Re: [Langcom] Approval of Luri Wikipedia

languages, people are the resources and they only maintainer code, the unified codes that the world uses. Is there any confirmation of Luri Wikipedia yet? On 4/25/2015 10:31 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, Ethnologue is the maintainer of the ISO-639-3. As such they are an authority. Thanks

Re: [Langcom] Approval of Luri Wikipedia

Hoi, Do we have confirmation that it is indeed Luri ? Thanks, Gerard On 24 April 2015 at 20:42, Mjbmr mjb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I ask langcom members for approval of Luri Wikipedia, here are some top articles I could list, but there are more of them 1. استیو جابز

Re: [Langcom] Azeri Latin vs. Arabic

Hoi, The code az is fpr a macro language. There are two languages North and South Azerbaijani. North Azerbaijani is written in several scripts according to Ethnologue. To the point where it was only written in the Arab script until the 1920's Having it in the Latin script which is official in

Re: [Langcom] Azeri Latin vs. Arabic

anyone's roots; Azeri of all varieties has been written in the Arabic script longer than the Latin script. So yes, I support creating azb. Antony Green On 2015-05-02 21:01, Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, The code az is fpr a macro language. There are two languages North and South Azerbaijani

Re: [Langcom] Azeri Latin vs. Arabic

made their choice our policy does deny them the az,wikipedia because effectively it is a new one., Az is a macro language code so it is not available. Thanks, GerardM On 3 May 2015 at 19:41, Michael Everson ever...@evertype.com wrote: On 3 May 2015, at 07:14, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs

Re: [Langcom] Azeri Latin vs. Arabic

a constructive proposal asap so that LangCom will not be accused again to delay urgent matters. Thanks. Oliver On 08-May-15 8:08 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, A blanket statements means that I do not put a date on it. So I am dead against without clarification what the az wikipedia wants. Not having

Re: [Langcom] Azeri Latin vs. Arabic

Michael, I am sorry but you can take a hike. Thanks, GerardM On 9 May 2015 at 15:17, Michael Everson ever...@evertype.com wrote: On 9 May 2015, at 14:02, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, I have stated that I am pursuing some things. Do not push me. I am getting

Re: [Langcom] Fwd: Request for Membership

Hoi, Given the low level of activity and the stalemate about certain topics why not. Thanks, GerardM On 16 April 2015 at 08:22, Santhosh Thottingal santhosh.thottin...@gmail.com wrote: Forwarded Message Subject:Request for Membership Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015

Re: [Langcom] Konkani in Latin, too?

Hoi, For Konkani we know that a language organisation is willing to work hard on content, localisation etc. I asked at the time to waive the restriction on their word. The possible sanction to remove all the content in a set period of time to have all requirements implemented was not enough for

Re: [Langcom] Kurdish Dialects

Hoi, Ku is from before the start of the language committee. Nowadays, it would not be accepted. In this it is similar to No (Norwegian) Thanks, GerardM On 30 June 2015 at 00:47, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote: I am the moderator who put Mjbmr on moderation, based on inflammatory

[Langcom] Languages that are Arabic

Hoi, At the time we accepted Egyptian, there was quite some ruckus because it was considered politically incorrect to accept this. Now that we have a request for Algerian Arabic, it is prudent to ask what our position is. I am all in favour by the way.. Thanks, Gerard

Re: [Langcom] a language code for Simple English

Hoi, Linguistically it is the same language. There is no reason why it needs to be a different code. The standard allows for a code that is different. The code en-simple is not in conformance with the standard. Thanks, GerardM On 25 August 2015 at 18:35, Amir E. Aharoni

Re: [Langcom] Circassian Wikipedia - suggested approval

Hoi, I seriously think that we should not wait. Why not have some seasonal cheer? Thanks, Gerard On 1 December 2015 at 23:38, MF-Warburg wrote: > About activity: < >

Re: [Langcom] Circassian Wikipedia - suggested approval

ecutive months of activity" - can't find the > document but it's in a policy which was drawn up between Milos Rancic and > Gerard Meijssen several years ago. Should be findable at the LangCom > subpage of Wikimedia. > > -OS > > > On 14-Dec-15 4:09 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:

