Re: [lace] Lace in Vietnam Warp/Weft
I used to dabble in weaving too. and I gave it up when I needed the space and when I gave it some thought I really hated dressing the loom when I did I usually did more than one thing with one warp If I get back into it I may get one of the rigid heddle looms.. smaller and simpler... what got me started in the historic crafts is when I took up spinning 25 years ago... and have been trying them all since with bobbinlace being my favorite. Most recently have taken up rug hooking... love this not a lot of prep time and no need for written instructions... great for my ADD Faye Hegener going back and forth from Facebook, countrylife and farmville,,, - Original Message - From: Susie Rose susierose_89...@yahoo.com To: joybee...@comcast.net, jeria...@aol.com Cc: lace@arachne.com Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:53:44 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Lace in Vietnam Warp/Weft Hello to One All! Im also a weaver. IMHO woof meaning weft came into being through a misunderstanding by 2 people where one's native tongue was different than the other. My Mom was Danish could mangle english quite well. I would piggyback many projects off of 1 warping of my loom. Warping a loom is NOT my favorite thing to do. It usually takes about 75 percent of the project's time! One warping I got 7 tablerunners...with a white warp. The next warp, beige, I just tied the thread ends together, three runners on that warp. They were Anerican Colonial patterns that I reproduced. The only difference in them was the color of the weft the order of the tredling. (Making the sheds to throw the weft.) Hugs, Susie Rose On Thu Jun 24th, 2010 6:28 AM PDT Joy Beeson wrote: On 6/14/10 10:44 AM, jeria...@aol.com wrote: David: All you have to remember is that (in English) weft rhymes with left, and that left and right are horizontal. Another way is to remember that weft is that which is woven. Dunno how woof fits in, but warp and woof is obsolete anyway. [checks Merriam-Webster second edition] Weft actually is a form of wefan, the old-English word that became weave. Synonyms are woof, shoot, and filling. I suspect that shoot is the result of throwing the shuttle *once*, not all of the filling; that sort of detail is apt to be left out of a general dictionary. (I'm too lazy to Google, and haven't a beginners' weaving book on me.) Shoot is more appropriate now than it was when the dictionary was written: nowadays they blow the weft in with a jet of air instead of using a shuttle. There is a trick way to remember warp, Best just to remember that warp is the other one. Or to reflect that a loom must be warped before weaving can commence. (I have read that warping is more than half the job, so weavers try to plan several projects that can be woven on the same warp.) When you work cloth stitch, the passives are warp and the workers are weft. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange http://home.comcast.net/~debeeson/DaveCam/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where there are now only 73 messages in the Lace folder. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Lace in Vietnam Warp/Weft
Or, as one weaver told me You have to be warped to weave! Liz Raleigh, NC, USA Regina Haring rmhar...@optimum.net wrote: Warping the loom comes first, and the word warp is alphabetically before weft. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Lace in Vietnam Warp/Weft
On 6/14/10 10:44 AM, jeria...@aol.com wrote: David: All you have to remember is that (in English) weft rhymes with left, and that left and right are horizontal. Another way is to remember that weft is that which is woven. Dunno how woof fits in, but warp and woof is obsolete anyway. [checks Merriam-Webster second edition] Weft actually is a form of wefan, the old-English word that became weave. Synonyms are woof, shoot, and filling. I suspect that shoot is the result of throwing the shuttle *once*, not all of the filling; that sort of detail is apt to be left out of a general dictionary. (I'm too lazy to Google, and haven't a beginners' weaving book on me.) Shoot is more appropriate now than it was when the dictionary was written: nowadays they blow the weft in with a jet of air instead of using a shuttle. There is a trick way to remember warp, Best just to remember that warp is the other one. Or to reflect that a loom must be warped before weaving can commence. (I have read that warping is more than half the job, so weavers try to plan several projects that can be woven on the same warp.) When you work cloth stitch, the passives are warp and the workers are weft. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange http://home.comcast.net/~debeeson/DaveCam/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where there are now only 73 messages in the Lace folder. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Lace in Vietnam Warp/Weft
Hello to One All! Im also a weaver. IMHO woof meaning weft came into being through a misunderstanding by 2 people where one's native tongue was different than the other. My Mom was Danish could mangle english quite well. I would piggyback many projects off of 1 warping of my loom. Warping a loom is NOT my favorite thing to do. It usually takes about 75 percent of the project's time! One warping I got 7 tablerunners...with a white warp. The next warp, beige, I just tied the thread ends together, three runners on that warp. They were Anerican Colonial patterns that I reproduced. The only difference in them was the color of the weft the order of the tredling. (Making the sheds to throw the weft.) Hugs, Susie Rose On Thu Jun 24th, 2010 6:28 AM PDT Joy Beeson wrote: On 6/14/10 10:44 AM, jeria...