Re: [lace] domain name change

2022-12-05 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi Liz,

How will this affect the archiving of traffic, or will it? I'm not clear on
how the archives are created, managed, or stored.

Thanks for making us possible!

A happy Arachnid,
Nancy
Connecticut, USA


On Mon, Dec 5, 2022, 08:47 Elizabeth Reynolds  wrote:

> Greetings to all of you!
>
> I’m dropping by to let you know that I’ve accepted an offer for the
> arachne.com domain.   Although I’ve been inactive myself for quite a few
> years now, I’m still happy and honored to host the lace list, so I have
> obtained a new domain for it - arachnelace.com...
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Re: [lace] Lorelei Halley

2022-12-04 Thread N.A. Neff
Sorry!

"Lorelei lynxlacelady"


On Sun, Dec 4, 2022, 19:54 DJ  wrote:

> ...
> The “Lorelei Lynxlady” on Pinterest did not produce anything that
looked
> like lace related materials.
>
...

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Re: [lace] Lorelei Halley

2022-12-04 Thread N.A. Neff
Good news, for now. I found Lorelei's Pinterest boards. Search for "Lorelei
lynxlady".  Now, how long do they stay there? There are no fees for
Pinterest so maybe those are good indefinitely.

Clare I like your idea.

Nancy


On Sun, Dec 4, 2022, 14:11 Clare Settle  wrote:

> Just a thought - could her materials be added to the Digital Archive?
> https://www2.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/index.html
>
> Clare
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Re: [lace] Lorelei Halley

2022-12-04 Thread N.A. Neff
Yes, I feel stupid. I realized immediately after sending that that the
domain name is irrelevant. The content can be hosted anywhere -- it's
retrieving the content and finding somewhere to host it that needs to be
done. The hosting company would be on a subscription basis, so we need to
move before that expires or lapses.

So is anyone in touch with either Lorelei's brother or sister?

I don't have such a subscription myself but I'm willing to take over the
lynxlady subscription as an emergency measure, until a long term solution
is worked out.

Or do something else to help. Sarah -- let me know!

Nancy

On Sun, Dec 4, 2022, 13:39 DJ  wrote:

> Purchasing the domain name would only give you rights to the name. The
> content is stored on a hosting company server. Her brother may have the
> login information for the hosting company. ...
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Re: [lace] Lorelei Halley

2022-12-04 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi Sarah and Deborah,

Do you know how to rescue the content if I were to purchase the domain name
of lynxlady.com as an emergency step? Is anyone in touch with her brother?
Is anything being done to save her Pinterest boards?

In short, is there anything I can do to help?

Nancy
Ashford, CT


On Fri, Dec 2, 2022, 23:50 DJ  wrote:

> Sarah,
>
> The LynxLady.com site is not being maintained so far. The domain
> registration expired and the domain name is for sale. ...
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Re: [lace] Lorelei Halley

2022-11-17 Thread N.A. Neff
Thanks Devon. I will do so, and see if there's anything I can do to help
out.
Nancy

On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 12:52 PM DevonThein  wrote:

> ...
>
> I think that questions about it should be directed to Prabha Ramakrishnan
> the IOLI Vice President because she oversees media for the IOLI. Her email
> is vicepresid...@internationalorganizationoflace.org
>
> Devon
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[lace] Lorelei Halley

2022-11-17 Thread N.A. Neff
Fellow Arachnids:

It was with some distress that I learned at Convention of the deaths of
several lacemakers, including Lorelei Halley in April. I had forgotten, if
I knew, that LaceIOLI had moved off ning to www.laceioli.org. I don't think
I ever got to laceioli.org to sign up, so I'm really out of the loop. But
the passing of Lorelei is a tremendous loss to the lace community -- she
contributed so much and helped so many.

The end of her obituary says she desired her webpages, www.lynxlady.com, to
be maintained, but I'm getting a "site can't be reached" error message when
I try it, or when I try laceioli.org. So my question for you all is: is
anyone working to restore those sites that Lorelei put so much work into?
and a related question -- why was ning abandoned and was all that info
moved over?

I'm asking because I'd like to see the info recovered and made available
again, but before I bother Lorelei's sister or do anything further, I want
to know if someone else is doing something already. Is someone??

TIA.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

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[lace] Edible lace street food.

2022-11-16 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi Arachnids,

A friend sent me this video -- lace burritos?

https://fb.watch/gQQL_x7n97/

Nancy
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Re: [lace] "Four Great Lace Collections" & Threads of Power exhibit

2022-11-01 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi Vicki et al.,

The very fine thread in the late 17th and early 18th C was all handspun
linen, made from flax from cultivars that produced very fine and long
fibers. These cultivars were completely destroyed during the French
revolution, so very fine thread could not be produced again until fine
cotton thread from better spinning technology and the import of long-staple
cotton.

I don't have a reference for these assertions right now (I'm sitting in the
Archaeology Museum in Heraklion, Crete, so rather far from my library :-D),
but I think the info is in Pat Earnshaw's book (do I remember correctly
that there's one specifically on thread?)

Nancy


On Tue, Nov 1, 2022, 12:56 Vicki Bradford  wrote:

> ... As a spinner as well as a lacemaker, it also struck me that as fine as
> the threads were, they were also most likely at least two-ply, thus making
> the observation even more amazing. As far as I can find, the first machine
> spinning originated with the invention of the Spinning Jenny in around
> 1765, but some information suggests that the thread produced from these
> machines was coarse and not strong. In any case, earlier laces would then
> most likely have used handspun thread?  ...
>
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Re: [lace] "Four Great Lace Collections in the World"

2022-10-30 Thread N.A. Neff
V Met? and maybe Cleveland???

My guesses...

Nancy
Connecticut, USA


On Sun, Oct 30, 2022, 15:45 Arlene Cohen  wrote:

> ...
> In this review, it says "Today, there are four great lace collections in
> the
> world and the Textilmuseum's is one of them." My question is:  what are the
> other three? I suppose it might be a subjective opinion (?),
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Re: [lace] Arachne get together at IOLI Convention

2022-06-24 Thread N.A. Neff
YES!!!  I think that is a brilliant idea! Maybe just as simple as wearing
something "spidery" -- a pin or a scarf, maybe an embroidered ribbon.

I'm in!

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

On Fri, Jun 24, 2022, 18:38 Ruth Lyon  wrote:

> It would be nice if all of us "Arachnes" would wear a ribbon or sign that
> shows that we are also "spiders" during the convention.
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Re: [lace] Arachne get together at IOLI Convention

2022-06-23 Thread N.A. Neff
Oh mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. I'm on my phone and I forgot to
trim (and lordy it really needed it). My sincere apologies to the digest
subscribers -- I'm one and I hate it too. Please consider breast
energetically beaten.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

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Re: [lace] Arachne get together at IOLI Convention

2022-06-23 Thread N.A. Neff
I'm with Karen. Drinks sound much more convivial -- and I'm likely to have
one even if the meeting is at noon! So save me and my lace and organize
something for the evening. 🙂

On Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 18:07 Karen Bovard  wrote:

> How about 'drinks' instead of lunch?
> I am one of the people vending thus I might be more up for a quiet
> opportunity to have a drink later in the afternoon or evening.
>
> Karen Bovard-Sayre
> The ShuttleSmith
>
> On Thursday, June 23, 2022, 10:18:23 AM MDT, Janice Blair <
> jbl...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
> The schedule was just slow to load. I see the sales room is closed for
> lunch
>
> on Wednesday for an hour from 12:30 so that might be the best day to visit
> with everyone. Â Maybe Rosemary can find out from the host group if the
> hotel
> has a space available where we could gather with our lunches or
> drinks.Janice
> Janice Blair Murrieta, CA, jblace.com
>
> On Thursday, June 23, 2022, 09:11:00 AM PDT, Janice Blair
>  wrote:
>
> I think my initial post was back in April. The schedule on the IOLI website
> is not working yet as far as I can see, so without knowing what is planned
> for
> the week, maybe one of you that is not vending can make a decision on when
> to
> meet and post it, or put an Arachne notice on the Notice Board at
> convention
> with a time and place, bring your own lunch or drink for a get together.
> Â I
> know that OIDFA are having a lunch on Thursday with the same deal.
> Janice Blair Murrieta, CA, jblace.com
>
> On Thursday, June 23, 2022, 08:43:31 AM PDT, N.A. Neff
>  wrote:
>
> I would also like to get together. I do think there's a missing post
> problem
> because I never saw an initial post from Janice asking about interest.Â
> NancyConnecticut, USA
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Re: [lace] Arachne get together at IOLI Convention

2022-06-23 Thread N.A. Neff
I would also like to get together. I do think there's a missing post
problem because I never saw an initial post from Janice asking about
interest.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

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Re: [lace] Importance of Myopia for lacemaking

2022-04-01 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi Devon,

I've had cataract surgery in both eyes. I chose to get implanted lenses
that corrected my distance vision so I could still drive (to the
optician's, for example) if I broke my glasses, so I wear glasses for close
work; this logic makes distance vision without glasses a no-brainer for me.
I have a pair of bifocals that are close vision at the bottom and
correction for computer-distance at the top. I don't like trifocals. It
hasn't affected my lacemaking except that things are not as blurry. I think
your aversion to the beige card was indeed caused by the cataracts.

My understanding is that your situation would be complicated by the
astigmatism. Correction of that via an implanted lens requires a lens that
is weighted so it sits at exactly the correct angle in the eye to correct
the astigmatism. Everything involved in correcting for astigmatism via
the implanted lens makes that lens much more expensive, and riskier in that
if the lens is the slightest bit off, you're back to being astigmatic.
Perhaps someone can chime in who has had the correction for astigmatism.

The reason the surgery only takes 20 minutes in either case is that all the
corrections are done when the lens is manufactured; the surgery is just
slipping the natural lens out of the clear envelope that holds it in place,
and replacing it with the tailored lens -- the same procedure for all
configurations.