Re: [Langcom] Language Subtag Registration

Hoi, Thank you Gerard On 28 October 2015 at 19:10, Michael Everson wrote: > LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM > > 1. Name of requester: Michael Everson > 2. E-mail address of requester: everson @ evertype.com > 3. Record Requested: > > Type: variant > Subtag:

Re: [Langcom] Ka.wikisource

d say something like "After > > the first project created, community can get Wikisource at any point > > of time." -- or whatever appropriate. > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Gerard Meijssen > > <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote: > &g

Re: [Langcom] Circassian Wikipedia - suggested approval

Hoi, Yes please. Thanks, GerardM On 30 November 2015 at 22:57, Asaf Bartov wrote: > (Lexical clarification: when Thawcho writes he has read some "Wikipedia > values", he means "Wikipedia articles". The two phrases are homonymous in > Hebrew.) > >A. > On Nov 30,

Re: [Langcom] Ka.wikisource

Hoi, The right mailing list is the mailing list of the language committee. All its members are subscribed to that one. Thanks, GerardM On 30 November 2015 at 14:14, Milos Rancic wrote: > On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 1:08 PM, MF-Warburg > wrote: > >>

Re: [Langcom] Ka.wikisource

Nov 30, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Gerard Meijssen < > gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hoi, >> The right mailing list is the mailing list of the language committee. All >> its members are subscribed to that one. >> Thanks, >> GerardM >> >&

[Langcom] First principles

Hoi, The language policy allows us to be flexible with how we interpret the rules. My experience is that we are not using this flexibility. I made several proposals over te last few years and they have all been torpedoed. ASL is the latest example of this. It makes sense to allow for one

Re: [Langcom] First principles

Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי > http://aharoni.wordpress.com > ‪“We're living in pieces, > I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ > > 2016-05-31 0:18 GMT-07:00 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>: > >> Hoi, >> >> The language policy allows u

Re: [Langcom] First principles

by the SignWriting Foundation. There is no chance that it will be abandoned and it is imho enough reason to allow for it to be created at this time. Thanks, GerardM On 31 May 2016 at 15:40, Michael Everson <ever...@evertype.com> wrote: > On 31 May 2016, at 08:18, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs.

Re: [Langcom] Mongolian Wikipedia written in Mongolian script

Hoi, mo is a catch all and includes all the ISO-639-3 codes. Our policy has been that the community may decide on this. Thanks, GerardM On 16 January 2016 at 18:36, Milos Rancic <mill...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 6:28 PM, Gerard Meijssen > <gerard.meijs...@g

Re: [Langcom] Mongolian Wikipedia written in Mongolian script

Could we agree on that? > > Oliver > > > On 16-Jan-16 10:48 PM, Michael Everson wrote: > >> On 16 Jan 2016, at 17:28, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Why have a Wikipedia where the only difference is a different script

Re: [Langcom] Mongolian Wikipedia written in Mongolian script

Hoi, Why have a Wikipedia where the only difference is a different script? So far we did not accept that. Thanks, GerardM On 16 January 2016 at 00:10, MF-Warburg wrote: > Agreed, it seems sensible to make >

Re: [Langcom] Wikiversity Simple English

Hoi, I totally agree. Thanks, GerardM On 5 February 2016 at 16:59, MF-Warburg wrote: > There is a proposal at < > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikiversity_Simple_English > > > > IMHO, this needs to be rejected, as "Simple English

Re: [Langcom] Third Article in Tunisian SL on Wikipedia

Hoi, When the Tunesians want a signwriting Wikipedia, it is eligible to have one. This means that it is in the other requirements for finally having one. For American Sign Language, there is a requirement of a minimal number of articles and a sustained interest. Given the special nature, the last

Re: [Langcom] Mentioning of "revived" languages in the Language Proposal Policy

Hoi, The language committee has always had the ability to do as it sees fit. All it takes is consent from all members. There is not much need to change the rules because there is an inherent ability to bend the rules. Thanks, GerardM On 27 January 2016 at 00:06, MF-Warburg

Re: [Langcom] Mongolian Wikipedia written in Mongolian script

i is on a >> separate site somewhere. But this, again, is a technicality, not a blocker. >> >> >> -- >> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי >> http://aharoni.wordpress.com >> ‪“We're living in pieces, >> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moo