@aol.com wrote: David: All you have to remember is that (in English) weft rhymes with left, and that left and right are horizontal. Another way is to remember that weft is that which is woven. Dunno how woof fits in, but warp and woof is obsolete anyway. [checks Merriam-Webster second edition] Weft actually is a form of wefan, the old-English word that became weave. Synonyms are woof, shoot, and filling. I suspect that shoot is the result of throwing the shuttle *once*, not all of the filling; that sort of detail is apt to be left out of a general dictionary. (I'm too lazy to Google, and haven't a beginners' weaving book on me.) Shoot is more appropriate now than it was when the dictionary was written: nowadays they blow the weft in with a jet of air instead of using a shuttle. There is a trick way to remember warp, Best just to remember that warp is the other one. Or to reflect that a loom must be warped before weaving can commence. (I have read that warping is more than half the job, so weavers try to plan several projects that can be woven on the same warp.) When you work cloth stitch, the passives are warp and the workers are weft. -- Joy Beeson http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange http://home.comcast.net/~debeeson/DaveCam/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where there are now only 73 messages in the Lace folder. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Lace in Vietnam Warp/Weft
Warping the loom comes first, and the word warp is alphabetically before weft. Regina - Original Message - From: Joy Beeson joybee...@comcast.net To: jeria...@aol.com Or to reflect that a loom must be warped before weaving can commence. (I have read that warping is more than half the job, so weavers try to plan several projects that can be woven on the same warp.) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Lace in Vietnam Warp/Weft
jeria...@aol.com wrote: David: All you have to remember is that (in English) weft rhymes with left, and that left and right are horizontal. It's all these little hints which make life so much easier. Thank you Jeri for my new piece of knowledge today. A comment was made today our Guild meeting. The curator was talking about storing lace and that she'd had to buy more oven bags. Some girls had a giggle thinking that she had said the wrong thing. The fact is that the oven bags we have in Australia are made by the 'Glad' company and are acid free. Cheers, Shirley T. - with cold toes and fingers as morning temps are dropping to about 2C. br but we still need more rain. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Lace in Vietnam Warp/Weft
Shirley, Very interesting. I had to go check on my oven bags and mine are made by the Reynolds Co. I'll have to check the store and see if they have the ones by Glad. Wonder if ours would be acid free? Patsy A. Goodman Chula Vista, CA, USA Tregellas Family endso...@internode.on.net wrote: It's all these little hints which make life so much easier. Thank you Jeri for my new piece of knowledge today. A comment was made today our Guild meeting. The curator was talking about storing lace and that she'd had to buy more oven bags. Some girls had a giggle thinking that she had said the wrong thing. The fact is that the oven bags we have in Australia are made by the 'Glad' company and are acid free. Cheers, Shirley T. - with cold toes and fingers as morning temps are dropping to about 2C. br but we still need more rain. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Lace in Vietnam Warp/Weft
Some caution would be wise here. The Conservation section at the Powerhouse Museum said a few years ago that the manufacturers now include other chemicals so the oven bags are probably no longer of archival status. The older ones are often stiffer and more crinkly. The newer ones are more like plastic. They were so convenient too Barbara Ballantyne in Sydney Australia where it delightfully sunny -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of kar...@cox.net Sent: Wednesday, 16 June 2010 5:46 AM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Lace in Vietnam Warp/Weft Shirley, Very interesting. I had to go check on my oven bags and mine are made by the Reynolds Co. I'll have to check the store and see if they have the ones by Glad. Wonder if ours would be acid free? Patsy A. Goodman Chula Vista, CA, USA Tregellas Family endso...@internode.on.net wrote: It's all these little hints which make life so much easier. Thank you Jeri for my new piece of knowledge today. A comment was made today our Guild meeting. The curator was talking about storing lace and that she'd had to buy more oven bags. Some girls had a giggle thinking that she had said the wrong thing. The fact is that the oven bags we have in Australia are made by the 'Glad' company and are acid free. Cheers, Shirley T. - with cold toes and fingers as morning temps are dropping to about 2C. br but we still need more rain. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Lace in Vietnam Warp/Weft
David wrote: Now while I can never remember which is warp and which is weft, the woman explained that they were currently making a fabric which had the vertical threads of cotton and the horizontal threads on the shuttle were of silk. David: All you have to remember is that (in English) weft rhymes with left, and that left and right are horizontal. There is a trick way to remember warp, but I'll not give, to save that memory space for lace!! Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Lace in Vietnam Warp/Weft
I remember it as the weft does the weaving. Similarly in lacemaking, our worker pairs are also known as weaver pairs. aka the weft pairs! Subject to change to become warp or passives as the pattern requires ;) On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:44 AM, jeria...@aol.com wrote: David wrote: Now while I can never remember which is warp and which is weft,... David: All you have to remember is that (in English) weft rhymes with left, and that left and right are horizontal. -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Lace in Vietnam Warp/Weft
In my experience, the sillier the memory aid, the easier it is to remember. Weft sounds like the past tense of weave to me; the weaver has weft. Or it goes weft to wight. For warp, I think of Star Trek. Warp speed is obviously going forward, not sideways. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com = David wrote: Now while I can never remember which is warp and which is weft, the woman explained that they were currently making a fabric which had the vertical threads of cotton and the horizontal threads on the shuttle were of silk. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