HTH
Nancy

On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 4:32 PM DevonThein  wrote:

> ...
> Has anyone had cataract surgery? How has it affected your lacemaking? What
> choices did you make and are you happy with them?
> ...

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Re: [lace] Help With Skeined Cotton Thread

2022-02-26 Thread N.A. Neff
Dear Adele,

Check the thread with a high-powered loupe -- you should be able to
see 'nodes' in the fibers if it's linen (which would be very exciting
given how fine it is).
https://lenoklinen.com/blog/linen-fibers-miscroscoping

Also, the following blog post gives some other methods for
distinguishing linen from cotton:
https://mytextilenotes.blogspot.com/2010/02/distinguishing-linen-from-cotton.html#:~:text=Linen

HTH.
Nancy
Connecticut, USA

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Re: [lace] Le Pompe -- first book

2021-07-10 Thread N.A. Neff
Kim and others:

I put a picture of the lace up on Flickr -- it's still at the top on the
photostream page. Gold braid with silver spangles.

Thanks everybody for your help!

Nancy,
Connecticut, USA

On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 8:26 PM Kim Davis  wrote:

   Please send a photo of your picture, it sounds interesting!
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Re: [lace] Le Pompe -- first book

2021-07-10 Thread N.A. Neff
Now THAT was FAST!

Thank you Elena!!

Nancy

On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 5:46 PM Elena Kanagy-Loux 
wrote:

> Hi Nancy,
>
> It's not a PDF, but the Met has a copy of the first Le Pompe pattern book
> that is fully scanned with high resolution images available online (they're
> open access). Here's a link:
>
> https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/356989?searchField=AllsortBy=Relevanceft=le+pompeoffset=0rpp=20pos=2
> Best,
> Elena
>
> On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 5:34 PM N.A. Neff  wrote:
>
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> I have a PDF of the second book of Le Pompe, but I haven't been able to
>> find a scan of the entire first book, only what is in Levey and Payne. I'm
>> looking for the pattern for the lace I bought at auction. It looks like it
>> should be out of Le Pompe but it's not in the "libro secondo". Does anyone
>> have a PDF of the first book that they could send me? I'd be most
>> grateful.
>>
>> Thanks much.
>> Nancy
>> Connecticut, USA
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[lace] Le Pompe -- first book

2021-07-10 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi everybody,

I have a PDF of the second book of Le Pompe, but I haven't been able to
find a scan of the entire first book, only what is in Levey and Payne. I'm
looking for the pattern for the lace I bought at auction. It looks like it
should be out of Le Pompe but it's not in the "libro secondo". Does anyone
have a PDF of the first book that they could send me? I'd be most grateful.

Thanks much.
Nancy
Connecticut, USA

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[lace] English Embroidery "'Twixt Art and Nature"

2021-06-16 Thread N.A. Neff
Hello everybody,

A number of years ago, there was an exhibit at the Met of English
Embroidery 1580 to 1700 " 'Twixt Art and Nature". The accompanying book is
now out of print...and available as a free download PDF!!

Go here:
https://store.bgc.bard.edu/english-embroidery-in-the-metropolitan-museum-1580-1700-twixt-art-and-nature-edited-by-melinda-watt-and-andrew-morrall/

Put in your information as a regular order, it will say the total is $0 and
give you a link for the book.

There's lots of neat lace in lots of great pictures.

Thanks to Tricia Nyugen of Thistle Threads for posting the link and info in
her blog!

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

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[lace] Re: spangled lace

2021-06-02 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi everybody,

I received an answer from Gil Dye, and she says it is very probably early
1600's She said it looks a lot like some metal lace on a mantle dated
reliably to 1620, and that the more complex laces were early 1600s rather
than late 1500s, although she didn't completely rule out the latter.

I'm hoping to reconstruct it. I'm making some spangles (slowly -- it is
laborious! but I think they are looking pretty good), and I have some gold
thread that should work. We'll see how that goes...

Thanks to everyone for Gil Dye's email. I was so happy to hear from her.

Nancy
Ashford, Connecticut, USA

On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 4:56 PM N.A. Neff  wrote:

> Okay, I've put up on Flickr a close-up of the spangled lace I am convinced
> is 16th or 17th C. What do you think??
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[lace] spangled lace

2021-06-01 Thread N.A. Neff
Okay, I've put up on Flickr a close-up of the spangled lace I am convinced
is 16th or 17th C. What do you think??

Nancy
Ashford, Connecticut  USA

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[lace] contact info for Gillian Dye?

2021-06-01 Thread N.A. Neff
A Google search didn't come up with a website for Gillian Dye. Does anybody
have an email address for her? I have recently acquired a piece of
16th/17th C metal lace with spangles, and I'm hoping she can date it more
precisely for me. Please email me privately at nancy.a.n...@gmail.com with
any info.

I'll upload a picture of the lace to Flickr as soon as I get the login
info. I'm so excited at finding it. May 2021 was an amazing month -- I
found a 17th C band sampler (on Ebay!!! -- the seller didn't know what she
had), and then this piece of lace in a lot identified as mid-19th C.

Thanks for your help.

Nancy
Ashford, Connecticut, USA

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Re: [lace] Happy Anniversary

2021-04-14 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi Shelagh,

I had carpal tunnel problems in both hands, and had surgery on both. The
first surgery was the standard ligament release with a long incision -- it
healed up tight and I occasionally have problems still in that hand, plus
it was a long and painful recovery. The other wrist was done
endoscopically: they made a little slit at the end of my arm and another in
my palm, and inserted a tube and a tiny camera. The surgeon cut the
ligament from the inside, releasing the pressure on the nerve. I had a
bandaid on both little slits, a local nerve block, no tranquilizer or other
anesthetic, and no pain--I drove myself home afterwards! That release has
stayed released and I have no problems in that hand anymore.

Moral of the story -- get a release done soon, but make sure it's
endoscopic surgery. I can type or make lace for hours on end with no
problem with my left wrist or hand, and minimal problems with my right (the
standard surgery). (Shoulders and back are a different story!) The release
makes a world of difference, but the standard one can be only partially
effective.

Hope this helps. Good luck to you.

Nancy
Ashford, Connecticut, USA

On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 8:22 AM Shelagh Wotherspoon 
wrote:

> ...
> Unfortunately I, too, have developed a pinched nerve or Carpal Tunnel
> syndrome in both my wrists so I now limit lacemaking to 15 minutes
> at a time and then take a long break.
> ...

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Re: [lace] Lacemaking machines

2021-02-12 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi Jane,

I thought I remembered them saying the stockinette machines at Hurt's were
from the 16th C (I still find it amazing they are still working after four
centuries) -- they were definitely English. I know that the
machine-knitting industry started under Queen Elizabeth because she was the
monarch who gave them such a hard time. One machine was taken to France,
put back together and copied, while England was suppressing the industry.
But people have given better references to all that already. But I'm
positive that the Hurt machines were English.

Nancy
Ashford, CT USA

On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 4:52 AM Jane Partridge  wrote:

> ... I would be interested to know which country the 1590 machine Nancy
> referred to was in, as England at the time had a Queen, not a King
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Re: [lace] Lacemaking machines

2021-02-11 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi Rochelle,

Yes, a number of Arachne members saw the Nottingham stockinette machines
from the 17th or 18th C (I'm not sure if the ones we saw went back to the
1600's -- I find that hard to believe in hindsight), including ones still
working. I have a really lovely shawl knit on one of those machines; quite
a few other Arachnids bought knitted items.

I also have an article on lacemaking machines in Europe, Germany I think,
but I'm not sure how old the machines were that were being discussed. I
will try to find it.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA


On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 9:28 PM Rochelle Sutherland 
wrote:

> Hi everyone, I have an unusual request. I am helping a higher degree
> student with lacemaking for her textile art degree and she is interested in
> knowing more about the early lacemaking machines. Does anyone know
> anything? Has anyone seen them in action in museums? I have an idea I have
> seen discussions on arachne about it before, so I am hoping someone can
> help her. Thanks,
> ---
> Rochelle SutherlandCottons and Bobbins Lacemaking Supplies by Rochelle
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Re: [lace] Goddess of Lace?

2020-12-05 Thread N.A. Neff
Athena is goddess of weaving, but Arachne  in Greek mythology was a mortal
weaver who got so good she challenged Athena, with the usual repercussions.

Bobbin lace is a form of weaving without a fixed warp, so lacemakers in
modern times have adopted Arachne (we're mortals), hence the name of our
lace list.

Nancy
Ashford, Connecticut, USA


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> I’ve just been asked who the Goddess of Lace is.  lacemaker/sets/
> 
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[lace] Techniques vs methods in lacemaking

2020-11-26 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi Gon,

Would you be so kind as to define explicitly what you mean by methods vs
techniques in bobbin lace? Not only with examples, although some will help.
I'm getting confused.

Thanks.

Nancy
Ashford, Connecticut, USA


On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 05:00 Gon Homburg  wrote:

> ...

I think you missed the difference between a method of bobbin lacemaking and
> the various techniques.
> Every lace teacher should know about the closed and the open method in
> bobbin
> lace and explain the difference between the two to their students.
>
...

>
Robin Panza wrote:
...

> .  You can use torchon
> techniques on a Bucks point picking, but that doesn't mean you have made
> Bucks
> point.
> ...

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Re: [lace] Speed and co-operative lace

2020-11-25 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi all,

I'm with Alex -- I most enjoy puzzling out a new pattern or reconstruction
of 17th -- 18th C Binche/Valenciennes. I gain most pleasure from getting it
right with the best technique I'm capable of, and speed is only an issue in
relatively boring spots such as cloth stitch -- hence my having learned to
speed up cloth stitch.

The all-absorbing challenge of a complicated, asymmetric pattern is heaven,
and I don't necessarily want it to go by too fast.

To each her own. Fascinating diversity keeps the world an interesting
place. And faster means more lace so thank heavens most people go faster
than I do!!

