Re: [lace] Jeri's Narratives

2017-12-07 Thread Catherine Barley 
Oh dear, where has all this come from!  I too, have clearly missed something 
something as I was out all day yesterday, checked my emails before retiring to 
bed last night (I'm in the UK) and there was nothing about all this ranting and 
Jeri leaving the list, both subjects which appear to me at least, to have 
originated from the US?  These emails have come into my mail box overnight and 
this is the first I have read about any discontent from either Jeri or the 
rants!

I'm so sorry that Jeri is 'resigning' from Arachne, because she is such a 
valuable asset to our group and has even once more, provided us all with 
valuable information about the confiscation of rosewood bobbins and DMC phasing 
out some lace making threads!  She is clearly very upset that few of us take 
just a very short time out of our days, to thank her for the time and trouble 
she takes to collate all of this information and then share it with us through 
Arachne. Very few even bother to post on Arachne these days, compared to the 
number of postings we used to have, and it too would seem to be in danger of 
disappearing altogether if we don't make an effort to keep it going.  I'm as 
guilty as anyone and have really enjoyed reading the thread these last few days 
about whether or not pins were used in every hole and every row of the point 
ground laces, even though I no longer make bobbin lace, only needlelace!  Life 
is too short and if we don't do something about it, we might !
 also lose Jeri and Arachne!  Where shall we all go if we need advice or 
information if both or even one of these lifelines disappear I wonder.  I still 
have no idea what all the ranting is about!

The written word can so easily be misinterpreted, resulting in anger and 
frustration.  Please read your postings very carefully before hitting 'Send' on 
your computer, to make sure that your posting is not ambiguous in any way and 
in danger of being misinterpreted by a recipient.

Catherine Barley from a dark, miserable windy morning in the UK




Catherine Barley Needlelace
www.catherinebarley.com

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Subject : Re: [lace] Jeri's Narratives

Here are 2 topics someone might write about this week:  1) Some governments
are confiscating rosewood bobbins (as if they were as endangered as ivory) and
2) DMC and Anchor's phasing out of some lace making threads - in the U.K., but
maybe elsewhere, too?  I read about these yesterday on the home page of
www.nelg.us .
 
Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center 
 
In a message dated 12/6/2017 6:34:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,
k...@wirelace.net writes:

 
I have found over the past year that I do not get most of Jeri's. I also feel I 
must have missed something. I
sincerely hope that we are not loosing her.

Kim

I think I must have missed an email. How are we losing Jeri?
> Liz, Raleigh, NC

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Re: [lace] Jeri's Narratives

2017-12-07 Thread Janis Savage 
What is this all about? As a lacemaker who is not interested in other people's 
arguments I don't even want to read about it.

Please Avital, censor all this badmouthing so we can all get back to the 
friendly group that this has always been.

Janis in South Africa.



From: owner-l...@arachne.com <owner-l...@arachne.com> on behalf of Lin Hudren 
<linhud...@gmail.com>
Sent: 07 December 2017 12:54 AM
To: Daphne Martin
Subject: Re: [lace] Jeri's Narratives

Daphne Martin
2:14 PM (12 minutes ago)
to me
I nearly choked at this!!

is this bad?

Yes I think so. The way you have treated Janet is not a Christian way to be
and its upset me immensly

i am sorry that you feel that way.  Janet kicked Amber in the tush 4 years
ago and you didn't respond.  so your being hurt on her behalf is
admirable.  your loyalty is awesome.  i did not do anything to Janet.  she
disappointed the group when she took over.  she didn't honor requests for
the exchanges.  she paired up partners that were paired even at the last
exchange.  she ignored other exchanged partners.  she has not honored the
group's wishes individually.  she, nor you. have been involved in the group
with communication for at least the last year.  your kicking me in the tush
and hurting the group has a lot to be considered.  do you care about the
group in your isolated environment?  your animosity isn't geared to the
group's well being and growth. you have a personal grudge that caused a
riff in the group because you think you are above the members.  i feel very
sorry for you.  of course, i would appreciate your support as adamant as
you are.  but, Daphne, you are a riot creator and not a supporter of having
things work to the good of those who wish to share and care.  you are not a
participant gear to more other than to hurt others.

i do not wish you ill.  i think you are a lonely and lonesome person who
has nothing else to do but hurt others. i am sorry that you chose to kick
me in the teeth when i only wish to gift the group activity and growth for
those who participate in the open. you are a sneaky hurtful person and that
isn't in the best interest of the group as a trying to learn and share.  i
am so sorry for you and our hurtful efforts.  as you open the Christian
effort.  so you think hurting other hurting is Christian?  you have hurt
the group.  doing elisting others to do your dirty work was hurtful.  Jenny
denied her gifting to the group for your kicking me in the tight was a
major hurt to the group.

i hope you will rethink your animosity and will be blessed in the after
life because you denied and hurt others because you have instigated others
(Jenny) to do your dirty work.  i don't think you should be a part of this
group. you do not contribute, you just instigate unrest.