Re: [Langcom] Luri Wikipedia

Hoi, Amir, I would be really happy to have an academic knowledgeable about Luri to give his opinion. It is distressing to learn that a Wiki may not be read because of the insistence of editors on a script that is not legible. I understand Oliver's argument however I doubt that Luri is unique to

Re: [Langcom] Eligibility, Verification and Approval of Livvi-Karelian Wikipedia

Hoi, No problem. Thanks, GerardM On 26 February 2016 at 01:11, MF-Warburg wrote: > Hi all, > > I would like to propose the approval of Livvi-Karelian Wikipedia (Meta > request: [1]). > The test-project is active with several (at least 7!) different active > users

Re: [Langcom] Jamaican

Hoi, The question is not only if it is eligible ... we agree that it is. The question is what needs to be done to reach the final stage. Thanks, GerardM On 21 April 2016 at 20:12, Antony Green wrote: > I agree, it's eligible. > > > Am 2016-04-21 um 15:13 schrieb Michael

Re: [Langcom] Jamaican

ed to find another expert. > > I'd be liberal and say Yes, let's approve. > > > -- > Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי > http://aharoni.wordpress.com > ‪“We're living in pieces, > I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ > > 2016-04-25 14:09 GMT+03:00 Ge

Re: [Langcom] Jamaican

Hoi, So we agree that it may move forward ? Thanks, GerardM On 26 April 2016 at 10:36, Oliver Stegen wrote: > Great - thanks, Michael (also to your translator)! > > Who is going to inform those responsible for and with the ability of > turning the incubator wikipedia

Re: [Langcom] ASL

people will start writing ASL and focus it on Wikipedia. All reasons why we should. Thanks, GerardM On 24 May 2016 at 15:16, MF-Warburg <mfwarb...@googlemail.com> wrote: > I take it you didn't read my mail. > Am 24.05.2016 14:23 schrieb "Gerard Meijssen" <

[Langcom] Jamaican

Hoi, I have been told that the Jamaican languages is doing rather well. What is its status? Thanks, GerardM ___ Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom

Re: [Langcom] Lingua Franca Nova

> > 2017-02-02 12:34 GMT+01:00 Oliver Stegen <oliver_ste...@sil.org>: > > Hi, > I found Jan's exposition most helpful and actually convincing - thanks! > > In response, I am no longer opposed to make lfn eligible. Go ahead! (And > may it thrive.) > > Oliver > &

Re: [Langcom] Dinka

Hoi, I think this may be an exception to the rule that we do not accept macro languages. This does not serve as a precedent. The rules stands and without several strong arguments it would not even be considered Thanks, GerardM On 3 February 2017 at 15:36, Oliver Stegen

Re: [Langcom] Proposal for eligible status for Wikipedia in Cora

Hoi, I am quite happy when someone argue their case. I will certainly listen. In the past there were Americans who said to support languages from Papua New Guinea. Their arguments is why we ask for native speakers. The good thing of this policy is that we can do differently when the situation fits

Re: [Langcom] Lingua Franca Nova

se, but still, even at the very start this Wikipedia would be at a > higher level than those in Interlingue, Novial, Volapük and Lojban. Not > only in terms of numbers, but also in terms of substance and quality. So > why not give it a chance? > > Best regards, > Jan van Steenberge

Re: [Langcom] Punjabi Wikisource

Hoi, I do approve, Thanks, GerardM On 6 February 2017 at 13:02, wrote: > Yes Milos, > > I think everything is on the right path now and I will propose for > aporoval soon. > > Regards > Satdeep Gill > > > > > On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 5:06 PM +0530, "Milos Rancic"

Re: [Langcom] Lingua Franca Nova

> > In other words, all kinds of possibilities. My guess is that in the case > of grc it will be Attic Greek for 99%, but if there will be a few articles > in Doric or Koine, then I'd say that would be an enrichment. > > Cheers, > Jan > > 2017-02-02 21:52 GMT+01:00 Gerard Meij

Re: [Langcom] Membership request (WAS: Ancient Greek)

Hoi, As it is we have a policy whereby anyone can say "no" and it is no. We have a mailing list where anyone can write to and arguments are heard. So effectively you are part of what we do. The language committee was created to say "no". This has proven to be effective. From the later projects

Re: [Langcom] Proposal for Wikipedia in Bandjalang

Hoi, For me when a body like a chapter or a reputable organisation says that they will support a project it means for me that we should not insist on the Incubator as much as we do. Thanks, GerardM On 6 February 2017 at 14:22, Gnangarra wrote: > sorry folks ahs

Re: [Langcom] What is the smallest community that can support a wikipedia?