Nancy
Ashford, Connecticut, USA


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wrote:

> ...
> Although I make no effort to work fast I get the same joy of experience
> working with my hands and having the experience of seeming to block out
> other
> stimuli but it comes not only from making lace but also from the activity
> of
> puzzling out what to do next.
>
...

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Re: [lace] Speed and efficiency in lace?

2020-11-23 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi Elena and fellow Arachnids:

I have found that, when doing an area of cloth stitch, I can go twice as
fast if I "overlap" stitches. Do the cross in the next stitch as you do it
in the current stitch, and move across, doing two crosses at the same time
just like you do a twist with each hand. I think it's faster than twice
because it's so balanced and rhythmical.

Nancy

Nancy A. Neff
Ashford, Connecticut, USA

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wrote:

>
> Anyway, just for fun, I was curious if anyone else had experiences or
> advice to speed up lace through shortcuts or other tricks to share with one
> another
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Re: [lace] Textile Encyclopedia

2020-10-20 Thread N.A. Neff
That does clarify! Thanks Elena. I think I got muddled between the
historical points and the structural points. I hope I didn't sound grumpy
-- I'm just rather fascinated by the equivalence of the structure and I get
overly enthusiastic... :-)

Nancy

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wrote:

> To clarify, I don't disagree with anyone here ...
>
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Re: [lace] Textile Encyclopedia

2020-10-20 Thread N.A. Neff
Yes, you are absolutely right, the evidence is good that bobbin lace
developed from braiding -- but braiding is also weaving in which a warp
thread becomes a weft thread at the edge at each pass. See the very first
illustration in the Wikipedia article
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braid_group. This is also recognized by some
textile experts; for example see Landi's The Textile Conservator's Manual
in which she says explicitly that bobbin lace is weaving.

I wasn't saying anything about the historical development of bobbin lace. I
was describing very specifically the structure and mechanism of bobbin
lace, which is weaving with an unattached warp. And of course linen stitch
or cloth stitch is even closer to fixed-warp weaving in structure since it
is just plain tabby (with two warp threads running simultaneously). I think
the history of various technologies has shown that we can get to techniques
that are structurally the same via different historical routes. I'm sure
the history will be covered in depth, but I believe that understanding the
fundamental structure is also important, whatever the history of developing
it!

Actually I do agree that it makes most sense from a usefulness standpoint
to keep all the lace together. Bobbin lace being a form of weaving is just
one of those technical anomalies that make the world such a complicated
place.

Nancy

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wrote:

>
> I think experts in early bobbin lace like Gil Dye can speak to this more
> than I can, but evidence points to bobbin lace developing from braiding
> techniques, not weaving.
> ...
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Re: [lace] Textile Encyclopedia

2020-10-20 Thread N.A. Neff
Good Liz! That bothered me too. Bobbin lace IS weaving in which the warp is
free at one end and threads can change function from warp to weft or
reverse. But it is topologically exactly weaving -- no knots. And even the
most complicated stitches boil down to the over/under relationship of the
threads in weaving.

I'm submitting a proposal for a contribution explaining this in detail, but
it would definitely be odd being in the "non-woven" volume!

Nancy

Nancy A Neff
Ashford, CT, USA

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 15:44 Lbuyred  wrote:

> Just wondering.  Why is bobbin lace considered to be “non-woven”?
> Liz Redford, Raleigh NC
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Re: [lace] Return to class

2020-08-14 Thread N.A. Neff
Useful info. Maybe recommend strongly that everyone use plain bobbins, and
even bring an extra as a test bobbin. I think mild bleach solutions or
other disinfectants are likely to be as rough as alcohol, don't you? What
would be a good alternative?


On Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 17:35 Adele Shaak  wrote:
... I’d worry a little bit about the alcohol treatment...

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Re: [lace] Return to class

2020-08-14 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi Rosemary,

I am not a teacher but I've kept up on some of the relative risks, and the
effectiveness of some mitigation steps, and perhaps can offer a few
suggestions.

Transmission via touching surfaces appears to be very rare for this virus.
If two things were done, everybody could handle everybody else's bobbins
with very close to zero risk. 1) Everyone wash their hands thoroughly at
the start of class, and again after each time they touch their face or
their mask, and 2) after washing their hands, everyone wipe their bobbins
at the start of class with a cloth dampened with 90% or higher isopropyl
alcohol. (It doesn't have to be dripping nor the bobbins rubbed, so it
won't damage any finishes )

Transmission is almost entirely respiratory, either via fine droplets or
via aerosols of virus particles. The former are what fall from the air
within about 6 feet -- hence the personal distancing -- and are blocked by
properly worn masks.

The latter, however, the virus particles, don't fall out of the air, and in
crowded settings with poor ventilation can become quite concentrated,
leading to high rates of transmission. Most masks don't block these
particles. The main defense here is ventilation because one's risk of
infection is directly related to the size of the dose of virus you get. So
you need to dilute the concentration of airborne virus, or blow it away
altogether.

By far the best thing is to hold your class outside, with fans if there
isn't a gentle breeze. The next best would be inside in as big a room as
possible, with outside air coming in, and fans preventing pockets of stale
air. In those situations, if you both have masks on, it would be safe for
both a student and the teacher for one to look over the other's shoulder,
etc.

Finally, remember, all this is protection just in case you or someone in
your class is actually sick with covid. The best protection is for everyone
to agree not to come to class if they have a dry cough, trouble breathing,
or lose their sense of taste or smell. And take everyone's temperature when
they arrive for class -- no one should attend with a temp of 37.5°C or
above.

In summary, from what I've read recently, ventilation is what's really key.

I hope some of this helps. I can dig up a few articles that would cite
references if you would like them.

Nancy

Nancy A. Neff
Connecticut, USA

On Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 15:31 Rosemary  wrote:

>
> I am planning  how to return to teaching my lace class.
>

Have any of you returned to teaching in class? Do please share your
> experiences of how Covid has changed your practices.
>
> Rosemary Brown
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Re: Re[3]: [lace] Lace identification

2020-07-18 Thread N.A. Neff
I agree with Maria. As I said initially, this is machine-made needlerun on
machine-made net. This indeed a form of embroidery on net, which is not
usually included in what people mean by "needle-lace". I didn't want to get
into an argument about how narrowly or how broadly one defined
"needle-lace", since embroidered forms of lace are indeed made by a needle.

I'll attach my initial analysis since I never saw that appear on Arachne
and maybe was lost in cyberspace.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 09:42 Maria Greil  wrote:

> Sorry, but I do not agree with you. I find it is no needle lace but machine
> embroidery on a mechanical tulle.
> Maria
>
>
> Hi Sue,
>
How pretty! And what a good photo -- the details are quite clear when
> enlarged.
>
> It is needle-run lace, embroidery on net. The net is machine-made, and the
> embroidery is also almost certainly done by machine although I wouldn't
> claim to be 100% sure unless I could see the back. It is a very nice one,
> which would lead me to date it to the late 1800s.
>
> As I say, it is a particularly nice example of this kind of lace -- a
> beautiful design and well executed.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Nancy
>
> Connecticut, USA
>
>

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Re: [lace] Lace identification

2020-07-15 Thread N.A. Neff
My apologies!!! I forgot to trim. It's been a while since I posted...

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Re: [lace] Lace identification

2020-07-15 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi Sue,

How pretty! And what a good photo -- the details are quite clear when
enlarged.

It is needle-run lace, embroidery on net. The net is machine-made, and the
embroidery is also almost certainly done by machine although I wouldn't
claim to be 100% sure unless I could see the back. It is a very nice one,
which would lead me to date it to the late 1800s.

As I say, it is a particularly nice example of this kind of lace -- a
beautiful design and well executed.

Best wishes,

Nancy

Connecticut, USA

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 14:29 sue  wrote:

> Sue Babbs has offered to put the picture showing the whole lace on Flickr,
> but here is the photo so you can check it out before that happens.
> Interested in knowing as much as others can help us with.
> Sue T
>
> Hi Sue,
>
> I'm happy to give it a shot if you want to email the photos to me.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Nancy
>
> Connecticut, USA
>
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 06:38 sue  wrote:
>
>> Hi lacemakers one and all.  I hope you are all safe and well, many of the
>> lacemakers I know will have been busy making lace in lockdown to keep
>> themselves, busy, calm and comfortable.  What a joy to be able to.
>> My sister just sent me two images of a lace handkerchief that she bought
>> during 1988 in the Kings Road London England, just before she got
>> married, as
>> her something old.  She knows nothing about lace except it is beautiful.
>> She
>> recently took it out of where ever it has been laying for all these years
>> and
>> saying how much she loves it and how she is also beginning to appreciate
>> the
>> skill that goes in to making it.  I offered to ask someone in this site if
>> they can identify it for us.  I have two photographs, the one that she has
>> taken of it lying flat not folded and able to look at the really large
>> image
>> of the delicate lace and my thinking is that it looks more like needle
>> lace on
>> a mesh.
>> Any offers to check it out for me would be greatly appreciated, but I am
>> not
>> able to get it on flickr.
>> Sue T
>> Dull Dorset UK
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Re: [lace] Crochet and tatting?

2020-04-30 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi Elena,

I know only one thing relevant to your questions but I'll offer it in case
it helps: the shuttles used in the 18th century for knotting were much
larger than tatting shuttles, several times larger than the largest tatting
shuttle I know of. I have one and embarrassingly cannot find it right now,
and is of the same proportions as a tatting shuttle, but if  memory serves
me right, 4 to 5 inches long. Being so large, and with an elaborately
carved 3-dimensional decoration on each side, it would serve very well to
show off the graceful motions of the ladies' hands as they sat knotting. It
would have been extremely hard if not impossible to tat with, however.

I will send you pictures with a scale next to it when I find my knotting
shuttle. (It is quite beautiful.) But the point is that the shuttles in the
18th century were knotting shuttles and quite distinct from the later
tatting shuttles.

