Sorry to resend this but I accidentally sent it to majordormo rather than the lace list ... I was being cleaver in cropping names out and it went pear shaped.
Kind Regards Liz Baker > On 4 Jan 2014, at 08:02, The Lacebee <thelace...@btinternet.com> wrote: > > This question of working directly from a picture and copyright has come up recently on a Facebook forum and previously in Arachne. It has come as a bit of a surprise to many to find that there are still copyright issues when working directly from a photo > > If the designer of the lace is still alive then then lace is in copyright regardless of where you take your pricking from. Copyright still exists 70 after death. Now with the case of Miss Channer's mat it is not about the original but the variation shown in the book of which the copyright exists to the person that made that version (Or who they passed the copyright onto... In this case it is believed to be the publisher). > > It is interesting that the copyright laws on crafts are different to books. I recently found an excellent link on copyright and crafts which may interest fellow spiders. > > http://drawsketch.about.com/cs/resources/a/copyright_2.htm > > When I was learning to make lace there were a limited number of books in the UK and we were encouraged to go to museums, take rubbings of lace and true up patterns. This was acceptable because the lace was normally over 150 yeas old so it was likely the designer had been dead for there required 50 years at that time (extended to 70 years recently). > > The argument that you only need to change 10% for it to be a new design and not violate copyright is a myth as well. It still violates copyright. > > I had an interesting conversation with another lacemaker a couple of years ago. She had gone to a summer school at a French lace school. She was not allowed to take her pillow out of the classroom at night as she was only 'renting' the pricking from the teacher and as it was the teachers own design, the teacher insisted that the lace be finished by the end of the week classes or it had to be taken off, unfinished and the pattern returned. They were paying the teacher to be taught and not buying the pattern. The lacemaker offered to buy the pattern and was told it was not for sale. > > Recently on Ravelry I have seen a trend where there is a statement on the pages showing patterns for sale. The statement says very, very clearly that the pattern is sold for personal use only and items made from it cannot be sold without violating international copyright. > > When it comes down to it, as we have said before, it is a matter of both legal and moral issues. > > Kind Regards > > Liz Baker > >> On 4 Jan 2014, at 00:26, Louise in Central Virginia <humem...@verizon.net> wrote: >> >> >> On 01/03/14, Louise in Central Virginia wrote: >> I have Ruth Bean's book on Ms Chandler and resolved that if I every decided to try the Mat, I would just scan the picture of it in the book, enlarge to size and work directly on the picture as a pricking. I think That would work for me and no problem with copywrites. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
