Re: [lace] Blonde in the 18th century

[N.A. Neff]

Devon,

Could it have been a typo? I find myself saying "eighteenth century" if I'm
thinking hard about dates that begin with "eighteen" -- i.e. the nineteenth
century. Simple mistake?

Or is it written in multiple places?

Nancy
Connecticut, USA


Devon Thein wrote:
... The previous catalogers were very good, so I am

> wondering why they may think that the piece is from the 18th century. It
> seems to me that, while blonde originated in the 18th century, at that time
> the style was for small motifs. Here is the link
>
> https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/215375?=All=Relevance=08.219=0=20pos=1
> ...

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Re: [lace] Blonde in the 18th century

[Elena Kanagy-Loux]

Hello everyone,

Devon and I have been discussing this mantilla in person today and I showed
her this handy little PDF from the V on lace identification which I
thought you might all enjoy. Not as thorough as Earnshaw of course but
still great.
Here's the link:
http://www.dressandtextilespecialists.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Lace-Booklet.pdf


Best,
Elena

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Re: [lace] Blonde in the 18th century

[Maria Greil]

Hello.
Blonde is made with cloth stitch and Chantilly with half stitch.
Devon, I can tell you something on mantillas because I have collected them
and now there is an exhibition of them in a German lace Museu.
María Greil



El mar., 7 de mayo de 2019 18:46, Lbuyred  escribió:

> I am wondering what the difference is between black blonde and Chantilly?
> Liz R, Raleigh NC
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> > From: Devon Thein 
> > Here is the link
> >
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https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/215375?=All
> y=Relevance=08.219=0=20pos=1
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Re: [lace] Blonde in the 18th century

[Jeri Ames]

Dear Devon,
I realize that all those with Gmail will not receive this, but this is the
best way for me to reply.
Do you still have a lace contact at The Hispanic Society of America, in New
York City?  Perhaps they will be the best resource for you.  And, have you
taken a look at the vintage lace books by Florence Lewis May?  As you will
remember, she was the foremost Spanish/Portuguese lace expert 80 years ago,
and maybe there is something of value in her research, which was published by
The Hispanic Society of America.
Jeri
In a message dated 5/7/2019 12:17:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,
devonth...@gmail.com writes:

We have a piece of black blonde which appears to be made into a skirt ofthe
1890s. It may have started life as a mantilla or mantillas. The pieceis
cataloged as 18th century. But, I feel that black point ground lace wasmore a
lace of the 19th century. It has large motifs which was a popularthing in the
1820s and 1830s. Also black point ground lace was very popularin the mid 19th
century. The previous catalogers were very good, so I amwondering why they may
think that the piece is from the 18th century. Itseems to me that, while
blonde originated in the 18th century, at that timethe style was for small
motifs. Here is the
linkhttps://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/215375?=All
ortBy=Relevance=08.219=0=20=1
The number is 08.219 in the Metropolitan Museum of Art collection.I have
posted additional photos on the laceioli.ning site, the lace historygroup.Does
anyone have any insight into why this is considered to be 18th century?Devon
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Fwd: [lace] Blonde in the 18th century

[Lbuyred]

I am wondering what the difference is between black blonde and Chantilly?
Liz R, Raleigh NC

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> Here is the link
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y=Relevance=08.219=0=20pos=1
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[lace] Blonde in the 18th century

[Devon Thein]

We have a piece of black blonde which appears to be made into a skirt of
the 1890s. It may have started life as a mantilla or mantillas. The piece
is cataloged as 18th century. But, I feel that black point ground lace was
more a lace of the 19th century. It has large motifs which was a popular
thing in the 1820s and 1830s. Also black point ground lace was very popular
in the mid 19th century. The previous catalogers were very good, so I am
wondering why they may think that the piece is from the 18th century. It
seems to me that, while blonde originated in the 18th century, at that time
the style was for small motifs. Here is the link
https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/215375?=All=Relevance=08.219=0=20pos=1

The number is 08.219 in the Metropolitan Museum of Art collection.
I have posted additional photos on the laceioli.ning site, the lace history
group.
Does anyone have any insight into why this is considered to be 18th century?
Devon

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