the dose of virus you get. So you need to dilute the concentration of airborne virus, or blow it away altogether. By far the best thing is to hold your class outside, with fans if there isn't a gentle breeze. The next best would be inside in as big a room as possible, with outside air coming in, and fans preventing pockets of stale air. In those situations, if you both have masks on, it would be safe for both a student and the teacher for one to look over the other's shoulder, etc. Finally, remember, all this is protection just in case you or someone in your class is actually sick with covid. The best protection is for everyone to agree not to come to class if they have a dry cough, trouble breathing, or lose their sense of taste or smell. And take everyone's temperature when they arrive for class -- no one should attend with a temp of 37.5°C or above. In summary, from what I've read recently, ventilation is what's really key. I hope some of this helps. I can dig up a few articles that would cite references if you would like them. Nancy Nancy A. Neff Connecticut, USA On Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 15:31 Rosemary wrote: > > I am planning how to return to teaching my lace class. > Have any of you returned to teaching in class? Do please share your > experiences of how Covid has changed your practices. > > Rosemary Brown > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