HTH

Nancy
Ashford, Connecticut, USA

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020, 13:06 Elena Kanagy-Loux 
wrote:

> Dear Arachne,
>
> I am hoping to ask for your thoughts on the origin dates of tatting and
> crochet and see if they line up with what I have gathered over the years.
>
> Tatting shuttles, of course are already depicted in 18th century portraits
> as they were used for simpler knotting techniques, but what we now know of
> tatting doesn't seem to have emerged until the 19th century. Even digging
> through my handy Earnshaw and Levey books I don't seem to get a more
> specific date than that, although Earnshaw dates the inclusion of picots to
> the 1870s. Also, do we think it started in France, or elsewhere?
>
> For the origins of crochet I have seen references as specific as the 1830s,
> in England, developed as a quicker imitation of needle lace (although the
> resemblance of needle lace to crochet has led some to mistakenly believe it
> dates back to the Renaissance).
>
> Do these timelines sound correct to you? I'd love to get your thoughts.
>
> Thank you as always!
> Best Wishes,
> Elena
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Re: [lace] Point lace design?

2020-04-10 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi Elena,

Are you planning geometric or floral? If geometric, can use Lace8.
Otherwise probably easier to draft by hand unless you have a high-powered
drafting/drawing program, per Holly van Sciver.

Good luck.

Nancy

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Re: [lace] Nancy Neff

2020-03-14 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi everyone!

All is well. I accidentally posted on Facebook a weird video that did
rather look like I had fallen. I've deleted it and posted that I'm fine.

Thank you so much, Anna, for your concern. It's particularly reassuring
that people are looking out for each other in the current situation.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 09:23 Anna Binnie  wrote:

> Hi all is there anyone who lives close to Nancy or knows her physical
> address or phone number. There was an odd posting on Facebook minutes ago
> and she may have had a fall.
>
> Anna who is currently in NYC
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Re: [lace] Left handed tricks?

2020-03-02 Thread N.A. Neff
Brilliant!!

Nancy
Connecticut, USA


> ...
> I`m sitting on a stool and have mirror in my lap, size about 20 x 30 cm
> (8 x 12 inch).
> I work in front of the mirror, so I look at my work from the right side,
> as I would normally work.
>
> My student is sitting vice versa of me, looking *in the mirror* (not on
> the left side of my work).
> She or he will see me working as I would be a left handed.
> ...

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Re: [lace] Flickr Pro subscriptions met

2020-01-24 Thread N.A. Neff
April 2022 I trust.  :-)

On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 10:47  wrote:

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Re: [lace] Important changes to Flickr Pro subscriptions

2020-01-22 Thread N.A. Neff
I'll be glad to chip in $5. May I send it via PayPal friends & family so
there are no fees?

Nancy

On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 4:15 PM  wrote:

> As you all know, we now subscribe to Flickr Pro for the storage of our
> photos.  Flickr's prices are going up to $59.99 + tax for the annual
> plan or $117.99 + tax for the two year plan.  Last year we paid $49.99
> for the year, in April 2019.
>
> The offer I have received today from Flickr gives us the chance to renew
> at last year's prices, and makes it clear that  they will extend the
> term of our current Pro subscription, so I have decided to go ahead and
> renew.  I have chosen to subscribe for 2 years at a total cost of
> $100.29 incl tax.  This will keep our photos stored until April 15 2022.
>
> Various Arachne members offered to help share the cost when we next
> renewed and asked me to let them know when I next paid, so I am doing
> so!It would be great if we could find 20 Arachneans who would like
> to pay $5 each to cover this.  Please email me if you want to help pay
> for our photo storage
>
> Sue
>
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[lace] Agnes Herzog work

2020-01-22 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi everybody,

I hope this isn't a duplicate post, but there's a great article in
mymodernmet.com showing lots of Agnes Herzog's pieces -- gorgeous.

https://mymodernmet.com/lace-art-agnes-herczeg/

Enjoy!

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

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Re: [lace] Searching for a book?

2019-12-10 Thread N.A. Neff
PS: Bookfinder found a number of copies for sale:

https://www.bookfinder.com/search/?author=calderwood=letters=en=_used=*=us=USD=basic=sr=qr


(I put in Calderwood for the author, and "letters" for the title, for the
above search, as you can see in the URL.)

Nancy

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 5:39 PM N.A. Neff  wrote:

> Hi Elena,
>
> I don't know which of these is what Jourdain is referring to, but both the
> first looks like it's actually a published book, and is available in NYC in
> Columbia Univ. library, NY Public Library, and Brooklyn Public Library:
>
> https://www.worldcat.org/title/letters-and-journals-of-mrs-calderwood-of-polton-from-england-holland-and-the-low-countries-in-1756/oclc/4948944=brief_results
>
> This one says it's a print book also, but the listing looks like original
> diaries. This one is available only in three places in the UK but might
> just be a different form of entry for the same thing:
>
> https://www.worldcat.org/title/letters-and-journals-from-england-holland-and-the-low-countries-in-1756/oclc/229975156=brief_results
>
>
> I would guess that the book in the first WorldCat entry is what you're
> looking for. It's available in book, microfiche, etc.
>
> By the way, I searched in WorldCat using the terms "Calderwood Holland" in
> books. It produced only 30 hits, of which the above two were on the first
> page. It usually works best to just put in keywords because titles get
> changed all over the place.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Nancy
> Ashford, CT
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 4:13 PM Elena Kanagy-Loux 
> wrote:
>
>> ... I found a reference to a book by a Mrs. Calderwood
>> titled "Mrs. Calderwood's Journey Through Holland and Belgium" from 1756.
>> ... Does anyone have a copy of this book or know where I can find one?
>>
>>
>>

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[lace] England’s oldest lace bobbin discovered in Budleigh Salterton

2019-09-21 Thread N.A. Neff
Our very own world-renowned lace historian! Congratulations Brian!

https://eastdevonnews.co.uk/2019/09/19/englands-oldest-lace-bobbin-discovered-in-budleigh-salterton/

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[lace] Ithaca!

2019-08-22 Thread N.A. Neff
I got my first choice too! (Continuing Binche) Wouldn't it be nice if the
numbers all came out perfectly and everyone got their first choice? That's
my prayer to Arachne -- may everyone get their first choice.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

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[lace] History of lassen

2019-06-24 Thread N.A. Neff
"For 'lassen' of lace the following are required:
-- ...
-- Cotton thread in the same colour used to make the lace, but much
thinner. In the more substantial laces made of flax, a thin flax thread can
be used.
-- Thin smooth basting/tacking thread.
-- ..."

That's all that is said about the thread. There's no mention of the joining
thread in the section 4.1 History.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA


On Mon, Jun 24, 2019, 18:54 Bev Walker  wrote:

> Hello Nancy
> Does the translation offer any insight as to the source and size of thread
> needed for the stitching? ...
>

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[lace] Re: History of lassen

2019-06-24 Thread N.A. Neff
Yikes! What I have is a translation of Het Lassen -- it was in some binders
I inherited from another lacemaker!! So anyway, all that info in my email
is from Het Lassen en Aannaaien  van Kant, by Louise Allis-Viddeleer.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA


On Mon, Jun 24, 2019, 18:02 N.A. Neff  wrote:

> I have come across some excerpts from a 1993 handout for the Lace Teacher
> Training Program at Kantcentrum, on joining and attaching lace...
>
>

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[lace] History of lassen

2019-06-24 Thread N.A. Neff
I have come across some excerpts from a 1993 handout for the Lace Teacher
Training Program at Kantcentrum, on joining and attaching lace. There is a
section on lassen. The author (Louise Allis-Viddeleer) says what I've been
arguing for, that lassen developed when handkerchiefs developed flat-worked
corners and there were no longer ruffles or pleats in which to hide a seam.
She thinks this would have been during the 2nd half of the 19th C, which
seems reasonable to me. She cites examples of Mechlin from 2nd half 19th C
with lassen joins.

She also argues that lassen is a Belgian technique because in Belgium a
piece of lace starts with the threads plaited in bundles rather than hung
on in pairs, so there are not loops at the beginning into which to sew the
ends. She says that the following laces would make use of lassen: Flanders,
Valenciennes, Lille, Paris, Binche, and Mechlin.

If lassen is indeed of Belgium origin, which seems plausible, I would think
that someone at the Kantcentrum who is knowledgeable about joining and
attaching lace would be our most definitive source.

Nancy

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Re: [lace] Lassen

2019-06-21 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi Alice,

Do you have a reference for all that historical info about lassen? Het
Lassen?

The flounces and edgings I've seen with joins all have overcast seams,
which could be hidden in the ruffling of the flounce, but perhaps I've not
been looking hard enough -- if the lassen were well done, I guess it would
be easily overlooked. Of course, many of the flounces were needle lace, and
I've only ever heard of lassen on 90-degree gridded bobbin lace. Does your
understanding include more?

Thanks,
Nancy
Connecticut, USA

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 12:58 PM Alice Howell  wrote:

> Several years ago when I was learning about Lassen, I understood it to be
> a long-used method of connecting lace.  ...
>

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Re: [lace] Honiton? Beds?

2019-06-18 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi Devon et al.,

Yes, it's a straight lace so not Honiton. I think it's late 19th C and
probably German because it looks like the bobbin lace I've seen in several
reprints of late 19th / early 20th C German pattern books.