Hugs, Lin and the Mali



On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Daphne Martin <ladylace...@msn.com> wrote:

> Yes I think so. The way you have treated Janet is not a Christian way to
> be and its upset me immensly.
>
> Regards
> Daphne xx🌹
>
> Sent from my IPad
>
> On 6 Dec 2017, at 21:58, Lin Hudren <linhud...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> is this bad?
>
>
> Hugs, Lin and the Mali
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Daphne Martin <ladylace...@msn.com> wrote:
>
>> I nearly choked at this!!
>>
>> Love
>> Daphne xx🌹
>>
>> Sent from my IPad
>>
>> On 6 Dec 2017, at 21:19, Lin Hudren <linhud...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> We are in the throes of losing this most cherished gift.  Jeri has
>> dedicated herself to knowing historical, practical and knowledgeable lace
>> information.  i think as a group we need to encourage her to keep letting
>> us know that her knowledge shared with us is worthy.  i don't see much
>> feedback to her for her sharing with us.  if you are doing it off line as
>> i
>> do, that is good but i do not think sufficient.  please take the time to
>> gift her with appreciation.  i have gained much from her missives.  is
>> there anyone out there who does not learn something from her work?
>>
>> this is a group of sharing and caring.  please help me to encourage her to
>> continue sharing with us the knowledge she has gained for many years of
>> research and collection of information which she willingly gifts to us.
>> thank you.
>>
>> Hugs, Lin and the Mali
>>
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Re: [lace] Jeri's Narratives

2017-12-06 Thread Jeri Ames 
Everyone, Yes I am phasing out my participation on Arachne.  I just will not
fight the battles with aol and gmail.  What I've been doing is bcc-ing Devon,
Sue Babbs and Lin Hudren (users of gmail) - all of whom complained they were
not getting what I wrote.  Now, I have learned that Kim Davis (who uses net)
is not getting my letters!  This is shocking to me, because I value the work
Kim does and am sometimes able to be of assistance to her in connection with
the volunteer work she does at The Lace Museum in Sunnyvale California.
 
When one of our very well-known lace leaders visited me for a week last
Summer, I asked her to look at how I manage my permanent aol files, and then
tell me if I should switch to gmail.  She advised against.  She has seen my
considerable paper files in the studio, slept in the library surrounded by
thousands of lace and embroidery books, is aware there are many periodicals
stored in what should be the guest bedroom, etc.  I am up to my ears in paper
copies, because so many of you have written about losing all your files to a
computer failure.  She knows a great deal about technology, and I trust her
judgement that I not go to gmail.
 
Please do not jump to the conclusion that I need another round of your advice.
 Many of you have written in the past, and I have digested what you
recommended.  I am well-aware that you love your personal arrangements.  I
like my aol filing system and do not wish to devote more time to it, which a
switch to gmail would require.  Further, the computer guru at the Senior
Center near me supports aol.  But not gmail.
 
Imagine how much time is spent writing for you and doing searches and research
and then triple what you think that might be.  Please realize there are other
things that I have identified as being of importance to lace.  I do not see
many people eager to take on my self-designated role (I did offer to train
apprentices a few years ago, and found that within a month the people I'd
spent so much time getting prepped were drawn away by family problems. I do
not process excuses of "my teenager has gotten into trouble" very well.
 
Lin Hudren is definitely correct.  Because of disappointment in my ability to
rally others to communicate on lace topics, I am gradually drifting away from
Arachne.
 
Here are 2 topics someone might write about this week:  1) Some governments
are confiscating rosewood bobbins (as if they were as endangered as ivory) and
2) DMC and Anchor's phasing out of some lace making threads - in the U.K., but
maybe elsewhere, too?  I read about these yesterday on the home page of
www.nelg.us .
 
Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center 
 
In a message dated 12/6/2017 6:34:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,
k...@wirelace.net writes:

 
I have found over the past year that I do not get most of Jeri's
postings. I have found out about them when someone else replies, or when
Devon posts them, but do not get them when Jeri posts them. As I recall,
there was some sort of issue with this for many people which was discussed
a few months back. I also feel I must have missed something. I
sincerely hope that we are not loosing her.

Kim

I think I must have missed an email. How are we losing Jeri?
> Liz, Raleigh, NC

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Re: [lace] Jeri's Narratives

2017-12-06 Thread Liz Roberts 
I don't get Jeri's posts either. When someone mentions them, I have to go to 
the archives to read them unless someone else shares them. Isn't it something 
to do with AOL? I certainly appreciate any knowledge about lacemaking that 
others care to share.


Liz Roberts in Missouri where it has turned cold.





-Original Message-
From: Kim Davis 

I have found over the past year that I do not get most of Jeri's
postings.  I have found out about them when someone else replies, or when
Devon posts them, but do not get them when Jeri posts them. 

