Re: [lace] Fwd: Lace Magazine #169

[Adele Shaak]

Benton & Johnson! Yes, that was it. I couldn’t find them on the web any more - 
thanks for the info that I should be looking for Toye, Kenning & Spencer.

Not that I want anything, but I do like to keep up with who the suppliers are 
and where I can find them.

Adele

> 
> Benton and Johnson are now part of Toye, Kenning, & Spencer, "By
> Appointment to Her Majesty the Queen, Suppliers of Gold & Silver Laces,
> Insignia, and Embroidery", since 1685. I didn't look hard for gold frogs,
> but they might still make them. Website: https://www.thetoyeshop.com/
> 
> Monforte Systemfil in Spain makes gold passementaries (
> http://www.monfortesystemfil.com), but I doubt that the English royalty buy
> it from Spain now or in Queen Victoria's time

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Re: [lace] Fwd: Lace Magazine #169

[Jean Leader]

> On 2 Feb 2018, at 20:46, Adele Shaak  wrote:
> I just got my “Lace” magazine - does anybody know this frogging technique?

Gil Dye has instructions for working this frogging in ‘Surface Decoration in 
Silk and Metallic Threads’, Book 3 of her Sixteenth & Seventeenth Century Lace 
series. It’s a copy of what are called 'silver gilt lace leaves’ in the 
Hardwick Hall records.

Jean in chilly Glasgow 
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Re: [lace] Fwd: Lace Magazine #169

[Carolyn Wetzel]

 Nancy and Adele -

Benton and Johnson are now part of Toye, Kenning, & Spencer, "By
Appointment to Her Majesty the Queen, Suppliers of Gold & Silver Laces,
Insignia, and Embroidery", since 1685. I didn't look hard for gold frogs,
but they might still make them. Website: https://www.thetoyeshop.com/

Monforte Systemfil in Spain makes gold passementaries (
http://www.monfortesystemfil.com), but I doubt that the English royalty buy
it from Spain now or in Queen Victoria's time

-Carolyn

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Massachusetts, USA

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Re: [lace] Fwd: Lace Magazine #169

[Kim Davis]

​"​
 Adele Shaak  wrote:Back when I was doing embroidery, I
recall there was a place in London where they sold real gold threads and
purls, etc, for use in uniforms. Does anybody know if that company is still
running - or  better still,
​"

Yes, I think you mean Benton and Johnson.  Their things can be found on
this website:
https://www.thetoyeshop.com/benton-johnson.html

It is very similar to what is used in the German regional costumes.  If you
need any sources for that, let me know, I have several.

Kim​

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Re: [lace] Fwd: Lace Magazine #169

[N.A. Neff]

Hi Adele,

I don't know if they are in London, but Benton & Johnson carry bullion,
gold passing, etc. Are they who you were remembering?

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 3:46 PM, Adele Shaak  wrote:

> I just got my “Lace” magazine - does anybody know this frogging
technique?
> Was it traditionally made using ribbon or a metal strip? The picture looks
> to me like a thin strip of gold-coloured metal, rather than ribbon, but I
> haven’t heard of the technique before and I don’t know for sure.
>
> Back when I was doing embroidery, I recall there was a place in London
> where they sold real gold threads and purls, etc, for use in uniforms. Does
> anybody know if that company is still running - or  better still, what its
> name is?
>
> Adele
> West Vancouver, BC
> (west coast of Canada)
>
> >> A photo that caught my eye accompanies the announcement of Gil Dyes
> Early
> > Lace class at Hardwick Hall in June. The photo is of a frogging panel
> such as
> > those found on ornate uniforms. It looks like metallic thread worked in
> bobbin
> > lace over thin ribbon! I found that particularly interesting because
I’ve
> > been watching the Victoria series 2 on PBS. The use of lace in the
> costumes is
> > just fantastic.
> >>
> >> Jean
>
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Re: [lace] Fwd: Lace Magazine #169

[Adele Shaak]

I just got my “Lace” magazine - does anybody know this frogging technique? Was 
it traditionally made using ribbon or a metal strip? The picture looks to me 
like a thin strip of gold-coloured metal, rather than ribbon, but I haven’t 
heard of the technique before and I don’t know for sure. 

Back when I was doing embroidery, I recall there was a place in London where 
they sold real gold threads and purls, etc, for use in uniforms. Does anybody 
know if that company is still running - or  better still, what its name is?

Adele
West Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)

>> A photo that caught my eye accompanies the announcement of Gil Dyes Early
> Lace class at Hardwick Hall in June. The photo is of a frogging panel such as
> those found on ornate uniforms. It looks like metallic thread worked in bobbin
> lace over thin ribbon! I found that particularly interesting because I’ve
> been watching the Victoria series 2 on PBS. The use of lace in the costumes is
> just fantastic.
>> 
>> Jean

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