I've blathered on on the ning site some more about it, and also why it's
definitely not Honiton, so I won't repeat that here -- unless there is
interest from anyone without access to the ning site? Let me know.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 3:11 PM Adele Shaak  wrote:

> I’m not sure, but I’d say it was Beds because it not only doesn’t
have
> raised & rolled work, it also doesn’t have the coarse thread that I
connect
> with Honiton lace. Also it looks to me like it is made all-in-one - the
> motifs and the ground made at the same time.
>

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Re: [lace] Lassen question

2019-06-17 Thread N.A. Neff
It's called point de racroc, and is quite a different technique--it doesn't
overlap the two pieces at all but sews in a thread between the two pieces
of net that follows a path that connects the two pieces as if they were one
piece of net. In lassen, the sewing thread whips around the bars of the net
in the overlap area and will inevitably make a thicker area of net.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

On Mon, Jun 17, 2019, 16:26 jviking @sover.net  wrote:

> Is this the name that is used for the stitching to attach bands of
> Chantilly together to form the really big shawls? Or does that have
> another
> name?
>

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Re: [lace] Lassen question

2019-06-16 Thread N.A. Neff
When I blow up the photos to be able to see the path of the thread as it
whipped around bars in the net, it looks to me like the thread used for the
join is the same thread that was used to make the lace. It's certainly not
significantly finer.

Nancy

On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 7:05 PM Devon Thein  wrote:.

> ... What do you think about the thread size?
>
>>

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Re: [lace] Lassen question

2019-06-16 Thread N.A. Neff
Adele,

I'm thinking that a lassen technique might have developed when flat corners
meant one no longer had the gathers at the corners in which to hide the
seam. That's why I've asked in my last post if the seam is indeed in a
gathered part in handerkerchiefs with gathered corners. In handkerchiefs
with flat corners, I was trying to date the ones with drafted corners by
what I had understood from Pam Nottingham (but I'm convinced now that she
was talking only about point ground laces), because if the development of
lassen occurred because drafted corners took away the place to hide the
seam, dating drafted corners would tell us whether lassen was a recent
development or not.

So you are quite correct that lassen is whipping together an overlapped
section with matching pattern, but when and why lassen was developed might
have something to do with the occurrence of flat corners instead of
gathered corners. That's the association I see.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 6:44 PM Adele Shaak  wrote:

> My understanding is that lassen is used when the end of a pattern overlaps
> the beginning; and the patterns therefore match. This would have nothing to
> do with corners; it would be done in the one place in the lace piece where
> the end overlapped the beginning. So, if you were making a hankie that had
> drafted corners, you would work all the way around the pattern and then an
> inch or two past where you started so you can overlap and lassen it
> together.
> ...

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Re: [lace] Lassen question

2019-06-16 Thread N.A. Neff
Devon,

Quite a few of the handkerchiefs that were donated by the Duchesse de
Richelieu, in memory of the Princess Alice of Monaco, in 1963, were of
interest, largely because I couldn't see an obvious join in most of them.
Several had flat corners: e.g., 63.196.17.  In the ones with gathered
corners, I'd be interested again in the join and if it was "hidden" in the
gathers: e.g., 63.196.3.  I noted the accession numbers of several others
in that donation as ones to look at, but stopped making detailed notes
because I couldn't tell much from the photos: 63.196.2, 63.196.1,
63.196.16.  Others not in that donation: 59.62.7, 41.14.16, 08.47.27,
54.94.3, and 41.14.15.

The one that impressed me out of that batch donated was 63.196.12, a
figural Binche, but there the join was obvious (I think).

Your photos on ning IOLI are very good. That piece was one I had noted, and
thought it looked like the corners all had a seam.

Some of the needle lace handkerchiefs are quite distracting. :-) I really
regret being totally unable to do satisfactory needle lace.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA


On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 5:55 PM Devon Thein  wrote:

> ...Nancy, did you see any other handkerchiefs of interest? I might have
> photos.
>
>>

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Re: [lace] Lassen question

2019-06-16 Thread N.A. Neff
I guess I have to confess that I believed a source and shouldn't have, or I
totally misunderstood her: Pam Nottingham was emphatic that she and her
students were the first to design flat corners for edging handkerchiefs, in
the mid-twentieth C. She must have meant only Bucks because I've just
surveyed handkerchiefs in the Met's on-line catalog, and there are lots of
flat corners from the 19th C but in other types of lace. I saw only a
couple of joins, but the pictures aren't detailed enough to tell whether
there are joins hidden in the gathered part around a corner.

Go to  https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/  and put in
"Handkerchief lace". (without the quotes) Lots of the pieces that come up
in the 121 hits are needle lace but there are some really gorgeous pieces
so not painful to look at as you look through for the bobbin lace.

I think we need to assign Devon to look at all the bobbin lace ones in the
Met and tell us how the joins are made.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA


On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 2:49 PM N.A. Neff  wrote:

> I have few older handkerchiefs so I'm like Devon -- I can't say for sure,
> but I think in the ones I have that have gathered corners, there's a quite
> visible join. (They are in storage but I will try to dig them out soon.) I
> do know that the flat corners are a recent development (i.e., starting in
> the mid-20th C), and I agree with Devon, I think lassen may be a recent
> development dating from trying to make a continuous flat circular or square
> edging -- i.e., no older than mid-20th C. If this is true then there would
> be finer thread available (although I'm not sure about the 6-times finer),
> because modern straight lace edging is typically worked not much finer than
> about 140/2 Egyptian cotton, and there's 185/2 Egyptian cotton readily
> available, and I even saw 210/2 Egyptian cotton somewhere recently.
>

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Re: [lace] Lassen question

2019-06-16 Thread N.A. Neff
I have few older handkerchiefs so I'm like Devon -- I can't say for sure,
but I think in the ones I have that have gathered corners, there's a quite
visible join. (They are in storage but I will try to dig them out soon.) I
do know that the flat corners are a recent development (i.e., starting in
the mid-20th C), and I agree with Devon, I think lassen may be a recent
development dating from trying to make a continuous flat circular or square
edging -- i.e., no older than mid-20th C. If this is true then there would
be finer thread available (although I'm not sure about the 6-times finer),
because modern straight lace edging is typically worked not much finer than
about 140/2 Egyptian cotton, and there's 185/2 Egyptian cotton readily
available, and I even saw 210/2 Egyptian cotton somewhere recently.

This needs a little research I'd say. Interesting question.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 1:37 PM Clay Blackwell 
wrote:

> ...Corner work is continuous.  It doesn't require the finer thread. ...
>
>
> > On Jun 16, 2019, at 11:03 AM, Devon Thein  wrote:
> > ...whether lassen is a relatively recent development dating from the
> need to
> > match when doing a square handkerchief edging with corners.
>
>

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Re: [lace] Sfilato Siciliano drawn thread

2019-06-01 Thread N.A. Neff
(I hope your friend can read Italian! A search of JSTOR produced an even
100 pubs that mention sfilato but most are in Italian...)

On Sat, Jun 1, 2019, 15:41 N.A. Neff  wrote:

> ...
> Another source for scholarly papers would be to put sfilato into the
> search engines of publication databases such as ProQuest or JSTOR, or ...
>
> On Sat, Jun 1, 2019, 13:54 Jane Bawn  wrote:
>
>> I have a friend who is trying to find out more...
>>
>

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Re: [lace] Sfilato Siciliano drawn thread

2019-06-01 Thread N.A. Neff
Check with Angharad Rixon at textilesupport.net: email
i...@textilesupport.net. She is an expert on Italian lace and will be able
to tell you what's out there.

Another source for scholarly papers would be to put sfilato into the search
engines of publication databases such as ProQuest or JSTOR, or searching
academia.edu and researchgate.com might bring up researchers who have
published something on it.

HTH.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA


On Sat, Jun 1, 2019, 13:54 Jane Bawn  wrote:

> I have a friend who is trying to find out more...
>

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Re: [lace] Blonde in the 18th century

2019-05-07 Thread N.A. Neff
Devon,

Could it have been a typo? I find myself saying "eighteenth century" if I'm
thinking hard about dates that begin with "eighteen" -- i.e. the nineteenth
century. Simple mistake?

Or is it written in multiple places?

Nancy
Connecticut, USA


Devon Thein wrote:
... The previous catalogers were very good, so I am

> wondering why they may think that the piece is from the 18th century. It
> seems to me that, while blonde originated in the 18th century, at that time
> the style was for small motifs. Here is the link
>
> https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/215375?=All=Relevance=08.219=0=20pos=1
> ...

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[lace] On Arachne since 1996

2019-04-28 Thread N.A. Neff
I think I must have joined in 1996 because I'd already been on the list
quite a while when we had our get-together in Nottingham. I was still a
relatively new lacemaker when I joined so you all were a godsend. I can
check how early, actually, because I even printed out some of the early
posts, not yet entirely comfortable with electronic-only storage! Wow,
things sure change in a quarter of a century.

Pleased Arachne is still going strong. It's such a valuable resource.

Nancy
Connecticut,  USA

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[lace] Lace Tour in Italy 2021

2019-04-26 Thread N.A. Neff
Good news! Angharad Rixon is going to lead another of her lace tours of
northern Italy.

https://www.textilesupport.net/product-page/lace-in-italy-tour-2021

I went on this tour in 2017, which she planned at the time to be the last
one, and it was wonderful. I would like to go on it again except that
spaces are quite limited and to take up one for a second time around would
be really selfish. But that's how great that tour is. Plus it's a wonderful
introduction to the real Italy.

If anyone has any questions about my experience on it, please feel free to
email me. It will fill up fast, however, so even though 2021 seems like a
long way away, I recommend that you register right away if you are
interested.

Nancy
Back in Connecticut, USA, after a trip of over 34,000 miles!!

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Fwd: [lace] Lace coasters - Made in China?

2018-12-31 Thread N.A. Neff
Message from Jeri Ames. Her email is behaving oddly.

Nancy
Connecticut,  USA

-- Forwarded message -
From: Jeri Ames 
Date: Mon, Dec 31, 2018, 15:06
Subject: Re: [lace] Lace coasters - Made in China?
To: 
Cc: , 


Do you remember that we had a discussion about 20 years ago about laces for
sale in Belgium (at the time of the OIDFA 1998 Ghent Congress), and that
one member of this list - in Belgium - had a daughter who had been employed
to change labeling on items made in China (like this) to "Belgian Lace"?
There is a law in Belgium that lace made elsewhere must be labeled as such.
If it is made in Belgium, label will say "Made in Belgium".

