http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/webdocs/lb_2010_15.pdf

I wrote an article with the help of Arachne members way back about pins. It
can be found (hopefully) by clicking on this above link or else the tiny URL
below and scrolling down to it.

The article was more  historic than opinion, but I might have ventured a
little in that direction.

I am sure that poor and isolated lace makers would have utilized any available
substitutes for pins and bobbins.  There quite few examples of bone slivers
being used as pins (not specifically for lace makers)  The anecdotal evidence
for fish bones makes it believable as does the use of thorns.

If we look at our own lives we often make use of substitutes until we can
afford the real thing; I am guessing lace makers did the same.

When that article was being written here was a very detailed history of pins
put out by a Needle and Pin manufacturer, which was really very interesting

Brian and Jean
>From Cooranbong. Australia
You can read my bobbin stuff on:
http://tiny.cc/egb85


Here is some of the correspondence we had back then.

I was, in my undergraduate years, a student of Art History.
I still look at paintings, sculptures, and architecture as
lasting documentation of cultural norms that were sometimes
not documented otherwise.  So I look at very old paintings
of lace makers, and I've not come across any which depict
crude "knuckle bones" being used for bobbins.  But let's
face it...  by the time the painters of the era recognized
lace for the art that it was, the equipment had evolved to a
respectable level.  We  have portraits of lots of wealthy
patrons wearing cutwork and needle laces - but no paintings
of the lower class who produced these masterpieces.
Likewise, we have portraits showing early bobbin lace, but
the means with which it was produced has not been shown in
any work with which I'm familiar.

I'm inclined to join the school of skeptical thought that
argues that if the fish bone were fine enough for the lace
being made, it would not withstand being driven into the
pillow and holding up under tension.  I suspect that a poor
lace maker purchased pins in whatever quantity she could
afford, and then guarded them carefully.  While thread
supplies must be replenished, pins could last a very long
time if carefully used.

Clay

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Lemin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 10:10 AM
Subject: [lace] Fish bones


> Your lateral thinking is quite original and worthy of
serious consideration
> until it is disproven.  Like many things in lace history
we are not really
> sure about the truth of the matter.
>
> At one time I had a pretty full paper on the history of
pins but goodness
> knows where it is now!
>
> Suffice to say that, yes they were quite expensive, but
the lace was even more
> expensive.  If you could afford the lace you could afford
the pins.
>
> Brass pins (if I remember correctly) were available at
that time, thus
> reducing the rust problem.
>
> The whole business of pins, relates mostly to the makers
who, for the most
> part, were not at all well off, but there were periods of
relative prosperity;
> but lets face it, most of them were poor.  So they turned
to cheap
> alternatives.  Fishbones if you lived near the sea and
chicken bone slivers if
> you were in an agricultural community.  Thorns are said to
have been utilized
> too, but the heads of those are rather large to me.
>
> Couple with this folk history are the chicken/ other
animal bones for
> bobbins.
>
> As a personal view I tend to accept these tales, but it is
interesting that we
> have excavated quite old bobbins but not bones that are
associated with the
> occupation.  Of course, bones would not necessarily be
considered lace tools
> by the archaeologists! and thus passed over.  I have in
the back of my mind
> that that bones were used initially as bobbins and thus
they developed into
> bobbins, and after that they were used only to supplement
the bobbins on the
> pillow.
>
>
> What do other members think?
>
>
>
>
> Brian and Jean from Cooranbong Australia

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