Hoi, What is the purpose of answering that question when it makes no difference in the way we work. Why would we consider it, what is the point. Asking for academic reasons? The reason why we have a language policy is to prevent the random creation of new projects. It is a blunt instrument in the

Re: [Langcom] What is the smallest community that can support a wikipedia?

wrote: > On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Gerard Meijssen > <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote: > > What is the purpose of answering that question when it makes no > difference > > in the way we work. Why would we consider it, what is the point. Asking > for > > academi

Re: [Langcom] "doing" / "Verification ongoing"

Hoi, The two week period is for when we inform the board that we have come to a conclusion and that they may object within the two week time frame. When someone of the committee objects, it is a no. Thanks, GerardM On 25 January 2017 at 21:39, Milos Rancic wrote: > No,

Re: [Langcom] Proposal for "on hold" status for [Wikipedia in] Bahraini Arabic

Hoi, The problem with Arabic languages is that in the past they were denied by the board. Thanks, GerardM On 29 January 2017 at 05:56, Milos Rancic wrote: > Just to say that I will wait for at least 8 days till the conclusion > of the requests. Also, in relation to the

Re: [Langcom] Proposal for eligible status for Wikipedia in Cora

Hoi, A native speaker has always been one of the considerations for making things eligible. Thanks, Gerard On 26 January 2017 at 23:54, MF-Warburg wrote: > If we set Buhid with 8000 speakers on hold, should we do that here as well? > The proposer does not seem to

Re: [Langcom] Proposal for eligible status for Wikipedia in Cora

Hoi, It is important to keep this because there should not be hope without native speakers. Thanks, GerardM On 29 January 2017 at 09:28, Milos Rancic <mill...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Gerard Meijssen > <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote: > &

Re: [Langcom] Bulk rejections

Hoi, Thanks GerardM Op zo 29 jan. 2017 om 09:46 schreef Milos Rancic > I've rejected a number of requests, to make the future tasks a little > bit simpler. > > Here are the rejected requests per category: > > == Extinct proto languages == > > 1. Galician-Portugese [1] > 2.

Re: [Langcom] [Mediawiki-i18n] ISO 639-3 annual changes

Hoi, Karen good to see you back in action :) Thanks, Gerard On 16 February 2017 at 05:20, Karen Broome wrote: > Hello, > > I know you haven’t heard from me in awhile and I hope this e-mail is > recognized by the list. > > I was the original registrant of the ISO

Re: [Langcom] Request for Wikipedia in Wolaytta eligible

Hoi, There is no problem with eligibility. It is the other stuff that is needed to get us to the phase for a new Wikipedia. Thanks, GerardM On 9 February 2017 at 21:13, Oliver Stegen wrote: > I've made the request [1] for a wikipedia in Wolaytta [2] eligible. It's >

Re: [Langcom] Approval of Khowar Wikipedia

mill...@gmail.com>: > > I think there is no need to search for independent verification under > these circumstances. > > The project should be marked as approved tomorrow and we should > proceed with sending bug request and other necessary steps. > > On Sun, Feb 12, 201

Re: [Langcom] Approval of Khowar Wikipedia

Hoi, For your amusement .. I checked it out; there is more than one article for him.. :) Thanks, GerardM https://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?=3240863 On 11 February 2017 at 06:22, wrote: > I have emailed a linguist as well. > > Just for information, I would like

Re: [Langcom] Approval of Khowar Wikipedia

The project should be marked as approved tomorrow and we should > proceed with sending bug request and other necessary steps. > > On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 8:34 AM, Gerard Meijssen > <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hoi, > > For your amusement .. I checked it o

Re: [Langcom] Membership changes

sions regularly and appreciate > having access to observe. > > Thank you for having me still being an observer. Let me know if you'd like > to see observers such as myself being more active in feedback! Cheers! > > Best, > Alolita > > > > On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 10:35 A