Let us hope someone in Belgium can confirm this is still the case.  If
labeling is/was changed in Europe, it is something to remember far into the
future, after I am able to remind you of it. It could be happening
everywhere!  I actually talked with a Chinese man in Ghent whose purpose, I
thought, was to facilitate the copying of laces - something none of us
would ever forget. We all MUST talk with people - it is how we learn these
things!

How labeling would be handled in the U.S. is a question yet to be answered,
because there were many years when imports from China were not permitted -
by law. I do not know if Nancy Evans (U.S.) is subscribed to Arachne. I
have bought antique laces from her and attended her IOLI lace
identification classes in Bethesda a few years ago. She is a good resource,
and a bcc of this note is going to her. I believe Elizabeth Kurella (U.S.)
is a subscriber, and she may be able to contribute additional
identification insight. A Belgian expert is Diane Claeys (pronounced to
rhyme with Ice - as in Clice), who used to sell antique laces in the
central square of Brussels. At some point she moved from Belgium to Japan.
She may be reading this and have some answers. I am sending a bcc copy to
her last known (2005) address. Search her name in Arachne archives for more
information

A lot has been stripped from Arlene's letter (below) to shorten, per our
Web Master's requests.

Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center

In a message dated 12/30/2018 1:57:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,
lorri...@msn.com writes:

This is very likely what Nancy Evans (a nationally known lace historian)
calls 'mission lace' - lace made by women in mission schools.  I will send
a copy of this to her and perhaps she will answer you.
Lorri Ferguson


Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 9:04 AM
Subject: [lace] lace coasters - made in China?

I was recently given a set of 10 "lace coasters", as they were labeled,
from a thrift store in Arizona for $5 (!).  They were wrapped in tissue
paper with a label from Robinsons Department Store in Los
Angeles. They look like handmade lace and not machine lace, especially as
you can see the join.  You can see pictures:
http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history/forum/topics/lace-coasters?xg_source=activity


..I find myself still interested in the "Made in China" stickers that are
on these.  The stickers are on 7 out of 10... Does anyone have any reliable
resources about handmade bobbin lace in China?
Particularly this quality?  Is this level of quality of handmade lace still
made there?  Or does anyone know its years of likely production?  Also,
"Made in China" - if this is correct, they would have to be older than 1948
or newer than 1978 (between those years, supposedly no items *coming to the
U.S.* from China, but I can't get a handle on when stickers would have been
used to mark goods (as opposed to plates or something that would be
stamped/imprinted).  Any suggestions of where to research these topics?
Arlene in NJ

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Re: [lace] Re: Expanding cloth stitch with weaving techniques

2018-12-19 Thread N.A. Neff
Veronika,

Excellent analysis, pictures, and discussion! (What are you using for your
diagrams? Inkscape?) At the end of the discussion on your website, you
commented about whether the pattern will show up in bobbin lace, and it
occurred to me that perhaps adding some extra twists and crosses
judiciously in the body of the area, not just at the edges, might product a
well-defined pattern (although based on but not really a proper twill, of
course). This may be irrelevant since the question was initially about
doing classic weaving in the cloth-stitch areas of bobbin lace, but I
thought I'd offer it as a tangent, since it might produce some interesting
patterns when combined with your method of producing a twill.

All,

The other thing that occurs to me, as another tangent, is that a different
form of weaving would lend itself to bobbin lace: tablet weaving (in the US
often called card weaving) produces a warp-faced fabric with pairs of
threads twisted around each other above and below the weft. I think the
bobbin lace version would be easy to produce since twisting the 'warp'
threads is easy, but unless lots of 'warp' threads were added at the start
of the solid area, one would get a much more open weave with lots of 'weft'
showing.

Just some random thoughts.

Nancy


On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 8:35 PM vmi  wrote:

>
> ...2/2 twill has a float of only two threads which I think might hold
> together better. ...
>
> Veronika Irvine
>
>
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Re: [lace] Another review of "Lace, not Lace"

2018-12-16 Thread N.A. Neff
My pleasure!

On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 20:52 DORIS O'NEILL  wrote:

> Thank you so much for that link.
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[lace] Another review of "Lace, not Lace"

2018-12-15 Thread N.A. Neff
Dear Arachnids,

I can't find anywhere in the archives a post from Angharad Rixon giving the
link to my review of "Lace, not Lace" on her blog, only a mention earlier
that she was waiting for it. So here's the link, in case anyone would like
to read another review:

https://www.textilesupport.net/single-post/2018/11/09/Lace-%25E2%2580%2593-not-Lace-a-Spectacular-Exhibition-of-Modern-Fiber-Art-Using-Traditional-Lace-Making-Techniques

(If it has been posted on the list already, my apologies for the
duplication.)

Nancy
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Re: [lace] Re: Carrickmacross, Silk Mill, Buttons, Painting Yarn

2018-12-08 Thread N.A. Neff
Okay, I just created album "Carrickmacross guipure" with an example. It's
been badly washed so the loops at the edge are collapsed, but those loops
identify it as Carrickmacross.

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 12:13 PM N.A. Neff  wrote:

> Actually there's a guipure form of Carrickmacross that is lace without
> question. It's much less common than  the applique form. I'll try to find a
> good picture to put up on Arachne2003...
>
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Re: [lace] Re: Carrickmacross, Silk Mill, Buttons, Painting Yarn

2018-12-08 Thread N.A. Neff
Actually there's a guipure form of Carrickmacross that is lace without
question. It's much less common than  the applique form. I'll try to find a
good picture to put up on Arachne2003; my specimens are too hard to dig out
right now or I'd photograph those...

With regard to whether applique is truly lace or not, there are other forms
of applique that are indubitably lace, such as Brussels applique. I think
the net ground makes the applique form of Carrickmacross lace even by
purist lacemakers' definition.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

Jeri Ames wrote:

We know that technically, this is embroidery and applique
applied by hand to a pre-existing foundation fabric (usually net).

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[lace] Re: Founder of US lace manufacturer

2018-12-02 Thread N.A. Neff
Found a couple of more details: the company is Lace Feminique, and a couple
of patents are assigned to him.
https://patents.justia.com/assignee/morton-jablin


On Sun, Dec 2, 2018, 11:28 N.A. Neff  wrote:

> Some of you may find interesting the brief snippet of background on the
> man who is the subject of this article: it says the company he founded
> still owns 45 of the 70 lacemaking machines in the US. (Otherwise the
> article is fluff, sorry.)
>
>
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/irenelevine/2018/12/01/captain-of-his-destiny-the-man-who-has-lived-on-a-cruise-ship-for-13-years/amp/
>
> Nancy
> Connecticut,  USA
>

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[lace] Founder of US lace manufacturer

2018-12-02 Thread N.A. Neff
Some of you may find interesting the brief snippet of background on the man
who is the subject of this article: it says the company he founded still
owns 45 of the 70 lacemaking machines in the US. (Otherwise the article is
fluff, sorry.)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/irenelevine/2018/12/01/captain-of-his-destiny-the-man-who-has-lived-on-a-cruise-ship-for-13-years/amp/

Nancy
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[lace] "Lace -- not Lace" photos

2018-11-04 Thread N.A. Neff
Hello,

Many of the photos in the "Lace, not Lace" album on our Flickr site,
Arachne 2003, are really good shots, much better than those I took. I have
permission from Sue Babbs to include several of her photos with my review
of the exhibition for Angharad Rixon.

I'd like to use three of the first set that were uploaded, however, and I
would appreciate someone telling me whose they are so I can ask permission
to include them. (I have searched the Arachne archives using seven or eight
different sets of search terms, without success.)

Thanks in advance,

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

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Re: [lace] Go see Lace, Not Lace

2018-09-25 Thread N.A. Neff
I doubt that you can order it from the museum. However Amazon has it.
https://smile.amazon.com/Lace-not-Contemporary-Lacemaking-Techniques/dp/173262240X

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018, 15:13 Amanda Babcock Furrow 
wrote:

> I would like to order the exhibit catalog but I do not see any place on
> Hunterdon's website to order catalogs.  How would I go about this?
>
> Amanda in Philadelphia
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Re: [lace] Hunterdon Lace Not Lace exhibit opening!

2018-09-24 Thread N.A. Neff
I second Lorraine! I talked at length with several non-lacemakers also, who
were particularly fascinated by bobbin lace and how it's made. AND one of
the museum people said with wonder and delight that the reception drew a
far bigger crowd than any other they had held! So double congratulations to
Devon and all the lacemakers in the show!! It was marvelous.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

On Mon, Sep 24, 2018, 00:41 L. E. Weiss  wrote:

> Congratulations to Devon Thein for a remarkable exhibit...
>

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Re: [lace] Cameras [was World Lace Congress of 2018 in Brugge, Belgium]

2018-09-18 Thread N.A. Neff
Sorry, just searching for that issue doesn't work. Here's the URL for the
article:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/minding-the-body/201709/using-your-smartphone-camera-mindfulness-tool

There are also lots of articles claiming that taking photos ruins one's
memory, mostly from 2013. The current work on using cameras to see more and
remember more emphasizes how the camera is used, suggesting that a
mindfulness approach can be aided by a camera. I expect a camera can be
used thoughtlessly too -- certainly I have my doubts about how much the
selfies are aiding memory.

In my experience, taking detailed photographs of lace, concentrating on
capturing important detail, helps me really SEE the lace and remember those
details later. When we were in a rush a couple of times during the lace
tour of Italy, I had to take photos quickly without analyzing what I wanted
to photograph, and of course there was no mindfulness effect. Partly also
depends on the ease and skill of the photographer I expect.

Nancy
Connecticut,  USA

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018, 09:35 Avital  wrote:

> Are you sure it's this issue?
> https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/magazine/archive/2017/09
>

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[lace] Re: Cameras [was World Lace Congress of 2018 in Brugge, Belgium]

2018-09-16 Thread N.A. Neff
Forgot to include the date of the Psychology Today article. It was in the
September 2017 issue.

