It strikes me that we are discussing two different animals. What constitutes contest rules and what is published when.
Tamara P. Duvall wrote - > IOLI claims the first right to publication for competition entries -- I think that's the reason they request that the pattern and instructions be included with the lace. To me, the request suggests that those are *a part of the entry* > While this is more or less standard boiler plate in most contest rules, I am not certain where else I would publish the entry prior to them, except on the web. But I would think that in creating a "pattern" it can only be called that if it can be reproduced (i.e. imitated) consistantly by someone other then yourself. > Naturally, ..., I'm most interested in seeing published patterns for the laces which had won the competition -- ... Yet, that's not *always* the case; sometimes, the first prize only gets a photo, and the published patterns are for pieces which hadn't even placed, What's the reason for that??? I think the editors over the years have done a good job in presenting us with interesting Bulletins over the years. But I suspect it has not been with a certain amount of trials and tribulations. My entry from last year will be in the current issue coming out. But not without its own problems and Debra kindly let me have the time to work them out with out pushing. I have found that everything I have submitted to the editors over the years has been included at some point. That alone recognizes the fact that the rest of you really need to send in some interesting items so that the editors are not reduced to having to publish my drival. > If the instructions are too complex/long to be printed in full ... the author would be willing to supply them to individuals ... Alternatively, a limit can be set on how long the instructions *can* be...> As a designer you should never limit yourself or design based on what it will look like in a publication. And a group offering the contest should not limit you either. Simple or complex, arrangements can be made. Write small <grin> Though seriously, how does one write directions for a pattern? Do you aim it at a beginner or advanced audience? Can you write understandable directions? Not everyone can. I tend to write in my own shorthand. Even my designs are created to make it simple for me to do and I have the redo the pattern to the standardized symbols before I send it into the contest. And one reason I make lace at my desk with the pillow in my lap is so that I can write the directions while making up one of the versions. (Patterns are like potato chips, you can't have just one) > If the instructions are not "fit for print" ... then the entry has not met the requirements. ... It should either be relegated to the non-competitive "display" ... "points" taken off for the "gap". Either that, or the requirement for including the pricking/instructions should be removed from the entry form> Well, maybe we can have an "affirmative action" for those deficient in one or more of requirements. But would probably be unwieldy to administrate. I agree that it is frustrating to invest so much time and effort into a finished piece and then have to wait to see it published. it's aimed more at the current "powers that be: can anyone enlighten me on the *precise* criteria for judging an entry? Or on what *constitutes* an entry? > While the entry form does not state that a pattern is necessary, it does note at the bottom if one was received. The web site specifically states that a pattern and directions with are included with the lace piece and that the "above information" (presumabley pattern, direcections and working notes) may be used for publication in the bulletin. So that is fairly clear. The question now is how they interpret this compared to others interpretation. > I admit to having a personal interest in the whole thing; illustrating patterns and writing the text is *the* most time-and-effort-consuming part of producing a "piece", and the one I like the least; if the requirement were dropped, I probably wouldn't bother.> Again I agree that it takes time and effort, but personally I would not forgo the process of directions and illustrating. To me that is part of designing. It gives me a record of how I approuched the pattern and generally the process triggers an idea for an addition design that may deviate from the original. Enough for now. *************************************** Kenn Van-Dieren Bobbins by Van-Dieren 2304 Clifford Avenue Rochester, NY 14609-3825 Tel: 585.654.5711 Cell: 585.750.8842 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: www.bobbinmaker.com ***************************************** - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]