Re: [Langcom] Request for Wikipedia in Wolaytta eligible

edia content, > and Wolaytta which *also* has a language development association who, by > contrast, does not seem to know about wikipedia. I have contacted them on > FB ... will see what happens ... > > Oliver > > On 09-Feb-17 21:20, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > > Hoi, > There is no

Re: [Langcom] Governance changes

Hoi, There are too many issues in this. I am not in favour with so much under consideration to be dealt with in this way. One issue at a time please. Thanks, GerardM On 9 February 2017 at 15:30, Milos Rancic wrote: > Based on the input from the previous couple of days,

Re: [Langcom] New Guinea languages (WAS: Membership changes)

Hoi, We know you and respect you. When your connections help us gain access to PNG specialists it is EXACTLY the bias we are seeking by your being a member :) Thanks, GerardM On 10 February 2017 at 12:08, Oliver Stegen wrote: > In response to the question of New

Re: [Langcom] Voting changes

Hoi, Everything per the previous agreements are fine. So yes, we can have projects when they have a valid ISO-639-3 code. When there is a problem with this, it needs discussion. When someone objects and finds that the arguments are not convincing better arguments need to be found. Eligibility is

Re: [Langcom] Membership changes

Hoi, When we push people out that are not active and replace them with people who add value, I am happy to see this happen. Thanks, GerardM On 9 February 2017 at 17:00, Milos Rancic wrote: > One issue: membership. > > == Membership == > > * Accepting any new member would

Re: [Langcom] Facebook page

; > Regards > Satdeep Gill > > -- > *From:* Langcom <langcom-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org> on behalf of Gerard > Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, February 26, 2017 8:15:01 PM > *To:* Wikimedia Foundation Language C

Re: [Langcom] Facebook page

How can we make sure that we are recognised as being the Language committee ... it is something Facebook offers and has been done for many chapters and groups. Thanks, GerardM On 26 February 2017 at 15:24, Michael Everson wrote: > On 26 Feb 2017, at 13:06, Milos Rancic

Re: [Langcom] Canadian French

here some rule of thumb we could formulate about whether or not > a specific BCP 47 should be allowed for Wikidata? > > 2016-11-23 6:26 GMT+01:00 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>: > >> Hoi, >> Yes. But the point is that our position has always been tha

Re: [Langcom] Canadian French

Hoi, We have done that. When a language has an ISO-639-3 it is admissible for Wikidata. Thanks, GerardM On 28 November 2016 at 02:57, Milos Rancic <mill...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Gerard Meijssen > <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote: > &

Re: [Langcom] Canadian French

Hoi, Milos you forget the policy. We have a consensus for the ISO-639-3. We do not have a consensus for the BCP 47. Thanks, GerardM On 29 November 2016 at 17:13, Milos Rancic <mill...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Gerard Meijssen > <gerard.meijs...@g

Re: [Langcom] Canadian French

Hoi, Sorry, we discussed that in the past. Typically every ISO-639-3 is allowed. That is it. Thanks, GerardM On 29 November 2016 at 16:23, Milos Rancic <mill...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 7:50 AM, Gerard Meijssen > <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrot

Re: [Langcom] new member proposal: Danny B.

Hoi, Technically there are the templates and Rheingau relaxed to past activity. That is Something I do not know how to run. Zo yes we neef someone. I know Danny and know hè Can do the job. I am in favour Thanks, GerardM Op ma 5 dec. 2016 om 22:40 schreef MF-Warburg >

Re: [Langcom] Canadian French

Hoi, I am sorry but when people want to localise Klingon in the Klingon script they are welcome to it. This has nothing to do with the language policy. It is up to the people at translatewiki.net to decide on that. In the past their requirement for Klingon was that it had to use the Klingon

Re: [Langcom] announcements about new features related to language

Hoi, This is awesome. PS is there a writeup on the Berlin meetup ? Thanks, GerardM On 5 April 2017 at 09:19, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > Hi, > > In the Langcom meeting in Berlin one issue was mentioned several times: > The committee members are interested in

Re: [Langcom] Beta Wikiversity

Hoi, Magnus just blogged about using questions based on Wikidata information... I do not know the Quiz extension. How do the two compare. Thanks, GerardM http://blog.magnusmanske.de/?p=446 On 17 April 2017 at 14:06, Vito Genovese wrote: > One small concern: Would we