On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 6:03 PM, N.A. Neff  wrote:

> There is a recent article in Psychology Today () that summarizes some
> recent findings...
>

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[lace] Cameras [was World Lace Congress of 2018 in Brugge, Belgium]

2018-09-16 Thread N.A. Neff
I used to travel without camera, computer, or phone, thinking I was seeing
more that way. However, there have been studies showing that people
perceive more about what they are seeing when they look with a goal of
capturing and documenting what they are seeing.

There is a recent article in Psychology Today () that summarizes some
recent findings:  "In a series of experiments, participants navigated
either a real-life museum or a virtual art-gallery. Some could choose to
take pictures of objects that caught their attention, either by using an
actual camera or by clicking an on-screen button. Others didn’t have this
option.

"Afterward, people in the picture-taking groups had a better visual memory
for specific objects they had seen, compared to those who couldn’t take
pictures. Not surprisingly, the effect was strongest for objects they had
photographed. But to a lesser extent, it held true for objects they didn’t
photograph as well."

Reference:   Barasch A1, Diehl K2, Silverman J3, Zauberman G4.
"Photographic Memory: The Effects of Volitional Photo Taking on Memory for
Visual and Auditory Aspects of an Experience."  Psychol Sci. 2017
Aug;28(8):1056-1066; abstract available at
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28650721

This research has even led to "Contemplative Photography", using this
effect to grow one's perceptivity and connection to the world. One of the
entries in a Google search is:
"Seeing Fresh: The Practice of Contemplative Photography  (seeingfresh.com/)
Contemplative photography is a method for seeing and photographing the
world in fresh ways, to reveal richness and beauty that is normally hidden
from view."

Now I take a camera with me as I travel, and have indeed found that I see
more when I really look, and a camera helps me focus on doing that. (pun
admitted!)

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 5:32 PM, J-D Hammett  wrote:

> Also, I so agree with you that I refuse to spent important experiences
> behind
> a camera.
>


> From: Jeri Ames
> Sent: 16 September 2018 21:09
>
I travel without phone, computer, or camera because of an old-fashioned
preference for absorbing all that is around me.

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Re: [lace] Holes in Binche

2018-09-07 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi Jane, I really don't think so. The best old Binche / Val have very few
holes at the corners and curves of the cloth-stitch areas. Might you be
thinking of Flanders and modern Val? They have holes between the outer ring
and the inner ring pair.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

On Thu, Sep 6, 2018, 15:31 Jane Partridge  wrote:

> ... one of the laces was to be identified by the small holes around the
> edges - it wasn't Binche, was it? If so, trying to avoid the holes might be
> removing an intentional effect???
>
>

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Re: [lace] The whys & wherefores of using temporary pins in Binche

2018-09-06 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi Susan,

Ulrike's rule is to use a support pin where it helps! If you use very fine
insect pins, and remove them after a few rows, they won't leave a hole.

"Fine" means size 00 or 000. Van Sciver Bobbin Lace carries them, or it may
be faster and less expensive shipping from Amazon, unless you are
philosophically opposed to Amazon:
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B014MTBYUY/ref=nav_timeline_asin?_encoding=UTF8
sc=1
or
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B078NBMHN2/  or
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B074DBRHYC  or
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07CCJ922P/ref=sspa_dk_detail_0?psc=1  or
https://smile.amazon.com/Black-Enamel-Insect-Pin-000/dp/B01H0NHA5W

etc. :-)

Cheers,

Nancy
Connecticut, USA


On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 1:14 PM, Susan  wrote:

> ...should I use a support pin at that point to help keep the newly
> discarded “weaver turned passive” in place? ...
>

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Re: [lace] Re: Mystery Thread

2018-09-06 Thread N.A. Neff
Alright!  NOW I'm happy. :-)  Thanks Cindy!

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 10:32 AM, Cindy Rusak  wrote:

> ...I have a cone of thread that still has the original plastic cover and
> labels on it (including the 9052), and it is the exact same as Lorri's
> except it is 70/2.  The FFR red label does say Fil de Lin Dentelles, so I
> think Lorri's thread is linen.
>

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Re: [lace] Re: Mystery Thread

2018-09-06 Thread N.A. Neff
There's also a test to distinguish cotton from linen done by pulling the
thread apart and testing the strength of the fibers. Bottom of right-hand
column on first page:
http://www2.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/articles/hr1_fibr.pdf

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Re: [lace] Re: Mystery Thread

2018-09-06 Thread N.A. Neff
I'm sorry to be a stickler, but it is actually not conclusive that what
Lorri has is linen on the basis of Jane's evidence. Jane's second cone,
which is labeled linen, has a different stock number (9051 instead of
9052). We still don't have a 9052 with an outer label on it. Neither of the
two cones in the picture, that are definitely labeled linen, match either
cone color of the 9052's. And Jane's 9052 is size 140/2, which is very fine
for a linen--not impossible of course, but less likely.

It would be nice to have Lorri's thread examined under higher
magnification. First, there's a quality difference:
"If you have access to a microscope, telling cotton and linen apart is
quite easy. Pick a few fibres off a thread and place them under the
microscope. Linen has smooth, straight fibres while cotton looks almost
wooly. It's a bit like straight vs curly hair." (
http://www.marquise.de/en/themes/howto/stoffkunde.shtml)

Secondly, and I think this is definitive, linen fibers and cotton fibers
come from different parts of the plant. Linen fibers are from the inner
bark of the flax stem ("bast fibers") and show nodes along their length.
Cotton fibers, from seed hairs in the flower head, do not have such nodes:
"An important property of bast fibres is that they contain a special
structure, the fibre node, that represents a weak point, and gives
flexibility. Seed hairs, such as cotton, do not have nodes."  (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bast_fibre)

Also, there are details of the burn test that would be more evidence,
although not nearly as definitive as the fiber structure. The website
http://mytextilenotes.blogspot.com/2010/02/distinguishing-linen-from-cotton.html
has a distinguishing criterion:
"5. On burning a linen thread, the fibers lie in the same position as
before with no change except the scorched appearance. Burning a cotton
thread causes the fibers to spread like a tuft."

Back to the lab bench, Lorri!!

Nancy


On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 4:55 AM, Jane  wrote:

> ...
> One is on a grey cone with an internal sticker
> ART 9052
> 140/2
> ...
> The second cone is blue with an internal sticker
> Art 9051
> 100/2
> ...
> The main thing is that this second cone is unused and is in its original
> wrapper. The wrapper has a sticker stating (in blue ink)
>
> Fil de Lin a Dentelles
> ...
> I've just searched on line and there is a photo on the website
> https://bobbinlace.online/2017/09/24/thread-use-bobbin-lace-
> use-linen-bobbin-lace-thread/
> that shows two cones on the left of the picture, one is blue like mine,
> the other is green with a red label. The article makes clear that these are
> linen threads
>
> So you are correct in that the thread is linen.
> ...

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Re: [lace] Mystery thread

2018-09-04 Thread N.A. Neff
Lorri,

I'm surprised that the linen threads are fuzzy under magnification. I would
have thought fuzzy would mean cotton. Too late at night now but I will
examine some thread tomorrow. What say the experts? Is my ignorance showing
again?

In any case, what I really wanted to post is not to be shy about posting
questions like the one you did in this case. I, for one, learned from the
discussion, and I enjoyed the opportunity to work on a puzzle. I think
others did too. Arachne is great for good information exchange. Questions
like yours trigger a lot of that. Thank you!

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

On Tue, Sep 4, 2018, 19:57 Lorri Ferguson wrote:
... (10 power)- it is quite 'fuzzy' at that magnification, like a another
known linen. ...

>
> Thank you all so much for your help and next time I will do a more
> complete examination before I ask for help.
> ...

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[lace] Working with black thread [was "Thread"]

2018-09-04 Thread N.A. Neff
I have found black thread hard to work with if the pricking is made of a
card too light in color. If the contrast is too great, then the eye has
trouble seeing the details of the black threads. (Same with photographing
or photocopying black lace.) So it might seem contrary, but using a medium
to darker color for your pricking or background makes the contrast within
the black thread paths clearer.

I have come to greatly prefer a medium-dark red card for my prickings, for
white, ecru, and black threads all. It is much easier on my eyes than the
brighter or lighter blue cards.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

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Re: [lace] Mystery thread

2018-09-03 Thread N.A. Neff
That would make sense of the thread being larger than the 80/2 Brok
cotton!  Lorri, when you looked at it under magnification, is the FFR
thread fuzzy or smooth? and is the twist the same direction as the Brok
cotton? S or Z?   Is the cone cool to the touch when you pick it up?

To the experts out there, how does one differentiate between linen and
mercerized cotton on the cone?

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 3:29 PM, Gabriele Patzner 
wrote:

> ... “Brillante” was their label for Bouc Linnen, if I am not mistaken.
It
> was originally produced by them and they sold 2500 m spools of 80/2, so it
> might well be you have got one of those.

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Re: [lace] Mystery thread

2018-09-03 Thread N.A. Neff
The postal codes for Aalst, in the SE of the Netherlands, are 5308 XX,
where XX are two varying uppercase letters, and nearby is 5305 XX and 5307
XX. The postcode 9052 XX (with two letters again) is in the Grouw region,
up in the NW. Also, postcodes were introduced into the Netherlands in 1976
-- any idea how old your thread is?

WRT the plastic cone: polyethylene, which the cone is likely to be, was
re-discovered in 1933, so  Lorri's thread might well predate the take-over
by Coats. I'd be surprised if they were still using "FFR" without adding a
"Coats" label somewhere if the cone was from after 1960 (another argument
against the postcode suggestion).

Oh I do love some good sleuthing! Thanks Lorri!!

Nancy
Connecticut, USA


On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Adele Shaak  wrote:

> ...
> The number 9052 could be a stock number, as Nancy suggests, but since it
> comes directly after the place-name “Aalst”, I would not be surprised if
it
> was the European equivalent of a Zip code. ...
>

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Re: [lace] Mystery thread

2018-09-03 Thread N.A. Neff
And do a burn test. FFR started manufacturing synthetics and blends between
the world wars.