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Re: [lace] Jeri's Narratives

2017-12-06 Thread Kim Davis 
​I have found over the past year that I do not get most of Jeri's
postings.  I have found out about them when someone else replies, or when
Devon posts them, but do not get them when Jeri posts them.  As I recall,
there was some sort of issue with this for many people which was discussed
a few months back.   ​I also feel I must have missed something.  I
sincerely hope that  we are not loosing her.

Kim

I think I must have missed an email.  How are we losing Jeri?
> Liz, Raleigh, NC
>
>
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Re: [lace] Jeri's Narratives

2017-12-06 Thread Lin Hudren 
Daphne Martin
2:14 PM (12 minutes ago)
to me
I nearly choked at this!!

is this bad?

Yes I think so. The way you have treated Janet is not a Christian way to be
and its upset me immensly

i am sorry that you feel that way.  Janet kicked Amber in the tush 4 years
ago and you didn't respond.  so your being hurt on her behalf is
admirable.  your loyalty is awesome.  i did not do anything to Janet.  she
disappointed the group when she took over.  she didn't honor requests for
the exchanges.  she paired up partners that were paired even at the last
exchange.  she ignored other exchanged partners.  she has not honored the
group's wishes individually.  she, nor you. have been involved in the group
with communication for at least the last year.  your kicking me in the tush
and hurting the group has a lot to be considered.  do you care about the
group in your isolated environment?  your animosity isn't geared to the
group's well being and growth. you have a personal grudge that caused a
riff in the group because you think you are above the members.  i feel very
sorry for you.  of course, i would appreciate your support as adamant as
you are.  but, Daphne, you are a riot creator and not a supporter of having
things work to the good of those who wish to share and care.  you are not a
participant gear to more other than to hurt others.

i do not wish you ill.  i think you are a lonely and lonesome person who
has nothing else to do but hurt others. i am sorry that you chose to kick
me in the teeth when i only wish to gift the group activity and growth for
those who participate in the open. you are a sneaky hurtful person and that
isn't in the best interest of the group as a trying to learn and share.  i
am so sorry for you and our hurtful efforts.  as you open the Christian
effort.  so you think hurting other hurting is Christian?  you have hurt
the group.  doing elisting others to do your dirty work was hurtful.  Jenny
denied her gifting to the group for your kicking me in the tight was a
major hurt to the group.

i hope you will rethink your animosity and will be blessed in the after
life because you denied and hurt others because you have instigated others
(Jenny) to do your dirty work.  i don't think you should be a part of this
group. you do not contribute, you just instigate unrest.




Hugs, Lin and the Mali



On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Daphne Martin  wrote:

> Yes I think so. The way you have treated Janet is not a Christian way to
> be and its upset me immensly.
>
> Regards
> Daphne xx🌹
>
> Sent from my IPad
>
> On 6 Dec 2017, at 21:58, Lin Hudren  wrote:
>
> is this bad?
>
>
> Hugs, Lin and the Mali
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Daphne Martin  wrote:
>
>> I nearly choked at this!!
>>
>> Love
>> Daphne xx🌹
>>
>> Sent from my IPad
>>
>> On 6 Dec 2017, at 21:19, Lin Hudren  wrote:
>>
>> We are in the throes of losing this most cherished gift.  Jeri has
>> dedicated herself to knowing historical, practical and knowledgeable lace
>> information.  i think as a group we need to encourage her to keep letting
>> us know that her knowledge shared with us is worthy.  i don't see much
>> feedback to her for her sharing with us.  if you are doing it off line as
>> i
>> do, that is good but i do not think sufficient.  please take the time to
>> gift her with appreciation.  i have gained much from her missives.  is
>> there anyone out there who does not learn something from her work?
>>
>> this is a group of sharing and caring.  please help me to encourage her to
>> continue sharing with us the knowledge she has gained for many years of
>> research and collection of information which she willingly gifts to us.
>> thank you.
>>
>> Hugs, Lin and the Mali
>>
>> -
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Re: [lace] Jeri's Narratives

2017-12-06 Thread Lbuyred 
I think I must have missed an email.  How are we losing Jeri?
Liz, Raleigh, NC

> On Dec 6, 2017, at 4:19 PM, Lin Hudren  wrote:
> 
> We are in the throes of losing this most cherished gift.  Jeri has
> dedicated herself to knowing historical, practical and knowledgeable lace
> information. 

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[lace] Jeri's Narratives

2017-12-06 Thread Lin Hudren 
We are in the throes of losing this most cherished gift.  Jeri has
dedicated herself to knowing historical, practical and knowledgeable lace
information.  i think as a group we need to encourage her to keep letting
us know that her knowledge shared with us is worthy.  i don't see much
feedback to her for her sharing with us.  if you are doing it off line as i
do, that is good but i do not think sufficient.  please take the time to
gift her with appreciation.  i have gained much from her missives.  is
there anyone out there who does not learn something from her work?

this is a group of sharing and caring.  please help me to encourage her to
continue sharing with us the knowledge she has gained for many years of
research and collection of information which she willingly gifts to us.
thank you.

Hugs, Lin and the Mali

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