Re: [Langcom] [Ticket#2017040610010395] Language committee internal rules change

Hoi, This is great. So we are in a good shape to move from only an access program to new projects to something more. It would help when the notes from the Berlin meeting are published; it allows me and others who were not there understand the thinking at that time. Thanks, GerardM On 20

Re: [Langcom] Beta Wikiversity

Hoi, At that I am on the record that the language committee should ease up on the creation of new Wikisources particularly when there is institutional support for a Wikisource in a language. When the Board has approved new rules for our committee I want it to be discussed again. Thanks,

Re: [Langcom] [Wikidata] Languages in Wikidata4Wiktionary

Hoi, There are many valid possibilities to describe something that is not a language and language used may represent a language that does not have a language code. There is a standard for indicating languages; it allows for something like "US-American Spanish" by combining a country and a language

Re: [Langcom] Approval of Fiji Hindi Wiktionary

Hoi, to what extend have the other messages been translated? I am not a fan of Wiktionary, it does not make sense with Wikidata including this functionality. Thanks, GerardM On 29 July 2017 at 17:48, MF-Warburg wrote: > Hello. I propose that we approve the

Re: [Langcom] [Approval] of Hindi Wikivoyage

>>>> >>>>> Please check the MediaWiki interface translations for Hindi language >>>>> now: >>>>> >>>>> https://tools.wmflabs.org/robin/?tool=codelookup=hi >>>>> >>>>> It says 100% completed now. >&g

Re: [Langcom] Proposal to reject li.wikibooks closing proposal

Hoi, Indeed, rejection is appropriate. Deletion is only for projects with no activity or serious considerations like the Siberian in the past. Thanks, GerardM On 21 July 2017 at 03:15, MF-Warburg wrote: > (last mail for today) > > I propose to reject

Re: [Langcom] Current open requests for Project Closures

Hoi, To be honest, it is not the task of the language committee to kill of projects. At best we may "recommend". At that we strongly urge the Wikimedia Foundation to rename a few projects that are incorrectly named. This does not happen as it does not have the needed priority. Also, there are

Re: [Langcom] Current open requests for Project Closures

On 1 July 2017 at 05:13, Samuel Klein <meta...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Gerard Meijssen < > gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hoi, >> To be honest, it is not the task of the language committee to kill of >> projects. At best

Re: [Langcom] Current open requests for Project Closures

>>> I have hereby closed the more than four years old BetaWikiversity >>> merging proposal on procedural grounds. As I wrote there < >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_proje >>> cts/Move_Beta_Wikiversity_to_Incubator> a new one can be ope

Re: [Langcom] Voting changes

Hoi, In the case of macro languages and BCP 47 codes there is a need for a two third majority. The first is something that should be prevented as much as possible because it prevents projects that are part of the macro language. For the BCP 47 there should be a real linguistic point in having them

Re: [Langcom] Hindi Wikiversity should not be created

Hoi, Yes, that is the politically correct answer. The question asked by several is what is Wikiversity good for. Is it actually used? Thanks, GerardM On 4 July 2017 at 18:06, Satdeep Gill wrote: > I do think that the community will improve content as the time

Re: [Langcom] Voting changes

t; Gerard, > > We do not have any top-level BCP 47 tags. > > Wikimedia is already using BCP 47 subtags without any trouble. > > > On 4 Jul 2017, at 15:16, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Hoi, > > In the case of macro lan

Re: [Langcom] Macrolanguage projects

Hoi, When this case cannot be made convincingly, we have a situation. When a macro language code is proposed it is no longer abstract and as a rule it is a bad thing to allow for macro languages. When it is needed I want the argument to be really convincing. Thanks, GerardM On 5 July 2017

Re: [Langcom] Fwd: Starting a Dinka Wikipedia

Hoi, I am happy to see this happen given the urgency. Thanks, GerardM Op wo 26 apr. 2017 om 14:38 schreef Amir E. Aharoni < amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> > Hi, > > See the forwarded email from Prof. John Myhill, who is trying to set up a > Dinka Wikipedia. > > Dinka is a language spoken

Re: [Langcom] Coptic - eligible?