On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 3:05 PM, N.A. Neff  wrote:

> PS: I don't see anything that says "cotton" ("katoen" in Dutch). You'll
> have to look at it under magnification.
>
>

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Re: [lace] Mystery thread

2018-09-03 Thread N.A. Neff
PS: I don't see anything that says "cotton" ("katoen" in Dutch). You'll
have to look at it under magnification.

Test strength before using: if it's yellowed, I'll bet that it's "rotten".

Nancy
Connecticut, USA


On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 2:40 PM, Lorri Ferguson  wrote:

> ...Am I correct that it is 80/2 cotton?
>

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Re: [lace] Mystery thread

2018-09-03 Thread N.A. Neff
See http://www.ethesis.net/aalst_textiel/deel_I/aalst_textiel_deel_I_2_g.htm
.

FFR is an acronym for the company ( Filature et Filteries Réunies), and I
think "Aalst" is the name of the town.  "9052" is probably their stock or
product number.

80/2 is surely the weight, "Wit" and "Blanc" = white

"ca 2500M" = about 2500 meters ("circa" = about)

and I would guess "Brillante" means optic white or bleached. If it's cream
now, I expect it's yellowed because of how it was stored or perhaps just
age.

What do you think?  HTH

Nancy
Connecticut, USA


On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 2:40 PM, Lorri Ferguson  wrote:

> ...
> There is a sticker inside the bottom reading:
>
> FFR Aalst
> 9052
> 80/2Wit Blanc
> ca 2500M
> Brillante
>
> Can you tell me any thing about it?
>

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[lace] Re: [lace] Corbett’s Flanders

2018-09-03 Thread N.A. Neff
AMEN. As a published author, I can attest that it was very frustrating to
see a couple of errors after publication in one of my books. But errata are
a fact of life -- we're none of us perfect, and it's important that
corrections be shared so others don't waste time and energy struggling with
the same issues. One of the consolations I took away from others' pointing
out my errors was that it showed they were reading the book! which is
flattering when you think about it. For us to be studying a book so
intently that we find errors, and to be making lace from a pattern book,
proves that the author has produced something worthwhile, something the
community is finding useful. Armed with this realization, I think most
authors find errata useful in that second editions can be made that much
better by fixing the issues found.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 11:29 AM, Susan  wrote:

> ... I am certain the lace author has sweated bullets to make the
> information available & he/she is likely mortified that gremlins crept into
> the book. ...

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Re: [lace] brainstorming about color

2018-09-02 Thread N.A. Neff
I think a light-ish yellow or light-ish green, a somewhat lighter version
of crocus leaves. Not too intense yellow or green, so the background
doesn't overwhelm the lace, but not so light either that it blends with the
paler part of the periwinkle.

I think either yellow or green would make it look very floral. Are you
planning to do a piece of lace with a floral design? The periwinkle is very
pretty!

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

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Re: [lace] wool replacement

2018-09-02 Thread N.A. Neff
SORRY! forgot to trim.

On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 5:06 PM, N.A. Neff  wrote:

> Sue,
>

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Re: [lace] wool replacement

2018-09-02 Thread N.A. Neff
Sue,

What kind of texture do you want the finished item to have? Soft and a
little fuzzy perhaps, or with crisp distinct stitches? I ask because if you
want the latter, you might be happier with a harder yarn such as one used
for weaving.  Search on something like "cotton yarn weaving UK". For
example, my search turned up a place in the UK that sells weaving cottons
(e.g.
http://airedaleyarns.co.uk/index.php/yarns-fibres-for/weaving/double-top-dk-cotton-skeins.html),
in several different sizes, at least two of which have various colors and
sound heavy enough for your purposes.

If you find two or three weaving yarn websites that look promising, I'll
bet they all would send you six inches of each of the sizes they carry so
you could evaluate coverage of your plastic canvas. In general, I'll bet
they would be happy to answer questions about the tightness of the twist,
number of plies, etc. of the different yarns.

Just some thoughts, HTH.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA


On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 4:36 PM,  wrote:

> Hi, In the US we have lots of sources for cotton yarn in all different
> weights - sport, DK, sock, etc. and an incredible range of colors.
> Knitpicks is one source.  I'd suggest searching for Cotton Yarn and the
> weight you want. Or maybe Cotton Thread and the weight.
>
> I make lots of cotton scarves and have been doing some freeform crochet in
> cotton in a myriad of colors!
>
> Jane in Vermont USA with lots of green leaves!
> jvik...@sover.net
>
> > Hi Arachnids
> > My bobbin lace items for now are up to date for now and once we are back
> from
> > our golden wedding anniversary celebrations and holiday and then I have
> a
> > couple of items I want to make with the plastic canvas but cant use wool
> or
> > similar fibres and it makes me cough and choke too much.  Can anyone in
> the UK
> > tell me of a thick cotton fibre which could be used instead please for 7
> or 10
> > holes per inch canvas that will come in reasonable colours for christmas
> pieces red, blue, white etc.  I have no idea what I might even search
> for.
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Re: [lace] Lace legends?

2018-09-01 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi Devon,

Well, this may be hubris on my part, but I partially disagree with your
ophthalmologist. He says "You cannot damage your eyes by using your eyes."
Actually, one gradually looses one's ability to focus at distance if one
primarily uses one's eyes for close work. In modern times this has been
largely caused by excessive reading as children and not using our far
vision enough. (In adults who drive, even those of us who read obsessively,
the problem tends not to get worse, but the damage is done by that time.)

This makes sense because focusing is accomplished by muscles behind the
iris pulling on the lens and changing its shape to adjust where the light
rays converge inside the eye. The convergence needs to be exactly on the
retina for sharp focus, so the lens needs to be more rounded to focus on
near objects. This requires the muscles attached to the lens to relax. And
focusing at a distance requires the lens to be flatter, accomplished by the
muscles pulling on the lens and stretching it out slightly. So if one
seldom focuses on distant objects, the muscles atrophy and the ability to
focus on distant objects is lost. Use it or lose it.

Perhaps losing near vision from age and far vision from only focusing close
up was what was meant by "going blind". I can tell you from experience
that, without glasses, one is effectively blind in that condition-- perhaps
one could call it the "Mr. Magoo effect", for those of us of a certain age.

Therefore it is important to look up occasionally while reading, or making
lace or other near work, and look off into the distance, to keep those
muscles active.

So I partially disagree with your ophthalmologist: you can damage your eyes
if you use them in an imbalanced manner.

Nancy,
nit-picking in Connecticut, USA  :-)

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> The theory that you lose your eyesight from making lace is a
> persistent one. I once consulted my ophthalmologist about this,
> fearing for my own eyesight, and he said, "You cannot damage your eyes
> by using your eyes."  ...

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Re: [lace] Re: Viking needlelace !?!

2018-08-31 Thread N.A. Neff
Sorry, not Tafel 29 (Plate 29), but Figure 29 (Abb. 29), item b -- p. 119
of the PDF. And Levey's quote below refers to bobbin lace, which I've not
found an example of. The items I'm identifying as lace are needlelace.

On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 2:27 PM, N.A. Neff  wrote:

> I think Levey might have overlooked something. The German text
> specifically says that Tafel 29, item b, was done without a ground fabric.
>
> Nancy
> Connecticut, USA
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 2:20 PM, Devon Thein  wrote:
>
>> ..."but for the remains of some fragments of the ground material, could
>> be taken for primitive bobbin lace." So, I guess [Levey] is characterizing
>> these interesting fragments as embroideries that have lost their fabric.
>>
>
>

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Re: [lace] Re: Viking needlelace !?!

2018-08-31 Thread N.A. Neff
I think Levey might have overlooked something. The German text specifically
says that Tafel 29, item b, was done without a ground fabric.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

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> ..."but for the remains of some fragments of the ground material, could be
> taken for primitive bobbin lace." So, I guess she is characterizing these
> interesting fragments as embroideries that have lost their fabric.
>

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Re: [lace] Fine linen threads

2018-08-31 Thread N.A. Neff
Oh Elise! This is wonderful!!! Please post updates to Arachne as things
progress!

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Elise Waber Hays 
wrote:

> I posted about my interest in experimenting with different cultivars of
> flax to produce a fine linen thread in 2016. I guess it is time for an
> update! By using a research facility,  I was able to obtain seeds for 4
> cultivars not commercially available; ...

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Re: [lace] Re: Demise of Fine Linen Lace, was Faery Lace

2018-08-31 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi Jane,

Some of the pieces I have are made with linen thread as fine or finer than
180 cotton. The thread in one lappet is so fine that it is hard to see in
the cloth-stitch areas that it's made of thread at all.

I will try to upload a photo to Arachne on Flickr when I get home.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 12:41 PM, Jane  wrote:

> Can anyone be more specific? What do you mean by "fine linen thread"?
>
>

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Re: [lace] Demise of Fine Linen Lace, was Faery Lace

2018-08-31 Thread N.A. Neff
It has taken a concerted effort, in modern times, to set up seed banks, in
which seeds of strains no longer being grown or of species threatened with
extinction, are saved and protected. Seed isn't viable forever: these seed
banks have to maintain special conditions to store the seed. If I were an
individual in a country being threatened or invaded by a hostile army, and
with shortages of food and other items, perhaps a woman whose husband has
been conscripted and whose children are hungry, saving some seeds of a
plant no longer useful to me would be the last thing I'd bother with, even
if I could keep the seed viable. We need to look at the situation from the
perspective of the people under the conditions of the time. Why would they
be willing to save something that could get them killed (the French
Revolution scenario) or something no longer useful to them (WWI, economic
pressures)?

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 3:01 AM,  wrote:

> "...It appears that the seeds from next years crop comes from this year's
> crop.  That being said, I cannot see a flax grower of the very fine flax
> not saving some of those seeds..."
>

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