[lace] Re: Demise of Fine Linen Lace, was Faery Lace

2018-09-01 Thread Jane
Thank you to everyone who replied to my question - just how fine is fine 
linen thread?


Sorry I've not replied to everyone individually.

One of the reasons I asked was because I had a rummage in my boxes and I 
have some old wooden 'cotton' reels that originally held Knox's linen 
thread. One is Knox's Falcon 2 cord 150, another is Knox's Dragon 3 cord 
150. I can't decide if the scrap of thread on the 3 cord 150 is original 
or not. It looks fine - I can only imagine what 240/2 must have been like.


Just for fun, I have an old Braggins price list tucked in my 
Grandmother's copy of Maidment. The finest linen thread listed is Knox's 
Falcon linen thread white no. 160. Anyone fancy guessing the price?


3/11d per 1/4 oz skein.

(If I remember pre-decimal correctly, that is 3 shillings and 11 pence, 
say 20 pence in modern money)


Such an interesting conversation. Thank you.

Best wishes,
Jane

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RE: [lace] Re: Demise of Fine Linen Lace, was Faery Lace

2018-08-31 Thread Lorelei Halley
Back in the 1980s there was a brief period when linen thread in 140/2 and
120/2 was available, but only for a few years. It has since disappeared.
Since 1980, when I started lace making, there hasn't been anything finer,
thinner. I don't know what the finest size threads were available for
antique laces.
Lorelei

Subject: Re: [lace] Re: Demise of Fine Linen Lace, was Faery Lace

I have heard of old Mechlin being made with 240/2 linen thread.
Liz R, Raleigh NC

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Re: [lace] Re: Demise of Fine Linen Lace, was Faery Lace

2018-08-31 Thread Lbuyred
I have heard of old Mechlin being made with 240/2 linen thread.
Liz R, Raleigh NC

> Can anyone be more specific? What do you mean by "fine linen thread"?
> 

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Re: [lace] Re: Demise of Fine Linen Lace, was Faery Lace

2018-08-31 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi Jane,

Some of the pieces I have are made with linen thread as fine or finer than
180 cotton. The thread in one lappet is so fine that it is hard to see in
the cloth-stitch areas that it's made of thread at all.

I will try to upload a photo to Arachne on Flickr when I get home.

Nancy
Connecticut, USA

On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 12:41 PM, Jane  wrote:

> Can anyone be more specific? What do you mean by "fine linen thread"?
>
>

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[lace] Re: Demise of Fine Linen Lace, was Faery Lace

2018-08-31 Thread Jane

Can anyone be more specific? What do you mean by "fine linen thread"?

I ask because lacemakers look at my work and say "isn't that fine!" when 
I'm using 80 cotton. Which isn't fine at all. I would consider a fine 
cotton to be about 160 to 180.


We used to get fine linen thread from Ireland and when that was no 
longer available changed to Swedish Bockens. Campbells Irish linen was 
still available but not in the finer threads.


Yours inquisitively,
Jane
New Forest, UK

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