Re: [Langcom] Back to 2012: Wikiquote and Wikivoyage requests

I think a larger question is that should wikiquote be given same exempt to the condition of whether the language is living when it come to eligibility like wikisource? 在 2018年5月9日週三 13:25，Gerard Meijssen 寫道： > Hoi, > A comparison with Ancient Greek does not serve as a

Re: [Langcom] Now that Montenegrin's ISO 639-3 code has been published by SIL ...

How can one prove that the language is sufficiently different that reader cannot use the other wiki? There were already some lingulistic evidence being sent onto the mailing list previously but seems like that is not considered enough to prove sufficient uniqueness? If I understand correctly,

Re: [Langcom] Final group of projects with requests lingering since 2010

2018年1月25日 03:49 於 "MF-Warburg" 寫道： > > Well, but it's equally true (and written) that "If there is no valid ISO 639 code, you must obtain one. The Wikimedia Foundation does not seek to develop new linguistic entities". My understanding on the description of "does not

Re: [Langcom] Final group of projects with requests lingering since 2010

3nGXg91eso505NBxZniVIv0ug%3D=0 > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > langcom-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > langcom-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Su

Re: [Langcom] Eligibility of Pinyin Wikipedia

As part of the discussion, someone asked where can one obtain archived xml file for other deleted incubators. ___ Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom

Re: [Langcom] Eligibility of Pinyin Wikipedia

> if you would be so kind, please flag any pages in the Incubator test that do *not *appear to have a directly corresponding page in zhwiki. (You can also flag pages that obviously include content that differs from the content on zhwiki.) Once this discussion closes, I will then feel comfortable

Re: [Langcom] Status of Requests for New Languages dated to 2012 or earlier

> >- Wikipedia Pinyin (from my July 30 message): The test running on >Incubator (under the ISO 639-3 code for Mandarin) has about 250 pages. As >I said in that message, there are arguments on both sides. Would people >please look again at that and provide some input? You can do

Re: [Langcom] Wikipedia requests from 2012 (second set)

I am going to address some points about the Pinyin Chinese proposal in this nail that I didn't address in the previous one: Wikipedia Pinyin Chinese > > (coded for now as cmn, Mandarin Chinese): Here's a

Re: [Langcom] Wikipedia requests from 2012 (second set)

在 2018年8月30日週四 00:50，Nicolas VIGNERON 寫道： > > Le mer. 29 août 2018 à 17:56, C. Scott Ananian a > écrit : > >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018, 11:39 AM Michael Everson >> wrote: >> >>> On 21 Aug 2018, at 17:46, Phake Nick wrote: >>> > >>>

Re: [Langcom] Wikipedia requests from 2012 (first set)

At 2018-7-17 Tue 01:59, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > Prusian is imho not eligible, there are no native speakers. There is > little reason to believe that it is in a category similar to Ancient Greek. > > For the rest it is fine. > Thanks, > GerardM > For languages under revitalization

Re: [Langcom] Final group of projects with requests lingering since 2010

2018年1月23日 00:27 於 "Steven White" 寫道： > > Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Teochew: Currently on hold due to no ISO code. Code was rejected at SIL in 2009. At the time, SIL expressed some sympathy for the idea of retiring "nan" and splitting it. But as the code request

Re: [Langcom] Final group of projects with requests lingering since 2010

I would like to retract the attached email as it seems like there are actually no current request for a code for Hainanese that I was mixing something else up with it 2018-01-30 TUE Phake Nick <c933...@gmail.com> wrote: > One thing to consider: > - In the previous code applicatio

Re: [Langcom] Current "other" requests

For Literary Chinese Wikisource proposal, it should be noted that out of almost three hundred thousand documents currently hosted on Chinese wikisource, most of them are actually lzh documents (like I tried to click "random document" button there for ten consecutive times and all ten times the

Re: [Langcom] Requests for new languages: Wikisource Literary Chinese

>We take "zhwikisource" to be defined as potentially pertaining to the entire macrolanguage, and on those grounds reject this request. This position could impact the establishment of other Chinese languages wikisource in the future, especially those that doesn't use Han characters, or those that

Re: [Langcom] Unicode requirement

Gerard Meijssen 於 2019年4月15日週一 下午1:28寫道： > > Hoi, > The WMF does have the technology to provide the font from its servers. It is > not the case that characters would not show properly. > Thanks, > GerardM How? The topic have been discussed on Chinese Wikipedia for months last year (See:

Re: [Langcom] Minnan in Chinese characters

Some user from respective region have previously told me that because Simplified Chinese doesn't work for writing Min-nan, the "-Hant" designation is redundant and thus nan-Hani should be sufficient to identify the language/writing of "Min nan in Han script" 在 2020年2月23日週日 18:58，Amir E. Aharoni

Re: [Langcom] Closure of Northern Luri Wikipedia

If it turns out the pages in the Wikipedia are actually content in another language/language variation, then it seems like the proper action is to rename and redirect the wiki. But can this be achieved? 在 2020年10月8日週四 11:15，Amir Sarabadani 寫道： > Two things: > * I have asked a friend who studies

Re: [Langcom] Wikipedia Hanja

On 2021-03-08 Mon 10:38, MF-Warburg wrote: > It seems to me that this should be rejected: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Hanja_2 > > Our dear enwiki says: > "In South Korea, Hanja are used most frequently in ancient literature, > legal documents, and

Re: [Langcom] language code for Multilingual Wikisource

There are always some extinct, endangered, ancient, obscure language with text to be stored on wiki yet might not have enough maintainers to create a separate project for. Unlike Wikipedia or other wiki projects where value of their content are limited to user of those languages, wikisource can

[Langcom] Re: Request to revist Ancient Language policy

But why only "officially"? For many languages, either endangering or newly revitalizing, official use are the least likely ground they would survive. Like gow long it took for Hebrew revitalization movement to gain ground from.being an ancient language to being an official language somewhere?

[Langcom] Re: Request to revist Ancient Language policy

The RFC in past have suffered from fear-mongering by some users on multiple Wikiprojects both internally on sites like Chinese Wikipedia and Chinese Wikisource and then also via some other channels, describing the RFC as a conspiracy to enable the creation of a Literal Chinese Wikisource and to

[Langcom] Classical Chinese Wiktionary

According to the RFC page on "start allowing ancient language", someone mentooned that Classical Chinese Wikipedia is actually developing an entire Wiktionary for Classical Chinese inside Classical Chinese Wikipedia by using slashes to indicate words are subpage of the Wiktionary subproject inside

[Langcom] Re: Ancient Languages: Current Proposals and feedback

Latin is an ancient language but people can and do still invent new terms in Latin and put them into use, see for example biological species name, which is full of neologism in Latin. But they're widely accepted and being used around the world. I cannot see how being an anciebt language mean it

[Langcom] Re: Ancient Languages: Current Proposals and feedback

eady existed. The fact that some people write new poems or essays in > Classical Chinese does not alter the fact that it is a dead language, it is > not eligible for a Wikipedia. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 14:13, Phake Nick wrote: >> >> Latin is

[Langcom] Re: Ancient Languages: Current Proposals and feedback

age as used today. There > are many Arabic languages recognised in ISO-639-3, they are what is spoken > and written today. The language and the concepts of the Arabic of the > Quran is well defined and is static. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 15:25, Pha