so in >> favour of localization. >> >> +1 >> >> Oliver >> >> On 21-Jul-17 14:19, Gerard Meijssen wrote: >> >> Hoi, >> I am all in favour of having a Wikisource to start off with. When they >> have reasonable activity and a substant

Re: [Langcom] Notes from the Berlin meeting

On 17 May 2017 at 21:05, Milos Rancic wrote: > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 8:42 PM, Michael Everson > wrote: > > On 17 May 2017, at 17:13, Milos Rancic wrote: > > > >> Because SIL is at least sensible enough to have the policy to change

Re: [Langcom] Voting changes

Hoi, No as far as I am concerned the conversation has soured. I prefer for us to take stock and not rush on. Thanks, GerardM On 17 May 2017 at 23:08, Milos Rancic wrote: > We could do that. MF-Warburg could put the proposal on wiki, so we > could discuss and comment

Re: [Langcom] Proposal for fast approval policy amendment

Hoi, I am not in any particular rush to continue this conversation. The way Milos has rubbed everybody and did not stop and did go on is problematic. For me the whole idea of a language foundation is something not to be desired when it expresses this kind of unworkable radicalism. So let us stall

Re: [Langcom] [Approval] of Hindi Wikivoyage

t;https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Punjabi_Wikimedians> >>> Treasurer, Affiliations Committee >>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee> >>> Member, Language Committee >>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_committee> &

Re: [Langcom] Proposed short-to-mid-term solution for Mapudungun/Mapuche

2017 at 17:41, Milos Rancic <mill...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 5:37 PM, Gerard Meijssen > <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The ISO-639-3 code is a requirement to eligibility. Because of historic > > reasons we have a few codes that d

Re: [Langcom] Proposed short-to-mid-term solution for Mapudungun/Mapuche

Hoi, The ISO-639-3 code is a requirement to eligibility. Because of historic reasons we have a few codes that do not comply with the code.One of the reasons for the language committee was to prevent such things from happening again. When we accept codes that do not signify an existing language,

Re: [Langcom] Wikisource Tajik

Hoi, It is because there is already a Tajik Wikisource. Thanks, GerardM On 27 May 2017 at 18:18, Antony Green wrote: > I'm marking Tajik Wikisource [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wi > ki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikisource_Tajik] eligible as well; it > seems

Re: [Langcom] Proposed short-to-mid-term solution for Mapudungun/Mapuche

Hoi, There is no point of having a project in the incubator that will not be published as a Wikipedia because it is highly unlikely that we will get consensus or a qualified majority for such a thing. It is not honest nor fair to raise expectations that we will not fulfil. Thanks, GerardM On

[Langcom] Language codes

Hoi, There is a flood of incoming language codes for monolingual codes in Wikidata. The scenario that is unfolding is similar as it was in the beginning of Wikipedia. A few people that request a flood of codes without any real need. The result has been a chaos that has still not been resolved.

Re: [Langcom] Dutch Wikinews

Hoi, Ok. Thanks, GerardM On 13 June 2017 at 04:54, MF-Warburg wrote: > Just to be very German and formally correct, I hereby make the formal > proposal to approve the reopening of Dutch Wikinews. > [Its closure was an idiotic idea in the first place.] > The

Re: [Langcom] Voting changes

-19 3:32 GMT+02:00 Michael Everson <ever...@evertype.com>: > >> I agree with Gerard. A primary code in BPC 47 would be a rarity, and not >> something to be adopted here without a proper vote. >> >> Michael Everson >> >> On 19 May 2017, at 01:24, Gerar

Re: [Langcom] [Approval] of Hindi Wikivoyage

ikimedia project in your > language already exists and these messages have already been translated, we > ask that you show evidence that localisation is continuing to be improved > and maintained at a reasonable pace.“ > > Am 06.05.2017 5:03 nachm. schrieb "Gerard Meijssen&quo

Re: [Langcom] Request for closure of Nahuatl Wikipedia

Hoi, Halleluja !! Thanks, GerardM On 17 October 2017 at 13:43, Michael Everson wrote: > If a non-native speaker is screwing up wikipedias, he should not be > allowed to continue. > > On 17 Oct 2017, at 07:57, Maor Malul wrote: > > > > I'm more than

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